Thunder Monkey
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NPD December 2012 Sales Results [Up2: Xbox 360, All Nintendo Hardware, NSMB Wii U]
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TheNatural
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Anyone have the Gamecube's original launch numbers? I know the market has expanded quite a lot in 10 plus years, but did the Gamecube from launch November 2001 to start of 2002 outsell what the Wii U did? Just wondering.
Those wii u numbers are higher than most home console launches , something else to consider- just how many got shipped by Christmas ? We also know nearly 700k sold in Japan so far , that's 1.6 million with North America. How well did it sell in the UK and Europe ? At least 400k?
Gotta love how this forum will shit on something that sells 2 million units in barely 2 months. The real test is next holiday , price drops , new Xbox , possibly new playstation and a healthy software lineup on the wii u should make for interesting times .
Gotta love how this forum will shit on something that sells 2 million units in barely 2 months. The real test is next holiday , price drops , new Xbox , possibly new playstation and a healthy software lineup on the wii u should make for interesting times .
Wii U, a console available in every single store, not being too far off from a console that was sold out everywhere for months means it's a good number?
Wow! Great analysis there.
I like Iwata but something needs to be done. The 3DS launch was botched and we now have another awful launch. Why is this happening again? Something needs to give as I dont understand how they came to the 5 mil forecast when there are no games being released to help drive HW sales.
Yeah, seriously. The PS2 was still selling around 100k per month when NPD stopped tracking it a couple years ago.
Um.. Miyamoto?
It's going to be rough for new console releases over the next few years. Wii U's performance must be a warning sign for MS and Sony alike.
I don't believe Iwata will be in trouble (GAF being GAF with all the fire him talk) but he'll have a lot to explain towards the investors. I wonder what he will do to bring any momentum regarding the console. A pricedrop would be too soon (no knowledge about about the nextbox price) but it's going to be interesting.
I don't believe Iwata will be in trouble (GAF being GAF with all the fire him talk) but he'll have a lot to explain towards the investors. I wonder what he will do to bring any momentum regarding the console. A pricedrop would be too soon (no knowledge about about the nextbox price) but it's going to be interesting.
Really? Come on, son. You saw that 360 dip too, right?
For all intents and purposes this was a pretty good holiday season for Nintendo...especially from a 3DS standpoint.
FairXchange
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The incentives are only going to get better for these old machines, more discounts, rebates, financing programs, subscription offers, sales, etc, etc, etc. So sales don't tell the whole story when it comes to whether new hardware is incoming, imo.
These companies know that overall the industry is trending downward and games aren't selling like they used to, even mainstays like COD are down.
Time invested in the old hardware is waning for much of the install base, they need new devices for new monetisation opportunities and to stave off new and rising competitors to the living room and other multi-media devices.
New hardware is a must, I know I'm sure as hell ready.
heh, I think Nintendo made quite some money the gen after. They can spend a lot on WiiU, the real problem is that they need some kind of Wii Fit level of sales by a game to bring hw sales
Exterminieren
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65% attach rate is absolutely nothing to be sniffing at for NSMBU.
It's clearly pushing consoles, it's just that nothing else is.
If the original Wii had enough supply it would easily have sold over a million in its first December in the US. Comparing to a heavily supply-constrained number is meaningless if you want to judge the demand for a platform.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Out of curiosity, does this make people who were interested in buying the Wii U, that just hasn't yet, LESS interested in buying one?
Or that people are buying the console and picking up NSMB because there's nothing else.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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A lie.
Call Me Maybe
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The Wii U bombed. End of story.
My impressions:
*Xbox 360, I bow to thee. This is brilliant performance at retail seven friggin years after initial release. Absolutely stunning. I can't wait to see how its successor performs. I mean, we're talking Nintendo in Japan level of domination here.
*3DS is beasting. I cannot believe how well it recovered from the initial stumble. With a great lineup for this year, I want to see how the 3DS does. It also has one of the only two exclusives in the chart, so clearly, it has a healthy software ecosystem as well.
