I think the only data we have is >530k. I think it was even up YOY(2% I think)
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NPD Sales Results for December 2013 [Up2: Xbox One/360 HW, 3DS top system of year]
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I think the only data we have is >530k. I think it was even up YOY(2% I think)
The bolded so much. So fucking much. SD cards are serviceable for handhelds as 3DS is proving. They're cheap and they're fast enough and they're everywhere. At least with Blu-Ray Sony was trying to win a format war. What was the point here?
Ouch. Isn't Nintendo a strong brand in France?
How is the camera DoA? It's currently selling pretty well.
oconnomiyaki
Member
Vita... we'll always have Wipeout 2048.
That's your fault, not the Vita's or Sony's.
Basileus777
Member
The DOA camera that was sold out for most of 2013.
MisterHero
Super Member
I just realized how Nintendo can sell Wii U without the pad while without losing functionality.
Sell the console for $200. Sell the pad as a seperate controller for $100 dollars with innards that can carry small games. VC/eshop games, perhaps.
Kill the original 3DS, reduce 2DS and XL prices, and release 3DSU. It'd combines the 3DS with the Upad but has 2 analogue sticks and can play games for both.
Hypothetical brainfarting aside, I'd like to see 3DS as a Wii U controller. The touchscreen resolution is probably killing that idea though
Sell the console for $200. Sell the pad as a seperate controller for $100 dollars with innards that can carry small games. VC/eshop games, perhaps.
Kill the original 3DS, reduce 2DS and XL prices, and release 3DSU. It'd combines the 3DS with the Upad but has 2 analogue sticks and can play games for both.
Hypothetical brainfarting aside, I'd like to see 3DS as a Wii U controller. The touchscreen resolution is probably killing that idea though
Those aren't really the kind of games that I'm interested in, though.
Good for people that are into Harem Heaven, Yandere Hell or whatever, but that's not my jam.
Valkyria
Banned
This is the post, I actually believe in mortimer :
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=97015268&postcount=266
Magicpaint
Member
Shows how poorly the 3DS is doing in the UK. But the France numbers are quite good. Those WiiU numbers are freaking terrible though.
Vita... we'll always have Wipeout 2048.
The weakest Wipeout game since Fusion, yeah.
Counting ipod sales?
Longer because it wont be replaced and it has a niche as an ps4 addon.
Wii sales fell like a brick in the latest years of the system, it suffer from a heavy fatigue and probably high market saturation, Nintendo had no choice but announce the succesor really quick.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Why did you even buy the system then? The writing has been on the wall forever now honestly.
Even the 3DS for all its great games has basically zero western support.
theprodigy
Member
10/10 would read again
yeah well Nintendo doesn't do worse comparatively in the UK, what are you talking about!
....despite them doing better in NA, Japan, and large parts of continental Europe of course
Yeah, I expect this to be the case. Good thing the system is region free, there are lots of exciting JP games coming out this year and next. Also some localisations of great games coming out very soon in English, such as Toukiden, Demon Gaze, and Dangan Ronpa.
Vita will be nothing more a niche product mainly catering to the Atlus/NISA/Falcom crowd in the USA. Think of it as this generation's Turbo Express.
CouldBeWorse
Member
creamsugar is always just referring to US sales.
And 400-500k was probably not too far out of line with most expectations.
soundscream
Member
They still have their Ace in the whole to help generate sales
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=740002
I am a Nintendo fan and sales-ager and that plan fucking confused the hell out of me. How do you think the market would respond? You damn near blew my mind with '3DSU'. No chance in hell this would work.
ps4 camera is pretty much a useless addon except for the Just Dance folks.
Whipped Spartan
Member
I already use mine as a PS4 accessory.
I bought the Vita day 1, expecting it to be the PSP2.
Puppet Shadow
Member
Eh, the PS4 is pretty much sold out everywhere, and it's not like GT6 would somehow help Sony produce consoles faster.
Even if it was released on PS4 instead of the PS3, would the more powerful console address the issues people have with the game? Serious question btw, I know there's issues but aren't they more gameplay ones?
It still sounds better than most of Nintendo's ideas for the Wii U...
UberTag
Member
If you're in Japan, your expectations have been fully realized. It is a full-fledged PSP successor and getting a metric ton of software support.
But if you're not in Japan...
You're forgetting about the streaming community.
It's around 5 million users by now. It's a small number, but I think they would want their support. Kinda of the same problem with Wii U (but worse).
I don't think they'll release another dedicated handheld. A tablet/gaming hybrid? That remains to be seen.
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Like I said, I bought one fully knowing that SCEA support would resume to localizations and indie titles. If they continue at least putting these titles on it, It'll be enough for me.
oh shit, you're right. Still a niche market though.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Correct. Both Germany and France are Nintendo's strongest European countries.
Nintendo did extremely well in France considering. They also have 3 of the top 10 best-selling titles in 2013.
It also helps that Nintendo's management in France is top notch compared to the U.K.
lightning2k3
Member
Unfortunately it seems like the days of dedicated gaming handhelds are coming to an end. Even the 3DS is trailing behind the original PSP. SCEA basically ignoring the vita didn't help either.
Genuine question as someone who has both a Vita and PS4 - why? What do you use it for? Why is it worth it? I can't figure that part out at all. Is it remote play?
oconnomiyaki
Member
And yet still better than 90% of what gets released.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
All I know is my Vita projections are going to have to be revised downward. A platform selling that badly will be quietly phased out in short order. I think 2013 was Vita's last year on the American market. Shipments will be small if nonexistent until Sony announces its discontinuation on store shelves. To get to 20 million units I was hedging on America selling six to seven million units. Now I expect it to be discontinued.
So 13-14 million units WW year 5. That's if the discontinuation does not have an effect on sales in other regions. It could go lower.
I don't think Sony's going to be making handhelds much longer. That's kind of sad. I loved both PSP and Vita in theory. They just never really lived up to their potential of "Home console games on the go."
So 13-14 million units WW year 5. That's if the discontinuation does not have an effect on sales in other regions. It could go lower.
I don't think Sony's going to be making handhelds much longer. That's kind of sad. I loved both PSP and Vita in theory. They just never really lived up to their potential of "Home console games on the go."
theprodigy
Member
They make other games in Asia you know:
J stars Victory Vs.
Natural doctrine
Soul sacrifice delta
are all games I'm hoping to be localized.
EDIT: changed, couldn't be bothered with the argument.
Even in Japan the Vita is missing out on a lot of things the PSP had.
There is no way J-Stars makes it to the US.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
But thats basically what you got? The PSP was a dead system in the west for years though. And the larger Western studios were already done with handhelds for years too. PSP ended up surviving its last couple years on the back of MonHun and some Japanese games that don't really mesh all that well with a mainstream Western audience.
ultratruman
Banned
Speculation goes from retailer pressure to recouping the loss of launching at $250 (remember how big a deal that was at the time?).
Whatever the reason, it sucks hard. I doubt it's easily changed though as standard SD cards wouldn't fit in the OG vita's memory card slot.
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
That would be catastrophic if it turned out to be true. My lord...
Whipped Spartan
Member
I use it to remote play while playing PC or xbox. Basically a good second screen device to stay plugged in to PSN. PS Live, friends, PSN store. occasionally I'll play Injustice on it too.