RetroGamingUK
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#1 EA Sports FC 25
Is that how big soccer is in America now?
Is that how big soccer is in America now?
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Circana September 2024: #1 EA FC 25 #2 Astro Bot #4 Zelda Echoes of Wisdom #7 NBA ; PS5 #1 Units + Rev
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Mr.Phoenix
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Or, the third option, console sales are declining because four years into the console's life, it has not had a price drop. It's actually more expensive today than it was at launch. I don't know why people keep ignoring or forgetting this fact.
Again, we are comparing YOY data to a month with a major special edition PS5 console.
RetroGamingUK
Member
Nice legs on Astro.
Pretty good butt, too.
Really happy to see this, hopefully word of mouth will carry it
#2 is great!
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RetroGamingUK
Member
My guess is once the GTA6 bump cools down they’ll drop the price
yazenov
Gold Member
And it will drop like a rock next month given the bad reception and word of mouth. Flop wars.
Punished Miku
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Sure, could be that too. But then we have to also realize that this is the new normal. They're not really expected to drop anytime in the future. I'm not ignoring that. I said people could be potentially transitioning away from consoles regardless of what is ported. That's what most analysts have been saying about Gen Z for a while. Price is potentially a part of that. If that's true, price will be a factor going forward as well. It's not going to improve.
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James Sawyer Ford
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Except PC share is down too, more than consoles, so that marching order narrative is false
Why would price sensitive consumers move to PC where the expenses have gone up even more?
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Revenue is not units, plus Sony had Spidey bundle a year ago iirc.
Typical gap month, especially with Pro and Switch 2 on the horizon.
Also very happy for Astro.
Typical gap month, especially with Pro and Switch 2 on the horizon.
Also very happy for Astro.
Spitfire098
Member
Damn people really picking up xboxes in droves in anticipation for COD...
SweetTooth
Gold Member
PS5#1
PSPortal is massive success
Astro doing great
All good in this world
PSPortal is massive success
Astro doing great
All good in this world
DeepEnigma
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Daneel Elijah
Member
I think that this is the first time that we got a confirmation of lifetime Series S/X split? 51% now probably means that the Series S is selling less this year. Curious to see the split this holiday season. Hardware is down but Sony and Nintendo have excuses for it, or don't care that much. I hope that next year is better for them.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Number 1 against a dead platform and one that is 8 years old and a 45% drop in hardware sales!
It's time to CELEBRATE!!!!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's not hardware sales, it's spend. Which has been easily explained with context and nuance. The unit sales are still healthy.Number 1 against a dead platform and one that is 8 years old and a 45% drop in hardware sales!
It's time to CELEBRATE!!!!
twilo99
Gold Member
Not really surprising.
The console market is currently being carried mostly by millennials, and this should continue for maybe another decade, and after that… I think it’s GG since gen z don’t care
owandeseis
Member
Holy fk hardware sales numbers are in the shit, specially compared to other generations, PS5 is doing decently tho, others are RIP, guess the Pro and Switch 2 can't come soon enough because man..
Also what the fuck is Fifa doing on Top 1 lmao, finally you americans understood which is the best sport? Good job, now it's time to realize Formula 1 >>> Nascar
Also what the fuck is Fifa doing on Top 1 lmao, finally you americans understood which is the best sport? Good job, now it's time to realize Formula 1 >>> Nascar
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Next time, I’ll remember not to bunch Sooner’s panties by doing so.
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nowhat
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Kacho
Gold Member
Even as an enthusiast I struggle to justify owning one of these consoles. There's barely any exclusives, performance is trash, gotta pay for online features. PC really is the place to be these days.
leo-j
Member
pa5 had record breaking yoy numbers last year due to the influx of stock that was finally available, it's dropping to normalish numbers now that it's demand is being met. That being said, If ps5 is around 21M YTD 3 percent of that would put the portal around 600k YTD in the US, WW might be over 1 million units sold. Portal has been pretty successful imo, and it's been pretty steady with its sales.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Men_in_Boxes
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#4
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TropicanaTwista
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Holy shit, Astro bot at #2!!
solidus12
Member
They need to get hit hard. Like concord hard to understand their foolishness. And focus on their core audience.
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Bloody Crow of Cainhurst
Neo Member
I was assured by the geniuses on this website that Astro Bot flopped, because Sony didn't announce sales figures. What's the next spin going to be?
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
The analysis on forums is in massive decline.
Some of you are really struggling to keep up with the new industry. It's not just about units sold, especially in a time where manufacturers can't cut prices to push more units.
The focus is on MAU and software sales.
Despite there being no big Starfield level release content spending is only down 3% YOY. That's a very strong result. How is it possible with hardware sales down so much? It's because MAUs deliver sales regardless of what hardware it sells on. Someone subscribing to PS+ or GamePass on PS4 or X1 is paying just as much as someone on PS5 or XBS.
