-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
NPD March 2012 Sales Results [Up3: ME3 Total, Binary Domain]
- Thread starter Nirolak
- Start date
Fantastical
Death Prophet
In order for Vita to sell more than the 3DS did in 3 months it would have to sell ~260k in April.
Power to be the only software that sells. Well, Kid Icarus did well.
Someone check my math, I'm doing this as I'm doing homework
Power to be the only software that sells. Well, Kid Icarus did well.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
What's happening at E3?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Incompetence of SCEJ really is something else.
Easily possible. April shows a bunch of good games for the Vita such as:
MikeE21286
Member
Can we not extrapolate Vita numbers somehow?
Very curious...
Very curious...
Well hey maybe the Vita will become the big american handheld that devs flock to.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
What do you think they spend their money on?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
More than 200k, less than 225k
?bigtroyjon
Member
Kinda figured the 360 would have taken the software lead by now but I would think Microsoft will let us know when that happens.
Should be getting close, can already see the PR for next month if it happens with Kinect Star Wars leading the charge.
Should be getting close, can already see the PR for next month if it happens with Kinect Star Wars leading the charge.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I know everyone expects the Vita to sell like hotcakes like all new systems, but I honestly think the plan all along was to hang in there for the first 6 months or so and have early adopters foster word of mouth and pay the early adopter tax as I like to call it, then later comes a price cut and a flood of content by holiday season. Being close in sales with the 3DS at this moment is sort a comfortable position to be in, and Sony can say to Western Devs even today "games on our system have healthy sales across retail and digitally and are just as healthy as 3DS which has a larger install base. Our install base, though small but growing, has an extremely great attach rate and are eager to buy."
Of course I am slighty bias since I own a Vita, but didn't Uncharted sell better than RE:R just off retail alone, not including digital sales? So my comment/opinion might not be too far off base. One thing is for sure Sony is running a marathon with the Vita not a 40 yard dash. We will know more about where they stand in the race come Holiday season, but I do think a price cut AND at least a 4 GB memory card pack in are a must by Holiday season.
PS. I am well aware of how the 3DS is trouncing the Vita, and everything for that matter, in Japan. I don't know of anything that can change that ATM, the 3DS has become a cultural phenomenon over there and it would take a lot to over come it. Who knows how much a price cut, MonHun, and other Japanese centric titles for the Vita could help change that though?
Of course I am slighty bias since I own a Vita, but didn't Uncharted sell better than RE:R just off retail alone, not including digital sales? So my comment/opinion might not be too far off base. One thing is for sure Sony is running a marathon with the Vita not a 40 yard dash. We will know more about where they stand in the race come Holiday season, but I do think a price cut AND at least a 4 GB memory card pack in are a must by Holiday season.
PS. I am well aware of how the 3DS is trouncing the Vita, and everything for that matter, in Japan. I don't know of anything that can change that ATM, the 3DS has become a cultural phenomenon over there and it would take a lot to over come it. Who knows how much a price cut, MonHun, and other Japanese centric titles for the Vita could help change that though?
MikeE21286
Member
Gotcha. Well that's boring :lol
SaintMadeOfPlaster
Member
Has Nintendo released a statement? I just skimmed the last few pages.
Dreams-Visions
Member
If that wasn't the angle Sony was planning on taking initially, that's certainly the one they need to spin it as now.
It can work. Whether it will and how long it will take to grow like a new platform should remains to be seen.
That took 4-5 years to develop. You know, the length of a normal console generation.
Puppet Shadow
Member
We'll know by E3. If there's big games coming 6 out months after this, then Sony will certainly get the word out at that time.
MisterHero
Super Member
Kid Icarus was an odd choice to build a giant multiplayer experience around, and have that experience last long, and make anime and trading cards.
Hats off to Nintendo if they can make it last, though.
Hats off to Nintendo if they can make it last, though.
Those statements were really early. They were happy with day one NA sales and sell in, but I'd be really surprised if they say they're happy now. The 4-1 Xbox ratio does not bode well for European sales. Neither does Riccitiello saying it sold through ~800K in the US day one given where it ended up.
I don't think they're disappointed, just not happy.
Hours Left
Member
Were people really expecting Graces f to crack the top 10? I don't think it was something people had hope for.
It doesn't mean it's not doing well though.
It doesn't mean it's not doing well though.
They will be falling all over themselves for that hot hot 30k unit sales software action.
Nintendo releases the MEGATONS... the end of days/judgment day/mayan calander ends at the end of the e3 Nintendo Conference
Thunder Monkey
Banned
It's a strange argument to make.
In publishers eyes the PS3/360 might be the same console, in the eyes of the market, and developers they are wholly different.
From the perspective of the market one is a lot cheaper, has a Kinect, and features the best online gaming mindshare marketing can buy. The other costs more, plays HD Blu discs, and has Indiana Jones after a psychotic break.
In the minds of developers... well they have stark differences in architecture. One is fairly straight forward, the other slightly esoteric. Unified RAM and Split pool.
