PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
giuliu said:
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NPD Sales Results for January 2009
- Thread starter EviLore
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Flying_Phoenix
Banned
I really wish we'd be able to see the top 20 like last NPD.
Haha self-owned, gold is valuable so you just stated that I'm worth something. :lol
HK-47 said:
Haha self-owned, gold is valuable so you just stated that I'm worth something. :lol
Dont know why im still responding to you but just a reminder for everyone.giuliu said:
-Nintendo gave us European hardware sales (From trackers) for ~80% of 2008.
-We have first 3 weeks of European sales in January for Nintendo
-Microsoft gives us regular updates of SELL THROUGH DATA from charttrack of how they are beating Sony (360 and PS3 data only from them, they ignore the Wii)
-We get regular LTD leaks in MULTIPLE european countries.
Some of the numbers there can change drastically once real numbers come out. A recent example I looked at was Nuts & Bolts which the site had at 430k for America. When NPD numbers came out, they 'revised' it down to about 300k. That amount of error margin is pretty big, and it still wasn't close to what NPD had. Also saw them lower the 360 number once actual shipments came in. It's a joke.omg rite said:
boiled goose
good with gravy
soldat7 said:
I agree. For some of them it might have been make one wii game and one HD game.
For some of them it would be make a core wii game instead of a core HD game. For some of them it could have been make a B level HD game with a B level budget instead of using an AAA level budget and then have it flop sales and review wise.
It will of course be different for every dev. What is completely obvious though is that a ton of cash was left on the table during the wii holiday season 08. Nintendo left it wide open and no core games came out from third parties. "B" level games like shaun white and call of duty 5 will end up being million sellers, but no one had the big holiday season game. (guitar hero of course also did amazingly well).
Chumly said:
No, I just want to get a picture of the sales age.
Why do we only get to talk about Japanese and NPD data?
we can take his data and subtract japan+npd and get a rest of the world sales trends.
I really want to know if the ps3 is beating the 360 in the rest of the world sales.
Conflict NZ
Member
legend166 said:
E.g, when Sony came out and announced 1.35 million LBP shipped, he had it at 1.9 million sold to end users.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
Mojo said:
As someone who use to be a regular to that site I can confirm this.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Mojo said:
The banned site might be "ok" for long term tracking since it at least changes the number to match the available npd ones.
It is clear though that their predictions and real time tracking are completely made up.
(cant even be used for WW numbers or smaller games that dont get NPD numbers released since they cant get europe numbers either)
Just some other examples for the month of december is that they had wiis sold almost a million above the npd number for december. they clearly make hardware numbers up as well...
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
Man all this talk about Nuts & Bolts flopping and seeing Skate II (though the first wasn't exactly "Blockbuster" and I admit I don't know the expectations for this game) and Lord of the Rings Conquest not doing so hot is really making me see how further this slippery slope the HD business model was carving.
I'm not stupid, your avatar's face is stupid.
HK-47 said:
I'm not stupid, your avatar's face is stupid.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
duk said:
I'm trying to spice it up but it isn't working.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
giuliu said:
square2005?
Some other great examples of Overtracking and undertracking are De Blob and Call of Duty WiiMojo said:
De Blob they had at 750k sell through until THQ said they only shipped 700k (LOL) now they have it at 550k or something.
Call of Duty Wii - There was a press release saying the PC,Wii,DS versions only sold 200k combined in november and since V g chartz makes up numbers they figured they better guess low. They had CODWII at like 100-150k or something for Wii in december when it actually sold like 400k (LOL)
Grampa Simpson
Banned
I'm sure I could find a few things to quote from Mama Robotnik's post history - they're always entertaining.duk said:
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
FF_VIII said:NPD is so predictable now
I demand meltdowns
Nah, it's just that people are starting to come out of denial.
As soon as E3 2006 came, the horizon was set as a very clear picture in terms of general direction.
