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Under $15 million? Most WiiU games are $60 right? So that's under 250,000 games sold.

 

[ULTROS!]

I wonder how much did Ni no Kuni sell worldwide now.

I'm glad there's a JRPG up there in the NPD charts that's not FF/DQ/KH/Pokemon.

 

[FrankT]

So what about the Wii....

 

[toddhunter]

How bad is 15m in software? Compare it to the ps3 or 360... or the vita.

Well look at 15m as selling maybe 300k pieces of software.

As of December NPD Mario had sold 337k by itself.... so it is not a good look.

 

[shinra-bansho]

This would presumably be NPD only.

I think he's referring to Nintendo's shipment figure. It's nowhere close to 3M WW in sell-through. I doubt it's even anywhere near 2.5M with these sales.

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Repost:

https://twitter.com/TheKevinDent/status/302240831761440769

The free ride is over Nintendo. Time to start giving a shit once again.

 

[brochiller]

Nintendo had shipped 350,000 units of the Virtual Boy by December 1995, around three and a half months after its North American release..

So no, Wii U is not a worse launch than Virtual Boy.

Wii U sold about 940,000 in three months.

 

[Zoramon089]

Virtual Boy sold 770k WW LTD. THis guy is full of shit.

Edit: Also Vita is just dead right now. Sony shouldn't thrown any more money into that sinkhole and focus on PS4.

Shhh, it's funnier to believe a troll than try to argue with him. Facts mean nothing

 

[Lonely1]

This would presumably be NPD only.

Did the VB really sold ~800k on its first 3 months in the USA? I thought it was way worse than that.

Under $15 million? Most WiiU games are $60 right? So that's under 250,000 games sold.

That 5 to 1 attach ratio!

 

[Father_Brain]

Not Vita's lowest month but if it were normalized it would have been 28k. Terribad.

So this is its lowest month to date in terms of weekly average?

 

[PhoenixDawn]

I call BS on that Virtual Boy statement. I don't even think VB shipped more than 700k units LIFETIME, let alone sold them. That said, the Wii U is in such a bad condition that people would actually believe that statement.

 

[Bisnic]

Who's this twitter guy?

 

[Plinko]

Virtual Boy sold 770k WW LTD. THis guy is full of shit.

This is what I thought as well.

As for this news: the good news? It is still only 3 months in with only two real major first-party titles, and the 3DS went through the same thing but is doing fine now.

The bad news? This isn't the handheld market and it is going to take a TON of things to fall perfectly in place for them to turn it around.

 

[Loudninja]

I wonder how much did Ni no Kuni sell worldwide now.

I'm glad there's a JRPG up there in the NPD charts that's not FF/DQ/KH/Pokemon.

I think it did well going by this and the Europe charts.

 

[Version 3.0]

That guy's crazy. The Wii U outsold the Virtual Boy's total worldwide sales, in just the USA, before Christmas.

 

[AniHawk]

Yeah, I can't wait to see what Retro is doing though. Maybe they'll be making just the type of attention grabbing game I'm talking about?

Now, just for a moment I think an exercise might be interesting:

Do we think this state of Wii U is purely going to be representative of the failings of Nintendo, or do you think PS4 and Xbox 720 might do the same? Might we be seeing the first true sign of what awaits the industry in a few months? Why or why not?

I've always maintained I hate system launches and their "launch windows" because generally speaking we might get ONE good game at best and two mediocre ones, and then eleven-twenty atrocious ones followed by no games for 3-6 months. And I still suspect the same will be true of Xbox 720 and PS4. Games take a long time to develop, and there's generally never enough time to ensure your game is in a healthy state by the time devs got the final dev kits and modified their vision and content to make it on time.

What type of games do we think Xbox 720 or PS4 might have to change the game in their own way? I certainly feel Sony is in a much better position in terms of game development than Nintendo is, given that they've put out tentacles all over the place this gen and have experience with it now. But I don't know if it'd be enough... because it's clearly probably going to launch at $399.99 along with Xbox 720, and that's a lot of money for people these days coupled with a terrible launch window and experiences they've already had before.


Just wondering what people might think of this

no way will the ps4 AND the 720 do what the wii u is doing. the 360 and ps3 are both selling okay at $200-$300.

that said, i think the console market is shrinking. or the traditional console market is, at least. fortunately for sony and microsoft, they aren't targeting the traditional console market anymore, and they're going to try and branch out towards a much wider audience from the word go.

but we have seen the traditional market shrink over the last year now. the xbox 360 might be up month over month, but that's taking an extra week of sales into account. this is reminiscent of the ds still doing well in 2010, but clearly starting to falter. microsoft will at least have some momentum going into next gen, and sony might as well (they don't seem to fare as well during the holidays in the us though).

at the very least, there should be _some_ games out for these things- if not from first-parties, then at least from third-parties.

as far as the wii u goes, it's dead jim. microsoft and sony won't have to worry about that piece of competition. people keep comparing the wii u to the dreamcast. i think the sega saturn is more accurate.

 

[Nekofrog]

Aliens: Colonial Marines is most definitely cancelled for the Wii U now.

 

[Coolwhip]

The free ride is over Nintendo. Time to start giving a shit once again.

A lot of the wrong choices Nintendo made with Wii U are irreversible though.