*Wii U is a bomb. I mean, holy shit. We're looking at a Gamecube level flop right here unless Nintendo pulls a 3DS/PS3 and course corrects. Let's see what they have planned at E3 this year. It will need a miracle to recover, and I'm not sure Nintendo has the kind of persistence Sony exhibited with the PS3 and PSP to bring this thing back on track.
*Speaking of Sony: Lol at the lack of Sony numbers on that chart.
My impressions:
*Xbox 360, I bow to thee. This is brilliant performance at retail seven friggin years after initial release. Absolutely stunning. I can't wait to see how its successor performs. I mean, we're talking Nintendo in Japan level of domination here.
*3DS is beasting. I cannot believe how well it recovered from the initial stumble. With a great lineup for this year, I want to see how the 3DS does. It also has one of the only two exclusives in the chart, so clearly, it has a healthy software ecosystem as well.
*Wii U is a bomb. I mean, holy shit. We're looking at a Gamecube level flop right here unless Nintendo pulls a 3DS/PS3 and course corrects. Let's see what they have planned at E3 this year. It will need a miracle to recover, and I'm not sure Nintendo has the kind of persistence Sony exhibited with the PS3 and PSP to bring this thing back on track.
*Speaking of Sony: Lol at the lack of Sony numbers on that chart.
the 3ds next year will have animal crossing, pokemon, mario kart, and two marios. if it doesn't start doing regular 200k-300k (or more) each month after that, nintendo really needs to lower the price of everything (of course they should be doing that anyway).
the wii u will be under 200k next month. it will be under 100k next year at multiple points. i'm guessing under 100k will start in february, but it could also be january.
the wii u will be under 200k next month. it will be under 100k next year at multiple points. i'm guessing under 100k will start in february, but it could also be january.
360 dropping in its 8th December doesn't seem as bad as the 3DS in its second.
edit: I'm not saying that 3DS did badly, obviously it did fine. I just doubt Nintendo are popping any champagne bottles.
Exterminieren
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Nope.
Not setting the world alight, certainly, but calling the sales terrible is witless hyperbole.
Huh? Your definition of terribly is?
Its far from terrible. It is no. 2 after 3ds.
Generally you can mess up for a long, long time before you get ousted.
Like, a really long time.
Now, going from $80 billion to $15 billion in market valuation is pretty terrible, but I still feel he has a long way to go before he's seriously in trouble.
No. They're still tracking. They're still tracking "other" that came before PS2 even. It's microscopic, but they track it.
They did stop reporting them to press and the public.
Monty Mole
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But.... new Xbox...!?
KillerTravis
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Yeah Pokemon will sell like crazy this year, and so will the 3DS. I wonder what franchise could do the same for Wii U.
Uh, no. What do you are talking about exactly?
TheNatural
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Working at retail the NPD numbers feel exactly how it went in my store back there.
The Skylanders bundle was big at like $129 for Wii. 360 sold a ton, so did 3DS. 3DS's were on sale for way lower than MSRP every week. $129 for a regular one, $150 for an XL, and $180 for XL + Mario Kart were common big selling bundles.
360 sold a shitload of games, Black Ops II was sold out almost all the time. NO ONE asked about Wii U outside of it's launch. I actually had a handful of them returned, one guy said he couldn't find any buyers on eBay.
It all makes sense.
thehypocrite
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There isn't enough demand.
november - december = roughly 900k.
Syphon Filter
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How do you know how much consoles nintendo put out though?what if 460k was all they put out?
So hard to tell.
They will be a year later (Economy can change for better or worse)
They will be marketted to high heaven
They will be noticeable enhancements to current gen versions
They will be marketted to high heaven
AAA Third parties will actually support them
They will be marketted to high heaven
Week 1 2013 sales, I'd imagine. IIRC, every other platform rose whilst the Wii-U dropped. Not terrible but certainly not a good sign.
Turn echo off.
Well, I would say there was actually a lot of faith that Sony would have a giant line-up of third party games eventually.
And I mean, they did eventually deliver that.
AndrewDean84xX
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Especially because we don't have other next gen consoles to compare sales to.