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NPD Sales Results for February 2009
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Beer Monkey
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That's too bad about HotD. I love rail shooters I think they would do better in 2009 at a lower release price. I know UC did well but the Resident Evil brand is huge. Hopefully HotD has really long legs once they drop the price.
plagiarize
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kitch, you're confusing potential demand with actual demand.
if the 360 and PS3 were in ample stock (IE everyone that wanted one was able to buy one) last year, and sold the same amount world wide, they were in equal demand.
EQUAL.
there may be more untapped demand for a lower cost PS3 than a lower cost 360, but that doesn't really matter. the 'room' for price drops ISN'T the MSRP.
what matters is how much selling a system makes the company. if Microsoft are making more money on each 360 sold than sony are making on each PS3 sold, irrespective of the fact that the 360 is cheaper, Microsoft have MORE room to drop the price.
furthermore, the 360 can ALWAYS be 'half the price' of the PS3 should Microsoft want. if sony drop the price of the PS3 $100, microsoft need only drop the Core $50.
i'd bet you that Microsoft come out at least $50 better off on a 360 sale than Sony do a PS3 sale.
if the 360 and PS3 were in ample stock (IE everyone that wanted one was able to buy one) last year, and sold the same amount world wide, they were in equal demand.
EQUAL.
there may be more untapped demand for a lower cost PS3 than a lower cost 360, but that doesn't really matter. the 'room' for price drops ISN'T the MSRP.
what matters is how much selling a system makes the company. if Microsoft are making more money on each 360 sold than sony are making on each PS3 sold, irrespective of the fact that the 360 is cheaper, Microsoft have MORE room to drop the price.
furthermore, the 360 can ALWAYS be 'half the price' of the PS3 should Microsoft want. if sony drop the price of the PS3 $100, microsoft need only drop the Core $50.
i'd bet you that Microsoft come out at least $50 better off on a 360 sale than Sony do a PS3 sale.
Grampa Simpson
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pakkit said:
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
From all accounts DR:CTYD is just an average game that was ported as cheaply and easily as possible, not the anti-christ (or the refutation of christ). So at its price point, sales in the 40k-50k range wouldn't seem obscene. However, Capcom were missing from the list Nintendo released so at best it was probably in the 31-50 range.pakkit said:
plagiarize said:
I think Kitch9 has made it clear he isn't concerned with that pointless "boardroom" crap. He's only concerned with the facts on the ground.
For example, if KZ2 were a bag of tangerines selling for $4.59 at a market in NYC, and L4D were a bushel of apples selling for $3.98 in San Diego, and the truck carrying the Street Fighter bananas crashes in Mexico, then the KZ2 tangerines are lowered to $4.32 since everyone's money is as good as everyone elses, then the L4D bushel would have less room to lower prices... See? Its called economics, guys... not very hard.
plagiarize
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there really is no such thing as 'simple economics'. i think kitch9 proves that.
wayward archer
Member
lawblob said:
This actually makes more sense than the last few of Sony's NPD response PR releases.
Sony... hire this man immediately.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Stop bringing the rest of the world into these threads! Nobody cares about Europe, Japan, Paraguay, and so on.
kitch9 said:
I wonder how much money Sony receives from their massive amounts of potential sales. I'm sure all those people who got fired are happy that they could keep their jobs due to these imaginary potential sales of magical pixy dust that somehow turn the economical world as we know it upside down.
BishopLamont
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I think "the rest of the week" isn't as significant as you believe it is. I know there's the slight chance it'll scratch top 10 in March, but I don't have much faith. We shall see. What did you expect KZ2 to sell in February donny? 300k for this game was underwhelming to me.donny2112 said:
Flying_Phoenix
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cw_sasuke said:
Lower then what I was expecting (60 to 75k) but it isn't terrible. I guess I don't care much because the game is tearing up the charts in Europe.