If anything it shows how little impact Starfield had last year.
Neither Sony or Microsoft is interested in destroying operating income simply to push hardware to people who are playing Fortnite and other F2P games. That's just a reality.
I don't know why gamers are so focused in units sold on consoles they already own. These gamers are still playing games, the industry is having a pretty good year and yes GTA6 is going to push many people from the previous generation into this one.
As for cross gen, that's a new reality. The architecture isn't changing, game development spans hardware now. It's been like that in the PC world since forever. There is no such thing as a next generation game, it just comes down to CPU, GPU, and memory.
Some of you are really struggling to keep up with the new industry. It's not just about units sold, especially in a time where manufacturers can't cut prices to push more units.
The focus is on MAU and software sales.
Despite there being no big Starfield level release content spending is only down 3% YOY. That's a very strong result. How is it possible with hardware sales down so much? It's because MAUs deliver sales regardless of what hardware it sells on. Someone subscribing to PS+ or GamePass on PS4 or X1 is paying just as much as someone on PS5 or XBS.
If anything it shows how little impact Starfield had last year.
Neither Sony or Microsoft is interested in destroying operating income simply to push hardware to people who are playing Fortnite and other F2P games. That's just a reality.
I don't know why gamers are so focused in units sold on consoles they already own. These gamers are still playing games, the industry is having a pretty good year and yes GTA6 is going to push many people from the previous generation into this one.
As for cross gen, that's a new reality. The architecture isn't changing, game development spans hardware now. It's been like that in the PC world since forever. There is no such thing as a next generation game, it just comes down to CPU, GPU, and memory.
MisterXDTV
Member
Imagine predicting FIFA to outsell Madden in September even 10 years ago...
Unreal
Keep in mind it's not even a full month for FC:
Release date: September 27
Early Access: September 20
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You got that right. Mainly parsing what words mean, or actually reading beyond the headlines.
Proof: People confusing units sold with spend and the nuance of YoY behind it.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Look at what the kids did at #2 though#4
Esparadrapo
Member
In one week Microsoft will post the results for the third quarter and it's not going to be pretty. My best guess is that hardware will have an around ~60% decline and that's apocalyptic. Playstation and Switch at least have other markets where they are doing somewhat better. Xbox as console is cooked.
RetroGamingUK
Member
They’ll still be able to hide it behind the Activision revenue increase though.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
ahhh, all is well then.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
SweetTooth
Gold Member
a decade of Playstation is more than enough for me, after that they can rest this Iconic brand forever.
But its a deserved rest after 40 years of success, unlike Sega and MS
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Men_in_Boxes
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VanCityGamer
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The big expansion came out this year.
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Yep, I certainly misinterpreted it. Happily take the L on that one!
So the goal was left, but it’s right now!
MisterXDTV
Member
twilo99
Gold Member
a decade of Playstation is more than enough for me, after that they can rest this Iconic brand forever.
But its a deserved rest after 40 years of success, unlike Sega and MS
The PlayStation brand is not going anywhere, but their reliance on “traditional” consoles will certainly change.
owandeseis
Member
You are mixing a huge decline in console Hardware with a very small dip in console + PC + mobile games and suscriptions
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TheDarkPhantom
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Astrobot doing well is all I needed to know, GOTY 
James Sawyer Ford
Member
There’s lots of exclusives, the top GOTY candidates are not on PC, and it’s PC ports that are trash, can’t really see your arguments broski
Owning a console only with just a ps5 pro sounding like a much better deal and that’s basically where I am
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Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
I'm not. I'm using easily obtained data on MAUs and revenue to draw pretty easy analysis of where the market actually is right now.
PC is seeing a decline in revenue. Mobile might be growing slightly, but console is pretty strong given the position of the XBS and Switch ahead of the Switch 2.
We're just in an in between point in the market where there is a reduction in people who want to buy full priced consoles. We'll see how that holds up next year with GTA6 and several major franchises going next-gen only, not to mention a strong slate from Sony. EA FC, Madden, and CoD are probably next gen only next year.
Again, I would love an explanation from people who think there is doom and gloom to explain why MAUs are remaining high if the console market is ACTUALLY in decline.
Kacho
Gold Member
Gen Z and Gen Alpha don't care about consoles so fewer and fewer people will be entering the console space as time goes on. Their favorite streamers are using PCs so that's what they want.
Prime example here:
More and more enthusiasts are building PCs because that's where they can get the best performance and play all the games. You'd think with Xbox going the way of the dodo that they would pick up PlayStation's, but that's not happening. They're moving to PC.
The PS5 Pro appeals to mega PS fans like you who are already invested in the ecosystem and run damage control for PlayStation on enthusiast forums. It's not going to bring in a significant number of new users.