You're an awful human being.
210,000 for MGR. Should have done better. Disappointed in NA. At least Japan and Europe picked up the slack.
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NPD Sales Results for February 2013 [Up5: Dead Space 3, Crysis 3, Official PS3/WiiU]
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You're an awful human being.
210,000 for MGR. Should have done better. Disappointed in NA. At least Japan and Europe picked up the slack.
Truespeed
Member
You have a point. Microsoft should be more concerned about the inferior specs in their next generation console.
Pretty much. More profitable (or less unprofitable), and they get to say they have a sub-$300 version, even if nobody wants it.
How did the Xbox 1.5 do this generation?
WickedLaharl
Member
Warms my cold dead heart to see such justice served. I'm also glad that DS3 did well. It isn't as great as DS2 but it's still a good game and I would love to see a fourth entry.
Sony certainly could overtake MS in the US next gen.
These numbers, however, have absolutely nothing to do with it. Momentum across generations is virtually non-existent.
Thing is, traditionally gaming was niche and male so tech was more important. Gaming is so much broader now and that's what Nintendo want. Sure, focussing on tech like Sony has will get you the core market by default which isn't small but Nintendo want bigger. That casual market is also more profitable and less demanding.
I agree. Microsoft should be very afraid. At this rate the PS3 will catch up to the 360 in NA by let's say....NEVER.
And currently playing games on their phones, tablets and iPods.
Acquiescence
Member
Where did you get 210,000 from? Japan definitely picked up the slack but that market alone won't save it, and we've got no numbers for Europe yet.
MrChocolate
Member
This is the first generational shift which will feature online platforms, which to some (as yet unknown) degree, will bridge the older and newer hardware. That isn't something which should just be brushed aside in favour of citing historical precedence.
Huh? We've had UK numbers for weeks now, I thought. Those combined really aren't too bad. Considering what Platinum did with the 18 months they had on the project, I don't think the budget was that high. Certainly not more than DmC.
210,000 was a number thrown around earlier in the thread. cream sugar said above 190,000 and John Harker said it was 210,000.
No but this thread is about NA sales data.
That's a fair point.
However this month's console sales numbers still mean basically nothing when it comes to online accounts across platforms.
Sorry. I thought I was in a thread about sales in NA. Silly me.
MrChocolate
Member
Original quote
It doesn't mention NA... but I don't want to start a fight over something as silly as this
Original quote
It doesn't mention NA... but I don't want to start a fight over something as silly as this
It's all good.
CadetMahoney
Member
Does Sony still do PR releases in other places of the world (media create threads - South East Asia sales / Yurop Sonyland)?
Acquiescence
Member
That's not Europe, that's just the UK, and we don't know UK numbers either, just the chart placements. And I don't know what DmC has to do with anything. How MGR did relative to another hack 'n slasher doesn't change anything - if 210,000 is the best case scenario then even so, that's not very good for a game with the Metal Gear name attached to it.
How much did Peace Walker sell? How much did Metal Gear Acid sell?
It's not a Metal Gear Solid game. I think that makes a pretty big difference.
Platinum Games was brought in as a fixer. They worked on a broken game with a loose concept and turned it into a charting seller that plays very well. I don't think that anyone was projecting or expecting Metal Gear Solid numbers.
You were expecting MGS numbers for something that doesn't play like those games then?
I'm at my buddies place watching random miiverse posts by people on the main menu. It got me thinking...
Could sales of the wiiu end up being so bad that they would need to shut down miiverse? There are staff who are screening every post/drawing that people are constantly submitting. What if paying these people stops being feasable at some point?
Could sales of the wiiu end up being so bad that they would need to shut down miiverse? There are staff who are screening every post/drawing that people are constantly submitting. What if paying these people stops being feasable at some point?
Saint Gregory
Member
No, Reggie will just be demoted to Miiverse moderator as his part-time job to save costs.
lol that's great. and twisted.
Pachterballs
Banned
I think next gen, even with the specs, it will look quite comparable to ps4. Especially multiplatforms. Ps4 can just do more (if durango doens't up specs) and their 1st party stuff will look amazing
Personally, I was expecting good numbers. Not Metal Gear Solid numbers since that's looking at 5+ million and is a ridiculous expectation for a game without its iconic hero, but I thought the game would have a reasonable shot at going over 2 million at least. It's the first Metal Gear game on consoles since 2008, and it was on the 360 this time too. From the looks of it, it's probably going to limp to over a million. It's a pretty poor showing really.
Though, I don't think Konami will be in a position to complain about anything considering the disastrous development of this title before having to hand it over to Platinum.
Acquiescence
Member
I don't know how well those handheld exclusives with undoubtedly smaller budgets sold. Probably a lot better than they would have if they didn't have the 'Metal Gear' name attached to them.
I know it's not a Metal Gear Solid game. It's a Metal Gear game, ergo it takes place in the same world and features recurring characters, and Konami put the weight of that IP behind Rising in the hope that a recognisable name would turn more heads. The game did indeed sell and it did indeed chart, it just didn't do either very well where the U.S. is concerned it seems.
Never said I was expecting MGS numbers. I was just expecting better than the best case scenario figure of 210,000.
It never really looked that good though. This is coming from someone who didn't play it.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Very very happy to see Sly 4 chart, even if it didn't do that well.
It's actually pretty fantastic. You should check out some gameplay videos or play the demo. There's a reason a lot of GAFfers were excited to play it.
I was hoping for something in the upper 200K range, personally. But yes, it should have sold better, either as a Metal Gear title or not.
Zoramon089
Banned
Wouldn't that make more sense of the Vita? The WiiU is basically the fire still just barely starting, or maybe a torch that has just been knocked over
eighty(one)
Member
Yes, but the majority of gamers who are close to 25 - lived though a more Halo/COD centric gaming landscape, over the past 12 years. They approximate that experience as their gaming investment. Kids, preteens and teens are currently approximating COD and BF as their formative gaming experiences.
I'd argue many more are as engaged with Angry Birds, than they are Mario - and hence, Mario's appeal and Nintendo's siren song won't have a certain nostalgia - in years going forward.
I'd argue, that's already becoming evident, in the Western Hemisphere.
It saddens me that the gaming landscape is coming to this.
Games like Dragons Dogma, Fire Emblem Awakening, Sly Cooper or MG:R should appeal in a perfect world - but those experiences aren't familiar to a large demographic, in a way they once were.
ebullientprism
Member
Thats gotta be considered bomba for Crysis 3 right?
Shame, I really like Crytek and loved 1 and 2 (havent gotten around to playing 3 yet).
Shame, I really like Crytek and loved 1 and 2 (havent gotten around to playing 3 yet).
Manmademan
Member
I'm not sure that's true. momentum from the ps2 is the only reason Sony got away with charging 600 for a console.
anyone else including MS or Nintendo would have been the next 3D0 had they tried that
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
PS3 Launch numbers dropped pretty significantly though especially when compared to PS2. I don't think Sony ever 'got away' with the $599 price.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
your vita number is too high, no vita game came that close to 22k
Father_Brain
Banned
That's an understatement. Momentum from the PS2 is the only reason PS3's disastrous launch was at all salvageable, because it's what led third parties to invest so much in development for the platform before it even launched.
graywolf323
Member
that can't be right or it wouldn't have made it into the top 10
Sly is #9 while Fire Emblem did 117K at retail and didn't make it
Would 10k > Sly be more appropriate?
We know from creamsugar that Sly altogether sold more than standalone Fire Emblem (95k) bit it sold less than the Fire Emblem standalone + bundle number (117k), the bundle didn't count towards the NPD number so Sly charted but Fire Emblem didn't.
Quinton McLeod
Banned
Acceptable compared to what?
I'm talking about the holiday season. Not right now, obviously.
So, you don't even know half of the facts I'm telling you:
http://nintendoscene.com/2011/07/04/nintendo-building-new-rd-offices-near-hq-in-kyoto-japan/
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511321
and
http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/12/4089612/shigeru-miyamoto-interview-wii-u-3ds
a) It's only been two months, OK?
b) Consoles don't operate like your home PC. Saying the games run "better" says little of the hardware and more to do with the fact that the ports were rushed. Ubisoft's garbage PC port of Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition ran WORSE than the PS2 version. Does that mean my PC couldn't keep up with the PS2?
You don't know what I mean, because you don't understand anything about stocks and investors. When investors bail, it means they sell off all of their shares.
http://japandailypress.com/sony-stock-shares-fall-in-wake-of-playstation-4-announcement-2123829
and
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/122276-Sony-Stock-Drops-After-PS4-Event
Also, there's no money in the tablet/smart phone market for developers. Going in that route would be suicide for a lot of these companies.
That's a sign of trouble.
You're not denying these things....
Means nothing if you're still laying off workers and shutting down development studios.
It has more to do than just taxes, and taxes isn't even the major problem here. Taxes are actually the least of the problems Sony had.
Yeah... No.
http://phys.org/news/2013-02-sony-playstation_1_2.html
Never said it wasn't necessary. However, it's clear you got my point and you agree with it.
Ok. Then I think we're done here.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
can someone else verify that 117k retail for FE?
edit:
ahh, got it. the post below explains the discrepancy I was seeing.
Some of FE's 117k is from the bundle so it didn't count towards the top 10.
Manmademan
Member
right now they're tied ww or possibly leading the 360. that's a far, far better outcome than they deserved launching at that price, honestly.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
naw, don't compare what the bundle FE units did, to what the non bundle units did. the regular FE SKU didn't get that high