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NPD Sales Results for February 2013 [Up5: Dead Space 3, Crysis 3, Official PS3/WiiU]
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Why are people calling this guy out? I assume he was the guy in charge of the game.
All according to Keikaku.
Edited the previous post. Got some numbers in my head mixed up. 10K is probably reasonable for February PSP sales.
AZ Greg
Member
Hmm...
Reggie gonna be contributing to our unemployment numbers soon...
Maybe they work on the cheap. DmC did ship 1 million units, that's about 30-40 million in Capcom's pocket, it may have actually broke even, who knows.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Why would the bundle count as a physical sale if it comes with a digital copy?
I dunno. They probably pitch well. Their "game style" is in vogue. They haven't bombed for everybody yet. There honestly aren't that many non-shit tier independent studios left these days.
Conversely, they're in an expensive development market, they're not fast with their games, and they have a track record of bombs.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
None of those bombings were Ninja Theory's fault though. Especially for Enslaved or DmC. As long as their games continue reviewing well and get a lot of press/attention, I don't see why any publisher would view them as toxic.
I would also managed Ninja Theory has a good relation with publishers and meets their deadlines (which matters a lot).
nhlducks35
Member
It depends how Nintendo views it for their own report, since it was a digital copy sold at retail.
Little Green Yoda
Member
When did the GCN see its first price drop?
So what was it that pushed Awakening's sales above the earlier games in the series?
Word of mouth? High metascore? Starved 3DS owners?
There was next to no marketing, and it didn't really get any attention by the press pre-release.
I wonder if the inevitable sequel will have the same success.
Word of mouth? High metascore? Starved 3DS owners?
There was next to no marketing, and it didn't really get any attention by the press pre-release.
I wonder if the inevitable sequel will have the same success.
1 million units is closer to ~$20 million.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
They might be commercial bombs but yo.. Heavenly Sword and Enslaved are good fuckin games. I suspect if I played DMC it'd be a good game too. I have no idea why people do not buy their games but happily buy shit like Aliens.
The scope of Tim's games has changed drastically, though.
What do you mean not NT's fault? Are you only attributing "blame" for bombs to studios if the games are poorly received?
Alex
Member
Personally, I'm fine with everything else in NNK sans the combat, which takes the entire game down several notches. It's quite poorly balanced, unnecessarily clunky and senseless and it's artificially drawn out (to such an extent I haven't seen in years outside of the enforced jank in Pokemon) and combined with the frequency of combat can really wreck pacing. I don't personally know a single person who finished NNK just due to the combat, well, besides me, but I can temper the annoyance by bitching about it!
Level-5's "quirk" absolutely kills combat systems, I think this has been quite proven over the past decade and they need to give it up and bring in someone better to do the job.
I still like the game though, just because it's such a pretty, well crafted world with so much content. Kind of how I feel about the latest Fire Emblem to a lesser extent, my complaints with tuning and areas of meek design is carried by the fact that the game is a shining ball of polish that makes it hard to put down.
It's also made up for by EO4, which is brilliantly designed AND a shining ball of polish, aw yiss.
I'd imagine all three yeah.
GhostOfLawlight
Banned
It can't be less than 117k since FE:A is not on the list.
JP only.
May 2002, down to $150. Second price drop was to $100, in September 2003.
I'm predicting at least -$50 by the end of the year. If not that, some nice bundles at the current prices of both SKUs.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Hmm...
So will it be Mario 3D or Mario Kart in October to accompany the savage price-slash?
It's too bad the quality has stayed the same.
shinra-bansho
Member
So:
[360] 302K
[PS3] ~255K
[3DS] ~190K
[WII] ~115K
[NDS] ~85K
[WIU] ~66K
[PSV] ~38K
[360] 302K
[PS3] ~255K
[3DS] ~190K
[WII] ~115K
[NDS] ~85K
[WIU] ~66K
[PSV] ~38K
You're acting this is exclusive to NT. PG never really had a major hit either up until MGR. Bayonetta had to crawl to 1mill and Vanquish barely made it to 750k. Would you call PG a studio with a poor track record?
this isn't a black and white issue. They aren't industry pariahs now, after making critically well received games, and publishers clearly want to continue to work with them. So they are doing something right,
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
I suppose less than 117k is alright for Sly. Not that inspiring, but alright.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Tameem must be one hell of a salesman because any other studio would've folded by now.
I believe I hit 240 before I started downsampling from 3800x1600 while injecting 8x MSAA and 8x SGSSAA. Still 60 after that, though.Well, not on MY version of the game -- it was well up over 100FPS at some points!
DmC pretty good game.
Not that bad considering the slow down from December to January. March should be very interesting for the 3DS.
No, you're grossly underestimating the amount of money third parties get per game.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
But the digital copy is already pre-loaded on the system, right? So the user would never go through the eShop to get to it. So it makes sense that its counted as a retail title.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Pretty sure DmC was over deadline. Also had to have a lot of extensive rework from Itsuno and co. Not exactly an ideal situation. Oh and all that Heavenly Sword bad blood with Sony/Cambridge bailing them the fuck out.
Wait hang on this is deep sarcasm I'm not detecting isn't it. Shit.
Warm Machine
Member
I would expect Reggie to leave on his own volition. He can only sell what he has been given and Nintendo of Japan makes most of the important decisions.
Reggie can get out now still having the success of the Wii behind him.
Reggie can get out now still having the success of the Wii behind him.
Um, yes? PG has a horrible track record. But I know why publishers choose to work with them these days: they're cheap, they're fast, and probably a little desperate. Maybe on both sides. Hello Nintendo pulling Bayonetta 2 out of the trash.
They ate an eclair off the top of the trash. Real talk.
There's no bad blood with Sony. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they hooked up again for a new bomba.
Can they afford a savage price cut? I guess its the less of two evils... not a good situation however.
MGR sold more in Japan on a single console than it did in America on two.
Fucking dudebros
The sad thing is that most of the dudebros won't even recognize who's in that gif...They're busy playing Madden.
Yeah EA explicitly listed the margin as about 60%, which is the same $36 a lot of other breakdowns have arrived at once you remove packaging/shipping, console license fee, and retailer margin.
Of course that assumes full price.
vlr did about 10k across both platforms its first month.
I am sure part of it is the negative backlash the game has received since its reveal. That amount of hate is going to leave some residual effect. I am also pretty confident that a lot of GAF that hates on it has never played it because that is what GAF does. The game has flaws, but the amount of hate it gets compared to its flaws is very disproportionate.
I have played all of the DMC games and really enjoyed it. I probably had more fun with dmc3 but it is miles better than dmc2. It has certain advantages over 4 like not having to backtrack for half the campaign. Id also rather play it over the original DMC, because I don't feel that it has aged very well. Sooo...dmc3>>dmc4>DMC>dmc1>>>>>>dmc2...something like that.
30fps vs 60fps doesn't bother me. It doesn't make the game feel "slow" to me. I understand this as a legit complaint, but don't think it is a cause for predetermined dismissal. People that act almost offended or insulted by this is really fucking weird to me...maybe I'm just getting old.
bigtroyjon
Member
and you're grossly underestimating the amount of money the publisher has to give back to the retailer to compensate for them slashing prices to get the games off the shelves.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
What else would you blame them for? (as a publisher). The game's were well received critically and any decisions made that hurt the game's sales were likely made with the publisher's consent, if not at their prerogative.
What I'm getting as is that is the poor sale shouldn't define the studio. PG did things well, and they got recognized by other publishers.
That's what I'm saying. It shouldn't end for them there -- PG clearly made a successful game now, and I do think NT has the chance to do that too. I was hoping DmC would do it, but fortunately the skills they picked up from working with Capcom will benefit them for whatever game they make next/
Warm Machine
Member
Are we really pretending Metal Gear is some important highbrow piece of art in comparison to Dead Space?