It was always predictable, the next step is to change gaming. Even with these results, the old market has been incredibly resistant so far, that will probably be the next round of unpredictability. A new market has emerged and now all game segments need to come together in some fashion.
If you say the PS3 and hardcore gaming will win, you're not saying anything outside of conventional wisdom, that should have been a clue already.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
Excellent. My ignore list shall be clear again. I love it that never seems to take more than a few days anymore, but this has to be some kind of record.Chumly said:
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
It wouldn't be the first time I outed one of square's alt. accounts.HK-47 said:
EDIT:
Chumly said:
Wow :lol
DefectiveReject
Banned
Christopher said:
There's quite a few games with good use of the balance board now. And maybe as there is more range to it than just Wii Fit, more people are buying it. It's a pretty simple but amazing piece of hardware
When I heard a commercial for this on the radio this week I thought of Lance. :lolHK-47 said:
http://www.conferencealerts.com/seeconf.mv?q=ca1x8m0m
supermackem
Banned
Wii sales are the norm now, how does 360 and ps3 sales fair against last years in jan. Good numbers for jan imho sony need a price cut.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8733409#post8733409HK-47 said:
To be honest, that was more due to Square's own stupidity than any effort on my part.
supermackem said:
Year over year graphs for the 360, PS3, and Wii. 360 and Wii are up over 2008. PS3 is back to what it was at in January 2007.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
I'd rely on it for one thing - being a quick and easy source for some generalized data to refute the idea that either the PS3 or the 360 are the market leader. A couple of years back I used it to refute the idea that the PSP was the handheld market leader. It doesn't happen often, but it's way easier than telling someone that the proof is in a post on some forum.amtentori said:
It doesn't happen often, but when it does, it's useful.
Edit: Just re-read the post. I'm rambling. It must be late.
I suggest for a couple of months you follow up their weekly sales reports and compare them with NPD data (which BTW comes by sampling and polling retail outlets and is not pure estimate) and then come to your own conclusion.omg rite said:
I know I did.
And here's another thing. you have to pay for NPD data (a lot) and MS, Sony and Nintendo do pay. This should tell you something.
I have a good concept, but no photoshop talent, so here's another gif proposal:
Miyamoto and Iwata pasted into the "I'm On a Boat" music video - they're on the deck with T-Pain.
Meanwhile, Don Mattrick is making copies back at Kinkos, and the Jack Tretton is pulling a pink slip/parking ticket off of his windshield.
Flash back to the Miyamato, who is now riding on a dolphin ("doing flips and shit!") followed by a quick cut to Tretton taking out the garbage, getting splashed with water.
And then, for the coup de grace, when T-Pain is bragging of his experience with the mermaid, replace her head with Cammie's. Yum.
Miyamoto and Iwata pasted into the "I'm On a Boat" music video - they're on the deck with T-Pain.
Meanwhile, Don Mattrick is making copies back at Kinkos, and the Jack Tretton is pulling a pink slip/parking ticket off of his windshield.
Flash back to the Miyamato, who is now riding on a dolphin ("doing flips and shit!") followed by a quick cut to Tretton taking out the garbage, getting splashed with water.
And then, for the coup de grace, when T-Pain is bragging of his experience with the mermaid, replace her head with Cammie's. Yum.
(I might be sick in the head..)
Grampa Simpson
Banned
Understatement of the thread?HylianTom said:
Edit: Well, at least you didn't suggest that you were retarded.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
I don't know that anyone is actually disputing that for February. I think it's more of a level of amusement that's being anticipated at the different meltdowns that we might see. If it loses out to Wii Fit or Wii Play we'll get meltdowns. If it beats everything, but doesn't push any hardware, we'll get meltdowns, if it's Feb+Mar numbers get beat by Halo Wars we'll get all sorts of meltdowns. It's just promising to be very entertaining.Gadfly said:
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
:lol You might as well just add in "which is a FPS on the PS3" in there.Gadfly said: