Yeah, WiiU can't have made up that difference without outselling the Xbox One.
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NPD Sales Results for January 2014 [Up3: PS4/XB1 #1/#2 best selling; Poke/SM3DW/ALBW]
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Yeah, WiiU can't have made up that difference without outselling the Xbox One.
enanogrande
Member
So a Kinectless Xbone earliest in summer that will drop the price of the Xbone you're really skeptical about.
But a $100 price cut with all features as they currently stand by summer/early fall is a sure thing?
Do you even read your own posts before you submit?
I see no contradictions in that post. Do you think dropping Kinect is the only way to drop $100?
K. Doesn't change the fact that every PS4 rolling off the assembly line is quickly finding its way into someone's home. Demand exceeds supply and that's really all that matters here.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Wasn't it always expected to be second place? So, that's more or less expected. Doom? For a $500 machine that's off to a record setting pace, topped only, I think, by the PS4? That's not exactly an omen of catastrophe. I do agree, however, that possibly being outsold by close to double month after month isn't a particularly good look, and why I think a price drop will be very important for the Xbox One, but I see no immediate cause for alarm yet. And the PS4 supply constrained mantra is just a phenomenon I see on GAF. I've been to best buy and walmart various times this month and last, 3 times in just the past week for different reasons, and PS4s were always available. Are they as freely available as maybe the Xbox One seems to be? No, but an extra drive to a different store, and you'll find them without much hassle. My sister in law actually bought one for her son at best buy Tuesday as a surprise gift if his grades are good.
Exactly 10 PS4s have apparently been stolen at just this one best buy according to the guy working the door that asks to see your receipt when you're leaving, which is why there's now always no less than 3 employees keeping watch on the systems. Funny enough, I couldn't help but ask if any Xbox Ones had been stolen, and the answer was no lol. I'll let people speculate on why.
The Playstation beat the Xbox even in their stronghold while being supply contraint by a factor of 2, that's just crazy.
Sony really delivered and deserve the success. After Microsofts bad messaging and their original vision, there is some schadenfreude in seeing the big drop off in january.
Hope EA also has some sleepless nights over their new unprecedented partnership.
Still, both consoles sold well so the Wii U wasn't really a market indicator and I hope we can finally drop that narration.
Now the waiting game for creamsugar begins
Sony really delivered and deserve the success. After Microsofts bad messaging and their original vision, there is some schadenfreude in seeing the big drop off in january.
Hope EA also has some sleepless nights over their new unprecedented partnership.
Still, both consoles sold well so the Wii U wasn't really a market indicator and I hope we can finally drop that narration.
Now the waiting game for creamsugar begins
JinjoUnchained
Member
So is it time yet for the chalkboard?
Can't have the chalkboard without something minor that won't move the needle either way: Nas Illmatic 20th anniversary special.
Don't flame me, Nas is the GOAT MC.
Aaron Strife
Banned
When Microsoft named it the Xbox One, they were actually hoping to mimic the Xbox 1's sales trajectory.
Not really. 3DS sold ~145 in january 2013 with an extra week.
pieatorium
Member
wont be that long before its ww is surpassed, Japan wont be overtaken foe a while but the huge EU ps4 numbers vs the steaming crater of EU WiiU sales will more than make up for it
RedAssedApe
Banned
200-300K lead in US doesn't seem that bad. Titanfall can easily bridge that gap IMO. Not sold on Infamous being able to drive sales in the same fashion. We'll see if February repeats though as that will extend the lead further. I see them being about equal or PS4 having a slight lead after March
shinra-bansho
Member
At about 2M in Europe, it probably passed the Wii U last year.
People are forgetting that PC gaming is growing exponentially and could grow even faster with the Steam Boxes. I feel like Steam will make up for the loss of the Wii casual audience.
Mass Effect
Member
I don't know, I don't think those two matter nearly as much to the average consumer as you think they do.
You are right on the other three. With regards to the friends part, the early adopters tend to help set a precedent. If someone (a more casual gamer) has some "hardcore" gamer friends that have already picked up PS4s (or Xbones for that matter) then that person is more likely to pick what their friends already have. That's where sales now might come into play, just as an example.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Respawn can't be too happy
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Pick away.
I'm not being a fair poster if I can't learn something from someone else. And honestly I hadn't really thought about it. To a degree even packaged wares cost a lot more than they used too. I got Mass Effect 2 for $30 and after my DLC was tallied I still ended up paying over $60 for it. But I wasn't so much saying anything about big companies. They make big bucks by consolidating development around a few key successful franchise.
I was more talking that Indie devs don't implicitly replace those midtier developers of the PSOne era. Those devs back then were still shooting for the top (occasionally failing of course) but at least capable of keeping pace with the best of PSOne era visuals. Something small to mid tier developers lost the ability to do through the last generation. Budgets and expectations inflated too high. Smaller studios couldn't keep up so they either died or changed. A chunk just lowered their bar entirely. Instead of making titles that could compare with the best of the PS360 they became relegated to a bar spanning the NES era to Xbox. At a much lower price.
While there are more games being made today, most aren't shooting for the same level remotely.
And while this may seem judgmental it isn't. I laud any studio that can look past the fancy tech they want to use, and make a game they can afford to make.
It's a confusing point mind you. But I see a distinct difference between a lot of $50 games releasing like during the PS1 era. And the modern lots of $20 games from that tier of studio and a few on a whole other level selling for $60.
I hope that made any kind of sense and feel free to tear it apart or agree.
No, but it's a way to drop $100 without taking a big ass loss.
Didn't know 2013 had the extra week, but I thought 2DS/Pokemon would have it up YoY for a little longer.