They can't be the same in the minds of anyone but publishers. Developers have a hard time getting games designed under the constraints of the other to run effectively across. Some are better at it than others. But in the minds of a developer you always have to be mindful when working across the two platforms. One has a full 512MB of RAM that can be dedicated to certain tasks, the other has 256MB on the GPU and 256MB on the CPU.
And people? Well they look at the differing games, costs, and features.
In only one way are the two consoles the same my little special specialguy. They are close enough in tech that publishers will absorb the costs of porting if it means the potential exposure to 120 million players in total.
In publishers eyes the PS3/360 might be the same console, in the eyes of the market, and developers they are wholly different.
From the perspective of the market one is a lot cheaper, has a Kinect, and features the best online gaming mindshare marketing can buy. The other costs more, plays HD Blu discs, and has Indiana Jones after a psychotic break.
In the minds of developers... well they have stark differences in architecture. One is fairly straight forward, the other slightly esoteric. Unified RAM and Split pool.
They can't be the same in the minds of anyone but publishers. Developers have a hard time getting games designed under the constraints of the other to run effectively across. Some are better at it than others. But in the minds of a developer you always have to be mindful when working across the two platforms. One has a full 512MB of RAM that can be dedicated to certain tasks, the other has 256MB on the GPU and 256MB on the CPU.
And people? Well they look at the differing games, costs, and features.
In only one way are the two consoles the same my little special specialguy. They are close enough in tech that publishers will absorb the costs of porting if it means the potential exposure to 120 million players in total.
Undershipped.
News! Hopefully all three will have plans on how they will rejuvenate the market. (e.g. price drops, new products, game announcements, advertising plans, etc.)
I'm not really a sales guy, and I won't pretend to be, but I'm curious about something if qualified Gaffers care to speculate at all. Whats the chance that Sony had intended on the Vita being more important in the West, then in East?
I'm not sure how successful they can be in this aspect if it were true, but considering their launch line-up being as western focused as it was, and looks to be in the near future so far, plus the biggest "Possible" games that have been stuff like announced being COD, Madden, and Bioshock, it seems to me that Sony might be intentionally trying to push the Vita as a western focused handheld. Like I said though, i'm not in the industry, or really into the sales stuff I just think it could be an interesting strategy if not alittle flawed.
It just always seemed like Sony was targeting something like the Ipad, over the 3DS.
I'm not sure how successful they can be in this aspect if it were true, but considering their launch line-up being as western focused as it was, and looks to be in the near future so far, plus the biggest "Possible" games that have been stuff like announced being COD, Madden, and Bioshock, it seems to me that Sony might be intentionally trying to push the Vita as a western focused handheld. Like I said though, i'm not in the industry, or really into the sales stuff I just think it could be an interesting strategy if not alittle flawed.
It just always seemed like Sony was targeting something like the Ipad, over the 3DS.
I think they (American devs) should really look at it as a cheap porting ground for their big projects and IOS efforts. Might as well make some extra money.
Something like Mass Effect Infiltrator should have been on the Vita as well, it's a no brainer.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
People should not expect much from April.
March is the big month. Tax return season kicks in, there are usually a few high profile releases, so sales are strongest in March.
April, however, is a BIG drop off....expect 50-60% of the sales in March for April.
Vita could, and probably will be, around 100k or less in April. And I wouldn't expect that number to perk up significantly until they have a rush of content or a price drop in the fall.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Not even numbers wise. 194/4 weeks vs 200-225k/5 weeks. 3DS still did better it's 2nd month.
Square Triangle
Member
Nice showing for MLB 12 The Show!!
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I don't think thats what was intended as much as thats what has happened thanks to SCEJ completely falling over the feet of their own incompetence as they tend to do.
Vita could have a few okay months ahead of itself over the summer here in the states (but April will be real bad). After that, well I guess it depends. Guess everybody will find out at E3.
ShironRedshift
Member
I don't believe this is something they intended at all, since they decided is was more important to launch the Vita in Japan first, launching it there 2 months ahead of its western release and thus making the holiday period in Japan but not elsewhere (although it is weird that even despite that, in Japan, they launched with a more western-focused line of games than anything, but you can only work with what you're given, I suppose), which doesn't really make sense at all if the west really was their true focus. They quite likely are noting these developments though and will try to make use of them the best they can and thus it could quite possibly turn out that they're shifting their focus to the west, but this doesn't seem to be the path they expected Vita to be taking back before launch.
power to the only software that actually releases
nintendo and third parties dropping all them balls
Analyzing software sales with just a top 10 list is a mistake.
In any case, those promotions ran from late March to early April IIRC.
Kasumi1970
my name is Ted
No Tales of Graces F.
it a JRPG...they don't sell in the US this gen like they did last gen
If the Vita launched in the west first, the drought in content would have been disastrous. The Vita's launch was completely front-loaded. I think they should have a drip of releases. Wip3out and lumines in April to even it out,
ShironRedshift
Member
Except... where do you think IGN got all those Nintendo numbers from, in that case? They didn't pull them out of thin air...
Sorry, late to this so... what's the guesstimate on Vita numbers? I was hoping for anything North of 100k.
You mean 2 gens ago!