 

[Effect]

Even the Virtual Boy / Saturn were better, guys.

I would love to see sources to back up that claim.

 

[toddhunter]

This is what I thought as well.

As for this news: the good news? It is still only 3 months in with only two real major first-party titles, and the 3DS went through the same thing but is doing fine.

The bad news? This isn't the handheld market and it is going to take a TON of things to fall perfectly in place for them to turn it around.

We shall soon see?

 

[?oe?oe]

About numbers? The NPD won't allow it.

Not hard to do it anonymously...

 

[Cake Boss]

Because Platinum Games, son. Also, Nintendo will bring it with their first party titles. The 3DS has proven that.

The 3DS competition is the Vita.

WiiU soon to be competitors is the PS4 and Xbox, huge difference when you got 2 companies focused largly on that product compared to Sony lack of interest and focus on the Vita.

 

[leatherhat]

Nooooo. I don't want the Vita to die.

Muramasa, dragons crown, killzone, tearaway and soul sacrifice. Embrace them, love them, but prepare to say your goodbyes anyway.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

 

[Striek]

Well, there were 885K other hardware buyers.

This essentially would lower the tie ratio though. If anyone remembers the ratio from last month - can make a guestimate.

It would increase it. The tie-ratio was 1.8 through December.

 

[Dead Prince]

Muramasa, dragons crown, killzone, tearaway and soul sacrifice. Embrace them, love them, but prepare to say your goodbyes anyway.

Dragons Crown doesn't exist.

 

[Plinko]

Aliens: Colonial Marines is most definitely cancelled for the Wii U now.

Nintendo did need some good news today I guess.

 

[Miles X]

I would love to see sources to back up that claim.

He's probably just assuming, he seems to be relishing all of it.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Gee why did Rayman get delayed

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Ouch at Vita and WiiU.

I hope the Vita picks up. The Wii U deserves its sales while I really don’t think the Vita does. It's not fair.

 

[Kusagari]

There is no turning the Wii U around. At most they'll turn it from the epic disaster it is currently into Gamecube 2.0.

There is no DS/3DS turnaround happening in the console spectrum. There's far too much competition and other factors going against them.

 

[erpg]

Dragons Crown doesn't exist.

It was played by a Kotaku Blogger just last week.

 

[Nirolak]

I'm leaving the VB one out of the OP since it's disputed, but the rest matches up with other sources so I'm adding that.

 

[gkryhewy]

Setting aside the context for each, I would note that three major-brand console launches in a row have now cratered in the US. 3DS, vita, Wii U.

 

[DMeisterJ]

55k and 35k. wow.

PSV and WiiU are sinking/have sunk.

 

[Visualante2]

All the fun about Nintendo taking a beating has kinda turned very sour for me. How long can they keep going like this?

 

[Plinko]

We shall soon see?

It is absolutely dominating in Japan and had a great holiday season here.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Could be worse!

Spoiler

it could be the UK sales

 

[Wynnebeck]

Don't know if Wii U sold worse than VB but it is funny to see how many people get offended at the idea and call for Twitter Guy's head.

 

[Nekofrog]

Nintendo did need some good news today I guess.

There's always a silver lining!

 

[Nirolak]

I think he's referring to Nintendo's shipment figure. It's nowhere close to 3M WW in sell-through. I doubt it's even anywhere near 2.5M with these sales.

No I mean KevinDent's statement.

Wii U 3 million shipped would be worldwide for sure, and definitely only shipped.

 

[MrDaravon]

At this point I think just want the Vita to bomb so they will drop the price so I can fucking get one just for Persona 4. Hardware is incredible, but there is jack shit for games I want on it, and doesn't look like a whole lot coming out anytime soon either (unless they drop some major bombs next week).

 

[RoKKeR]

Bomba confirmed. C'mon Nintendo, price drop that shit and I'll add a system sold. I wouldn't have grabbed the Vita had it not been for that amazing Amazon deal.

 

[leatherhat]

Well look at 15m as selling maybe 300k pieces of software.

As of December NPD Mario had sold 337k by itself.... so it is not a good look.

Ugh that's bad

That 5 to 1 attach ratio!

That can be their PR spin!

 

[Yamauchi]

Goodness gracious, Iwata. You really f'ed up.

 

[Cheebo]

This is what I thought as well.

As for this news: the good news? It is still only 3 months in with only two real major first-party titles, and the 3DS went through the same thing but is doing fine now.

The bad news? This isn't the handheld market and it is going to take a TON of things to fall perfectly in place for them to turn it around.

We have no idea how 3ds did. Other than software sales are down 4% for 3ds compared to last year from ign which is alarming for a system that is still fairly young with a lot more software than it did last year.

 

[Ridley327]

I would love to see sources to back up that claim.

The official lifetime total for the Virtual Boy is 770k.

I'm not saying he's making stuff up, but he's making stuff up.

 

[Lonely1]

I'm leaving the VB one out of the OP since it's disputed, but the rest matches up with other sources so I'm adding that.

How much was the Saturn?

 

[SolarPowered]

Repost:

https://twitter.com/TheKevinDent/status/302240831761440769

I'm listening to The Morrow as I type and I can't help feeling the need to photoshop Iwata's face onto Vincent Freeman in his janitor suit right about now.

 

[moulels]

;_________;