This type of difference in sales when the popular games on each system so far have been the same should be telling someone at Microsoft that pricing matters. There doesn't even seem to be much point in Sony doing a lot in terms of first party software until they can ship more hardware.
Graphics Horse
Member
They'll be happy enough if they manage to migrate all the CoD players.
2007 had a 5 week January reporting period, this was a 4 week one.
TheRealTalker
Banned
man am I late for everything
too busy cooking 6 different meals
need to catch up.... did we get any hard numbers?
too busy cooking 6 different meals
need to catch up.... did we get any hard numbers?
gioGAF
Member
Probably because xbone boxes are much bigger, lol.Exactly 10 PS4s have apparently been stolen at just this one best buy according to the guy working the door that asks to see your receipt when you're leaving, which is why there's now always no less than 3 employees keeping watch on the systems. Funny enough, I couldn't help but ask if any Xbox Ones had been stolen, and the answer was no lol. I'll let people speculate on why.
Sword Of Doom
Member
They drop the kinect and they'll have to overhaul the entire UI. It's just gonna be a mess to use without the kinect and that'll just add to the negativity surrounding the console.
enanogrande
Member
Of course it is. But I'm still not convinced that they're not willing to take that loss, investors be damned.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Probably hiding somewhere like Greenland or Fiji
So you'd at least expect the PS4 and X1 to be higher as a result of less competition from it's last gen counterparts.
Gen-on-Gen at the same time this point in 2007, Last gen for the time is down on 2007, handhelds are way down on Jan 2007, current gen is down on 2007 without even accounting for the Wii, Console software is probably down. There's no good way to paint this, the dedicated console industry as of right now, is on a steep decline. Can it recover? Remains to be seen, but my bet would be on no.
Edit: 2007 was a 5 week month? Outlook still not so rosy, but I'll reserve my full judgement till next month.
shinra-bansho
Member
It's also why I really can't see Titan Fall doing anything, I have this weird feeling it's going to drastically underperform.
So you're saying you don't expect Sony and Microsoft's console hardware to return to a TTM of ~10M units?
Wasn't it always expected to be second place? So, that's more or less expected. Doom? For a $500 machine that's off to a record setting pace, topped only, I think, by the PS4? That's not exactly an omen of catastrophe. I do agree, however, that possibly being outsold by close to double month after month isn't a particularly good look, and why I think a price drop will be very important for the Xbox One, but I see no immediate cause for alarm yet. And the PS4 supply constrained mantra is just a phenomenon I see on GAF. I've been to best buy and walmart various times this month and last, 3 times in just the past week for different reasons, and PS4s were always available. Are they as freely available as maybe the Xbox One seems to be? No, but an extra drive to a different store, and you'll find them without much hassle. My sister in law actually bought one for her son at best buy Tuesday as a surprise gift if his grades are good.
Exactly 10 PS4s have apparently been stolen at just this one best buy according to the guy working the door that asks to see your receipt when you're leaving, which is why there's now always no less than 3 employees keeping watch on the systems. Funny enough, I couldn't help but ask if any Xbox Ones had been stolen, and the answer was no lol. I'll let people speculate on why.
I'd be surprised if anyone takes your anecdotal evidence with little more than a grain of salt given your post history and historical accuracy with these sorts of things.
But here is what the PS4 stock looks like right now based on actual tracking.
http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/ps4/
Here's the Xbox One's comparatively.
http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/xboxone/
There's a big gap between 360 and PS3 in the US. PS3 is in the 20 million range while 360 is in the 40 million. 360 will probably surpass Wii this Feb? Or maybe the next month.
pieatorium
Member
yes it more than certainly did, I'm saying ps4 EU will soon be > than Japan and EU wiiu sales combined
The only other time there was a wounded MS with Xbox was the original Xbox. It's not like they weren't loaded back then either. They did squat.
Aquamarine
Member
Bah, this thread could be twice as large if there wasn't an identical one saying the same statistics with less detail.
#Bitter
#Bitter
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
That's not going to happen though the same way Destiny won't migrate all the Halo players. COD is COD, Titanfall is
The Kinect is pretty important to Microsoft's plans and would take away one of things that sets their device apart.
Version 3.0
Member
Yeah, on the one hand, it's off to a record start (2nd place record, that is.) On the other, prior launches were more supply constrained, so who knows what the real demand of those past launches really were - plus last gen dragged on so long, the pent-up demand was huge.
On the one hand, it's selling well after all the (well deserved) backlash. On the other, 144k this month is meh. But it's $500. But PS3's first January was 100k higher, at $500/$600. But there aren't many game yet. But it has a pretty decent launch lineup vs. history.
...yeah, who knows what to think? Give it a year and we won't have to speculate any more.
Crimson_Gold
Member
I concur. He's by far the best.
Sony has impressive numbers. Should be interesting seeing how everything goes going forward
shinra-bansho
Member
Maybe a mod can merge them.Bah, this thread could be twice as large if there wasn't an identical one saying the same statistics with less detail.
#Bitter
Chobel
Member
X360 is going to be number one probably next month.
Aquamarine
Member
There are 2.61 million Wii U consoles "in North + South America" (shipped to retailers) as of the end of 2013.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
It's EA that may not be happy. Respawn already has their cash.
Please don't muddle this thread with good data. I am enjoying the tales from the ass over here.
Dragonborn
Member
I'm sure they are. If only there was some kind of sales clause that could let them wiggle out of it. Either way though, I'll just buy it on PC for now (when it drops in price) and wait for the sequel, which no doubt will be on PS.
I'd push it more towards MS.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Bah, this thread could be twice as large if there wasn't an identical one saying the same statistics with less detail.
#Bitter
Well, this one has more posts