The Artisan
Member
this makes me think sony indirectly saved nintendo from something bad that was headed to them due to mS.
Haven't had a good laugh at PR like that MS one for a while.
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NPD Sales Results for February 2015 [Nintendo Numbers, Majora's, MH4, ~XB1]
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Dragonborn
Member
would Sony be able to keep up with demand at that price? And what would MS even do at that point, $199?
Dr Bass
Member
There have been two Februarys.
Wasn't PS4 still supply constrained Jan/Feb 2014? The YOY decline might be even greater had supplies permitted then.
ninjablade
Banned
I think the main reason for this, is that XB1 and ps4 are in a serous competition in the US. ps2 was destroying everything back then, with most big thirdparty games being exclusive, as for the 360 it was trouncing the ps3, games performed better, at a much cheaper price with a better controller. if you combined XB1 and ps4 sales you would see they are trouncing sales of ps3/360 combined sales last gen.
Yeah I Just saw her post in the prediction thread. I'm gonna miss her, she was a great poster.
Can anybody PM me regarding the "base"?
Gotdatmoney
Member
Well that's why I said software is an entirely different ball game
Talking hardware wise. You need solid hardware sales to build a good foundation to sell too. After that stagnation isn't as bad as long as software sales are healthy.
Welfare
Member
And?
Lets say they only gave this out in PR.
"Xbox One sold 276,000 units this February."
Alright, cool. We can add that number to a spreadsheet.
What does this tell an uninformed passerbyer? Is it doing better than before? Is that even a good number?
PR likes to make sure all news given out is positive.
pixelation
Member
$249 with five games, two controllers and two years of gold.
sörine;155760871 said:
I think it was until March or maybe even April. Still, YOY decline was an assumption I already made now that a good portion of the new gadget buzz has worn off.
You're being a bit obtuse here. The job of anyone drafting a corporate response to sales numbers is to shine the best light possible on their product. It's laughable to us because we're knowledgeable enough to read between the lines, but they wouldn't do it without a decent reason.
Effigenius
Member
People who are saying $299 for ps4 this holiday are insane. $349.99 is the best case scenario.
Yeah, $349 with some games packed in come November sounds good.
why? that's almost two years since release. even the ps2 dropped $100 before it was two years old.
FootballFan
Member
The Artisan
Member
has sony ever slashed the price of their console by only $50?
A year in 3DS was also trouncing DS. Four years in and it can barely keep up with PSP.
It's probably best to give things more time to get a clearer picture of PS4/One trajectories like Thunder said. They had record launches and great holidays but there are still concerning signs in the intervening months.
She's not being permabanned I hope.
If they did, it would've been the PSX or PS2 when they were dominating.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Nintendo is dragging every thing down so these comparisons are kind of misleading.
They could have just used a percentage and call it a day, it's silly when statements like that are made from a limited data pool, still doesn't touch the "fastest selling console of November" they pulled in the month Xbox One launched.
Well the PS4 is still outselling XB1 by a significant margin plus profit means a lot more now in 2015 to Sony than in 2002.
$299 is realistic, but I'll say $349 is probably where they'll put it at.
ethomaz
Banned
26% up if your 270k is accurate but I remember PS4 doing 285k last Feb.
every respective system placement is dragging everything down.
lol we're so desperate for numbers, why does NPD do this to us T_T
vpance
Member
Yeah they could keep up. Doesn't have to be a WW cut, maybe just US and UK.
As for MS I think they'll do a mega pack of H5, TR and AC at $289.
The Artisan
Member
and now. they're dominating now.
so everyone thinks it's more likely that they'll do $349 instead of $299 if anything this year?
i think people are really used to the shitty prices everything stuck at last gen. with microsoft this aggressive, i don't think it'll stick this gen.
plus, $299.99 is when a video game console is affordable. so i'm hoping the ps4 reaches that price point so i can get it at the absolute maximum i will ever spend on a console.
Chobel
Member
PS4 did 269K last February.
Effigenius
Member
Yeah, ps3 dropped from $299 to $249
EdReedFan20
Member
I think I heard this on Kinda Funny's Colin and Greg Live (it could have been somewhere else). It was speculated that maybe Sony could/should try to get timed (6 month) exclusivity from Bethesda with (the most likely be announced at E3) Fallout 4. But also brought up, was the fact that the system is selling so well, it might not be worth the most-likely exorbitant fee.
They have a history of dropping it $100 first, then following up with smaller drops as needed. Maybe the fact that their wallet is now significantly lighter makes a $50 drop more likely. Also, they had more competition early on during previous generations, whereas now it's hard to imagine MS ever catching up worldwide. Personally, I don't think you'll see a PS4 at $299 until a revised model (read: Slim) is released.
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Price_cuts
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Sony is slowly reclaiming the ground Xbox gained during holiday. By the Fall all that ground will be lost and probably more. Counting on Sony to be passive again isn't a smart bet.
Japanmanx3
Member
Wait what happened to aqua? And congrats Zelda and Xenoverse!!!!
Wow, Sony hype train can't be stopped. I'm hoping now that MS realizes how futile there marketing strategy is, damn another price drop is in order by E3. $299.99 Xbox One with Kinect is just crazy enough to happen now by Black Friday. Overall this gen had been lacklustre in games compared to last gen. More remakes are gonna be the norm now.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
It won't flop critically. If The Order just had average reviews it woild have done much better.
Seems like a lot of people think $399 is affordable. You have to consider the fact that markets change. $399 isn't the same as it was ten years ago when gen 7 was gearing up and now you have people spending upwards of $700 on phones and tablets.
The Order didn't release until the 20th. Given that and the fact that it's a new IP and I think it's doing quite well, especially in light of the critical beating it took.
nephilimdj
Member
I actually wonder how close Dying Light (retail and digital) would be to Majoras total number thanks to steam
I don't think so. The gap will definitely get bigger until the Fall but I don't think it will be as big as last year (which I believe reached 1.2 Million); I don't think there's anything coming for the PS4 before the Holiday season that will be as big as the Destiny release + special SKU last year.
The gap (NPD) is less than 700K now right? PS4 would need to outsell XB1 until the Fall by an average of about 100K per month for what you said to be true (that is, if my numbers are correct).
Nightengale
Member
I think Sony will rather bundle 3-4 games at 399 rather than go 349.
IMO, they're holding onto the $100 price drop headline.
The Artisan
Member
I would generally agree to this, although it must be great for sony that their console has been selling like hotcakes for so long for almost half a grand.
that wasn't their first price cut though. it was $599-->$499. then $499-->$399 and then finally $399-->$299 along with the slim shortly thereafter.
OK, so you personally believe that the first price cut will come with the redesign, akin to the Ps3's third price cut & slim redesign?
Good to see Xenoverse in the Top10. Best Dragon Ball game since Budokai (Tenkaichi) 3. I wonder why PC isn't listed as a platform for it, though.
Also great to see that MH4 has charted. Best MH so far imo, the added verticality and the monster rodeo really feel like they should have been in the series since the first game.
Finally getting the sales it deserves in the west ;-;
Also great to see that MH4 has charted. Best MH so far imo, the added verticality and the monster rodeo really feel like they should have been in the series since the first game.
Finally getting the sales it deserves in the west ;-;
Final Verdict
Member
So...
3DS = 395k
PS4 = 342k
X1 = 278k
WiiU = 94k
VTV > 30k
Vita < 30k
Is this right?
3DS = 395k
PS4 = 342k
X1 = 278k
WiiU = 94k
VTV > 30k
Vita < 30k
Is this right?
Welfare
Member
Slightly above 600k
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Yep Resistance 3 was great.