I'm not worried because lightgun games on the Wii seem to have massive legs. Also I wouldn't be surprised if something hindering its sales is that ridiculous $50 price point. I mean it can't be the Wii market because light gun games and even violent "M" rated light gun games have been proven to sell well.
plagiarize said:
You are possibly right. Discussing how much room any manufacturer has to adjust price is pure semantics, and only the boardroom suits will know. It is irrelevant to us as we do not know, and not something any of us can discuss and be confident we actually know what the fuck we are talking about, for this reason profits and margins are irrelevant for our particular discussion.
The simple fact is, and something we all know about is that MS and Sony sold the same amount of units last year at their current price levels. As one product is a higher price than another that suggests the "potential" demand is higher for that product.....
Worldwide, for the US dudes who forgot over the last few posts........
kitch9 said:
We can't truly know how much of a profit margin Sony might be at with the PS3 but we know that as a whole Sony isn't exactly in great financial shape. This might be said to be a limiting factor, the strong Yen in particular is really hurting Sony's business right now according to their own statements. You also have to wonder exactly what Sony would gain (aside from e-penis) if they sacrificed profitability or at least greatly reduced their profit margin with a price drop. I mean, even if they DID manage to squeak ahead of MS... so what? Sony is a business, and their goal is to make money, not to sell more console units than their competitor (though that's a nice bonus when that happens). If Sony can generate more profit with a price drop they will, if they feel they can't they won't.
Interfectum
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Tmac said:
Uh, no it didn't. You serious? :lol
Psychotext
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The only current gen console to post reduced sales vs last year... 3 months in a row. Yeah, it's doing much better than people want to admit.Tmac said:
Scrubking said:
Witness said:
HoTD as a series is more popular series in the UK (at least as far as Wii is concerned), HoTD 2/3 Returns Wii sold almost 200k in the UK alone as of the last award report
HoTD Overkill is set to surpass that total as its been on the charts for longer at higher spots since it spent two weeks in the Top 10 (HoTD 2/3 Returns dropped off the charts after 4 weeks, HoTD Overkill is not only still on the charts after 5 weeks but actually moved up 4 spots and remains in the Top 5 of all Wii games behind only Wii Fit, Mario Kart and Mario and Sonic Olympics)
Grampa Simpson
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You should probably change your avatar. It's a little tall.Mkliner said:
Stoney Mason
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Psychotext said:
4 I believe. This trend started in November.
frankie_baby
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not a good start though i'd guess (hope) it'll have respectable numbers by the end of the year, well at least its going down well on my side of the atlanticcw_sasuke said:
TheListener
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Interfectum said:
Obviously you do not believe. You'll be sorry one day when a purifying light seeks all heretics and cleanses the souls of the unpure.
DeaconKnowledge
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Tmac said:
Yeah, it only BARELY underperformed for the month. Good for them!
BishopLamont said:
380K, IIRC. It's in the prediction thread. I also said in the prediction thread that if Killzone 2 sold > 300K in February, that I'd expect it to sell 1-1.5 times that in March. With the discussion in this thread, I don't think I'm going to follow that criteria for next month's predictions, though, if Killzone 2 is even a part of it. Gots some thinking to do for next month's games. :lol
Son of Godzilla
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Yea, there are quite a few games who easily "saved" a system. Pokemon, Mario 64, and Wii Sports are incredibly obvious ones.
Son of Godzilla said:
I don't think launch games can "save" a system, which would also exclude Halo 1. For launch games, it would just be described as a "system seller." Pokemon is a great example of a game revitalizing/"saving" a system, though. I think the PSP-2000 in Japan might fit the same description with Monster Hunter 2 Portable playing a supporting role, as well.
Saint Gregory
Member
I'm really torn when it comes to HOTD's performance. On one hand I love the game (the Hand Cannon should have been released in the US, I imported 2 and I think it's the best gun shell ever) but I don't think Sega should be rewarded for releasing such a sloppy mess of a game in terms of overall polish.
Well that and I'd hate for publishers to have more evidence that light-guns games are what sells on the Wii :/
Well that and I'd hate for publishers to have more evidence that light-guns games are what sells on the Wii :/
Well I'm glad it's doing well in uk. BTW do we have actual UK numbers for overkill ?