But sell-through should be lower than PS4 now, right?
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NPD Sales Results for January 2014 [Up3: PS4/XB1 #1/#2 best selling; Poke/SM3DW/ALBW]
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But sell-through should be lower than PS4 now, right?
pieatorium
Member
theres probably sales bonuses they might not hit
Huh. I guess I thought it was way more for some reason. Guess I'm not up on my sales. Its just weird seeing Mario sales so low.
I don't know why SenjutsuSage even bothers. At this point, can he even hide behind his absurd objectivity defense?
Ok so I've been holding this comment made on an eurogamer comment section. This comment was posted by a user named DeViells 9 months ago, it goes a little like this...
Microsoft needs to take action fast, IMO if they want to push console sales, Drop the kinect, drop the price to 399$ before Titanfall hits stores and you'll get sales.
Ps. Please ignore 21 and 2
I don't know, I could be wrong but I feel like some of this are starting to come true
Microsoft needs to take action fast, IMO if they want to push console sales, Drop the kinect, drop the price to 399$ before Titanfall hits stores and you'll get sales.
Ps. Please ignore 21 and 2
theviolenthero
Member
So after 3 months we have:
XB1 at roughly 2 million and the PS4 at roughly 2.3 million?
XB1 at roughly 2 million and the PS4 at roughly 2.3 million?
Imperfected
Member
I think the true bomba here smuggled in under the sound and fury of a secondary explosion:
There was only one cross-gen game in the Top 10 where both current gen versions outsold both next gen versions. That games happens to be the game that most closely matches the target gaming demographic Titanfall is being marketed to.
Yeah, if I was Microsoft I'd be sweating fucking bullets seeing that. Looks like the arena shooter audience may not be as keen to trade up for better visuals as they hoped.
There was only one cross-gen game in the Top 10 where both current gen versions outsold both next gen versions. That games happens to be the game that most closely matches the target gaming demographic Titanfall is being marketed to.
Yeah, if I was Microsoft I'd be sweating fucking bullets seeing that. Looks like the arena shooter audience may not be as keen to trade up for better visuals as they hoped.
Really? I was under the impression Respawn planned to eventually release a PS4 version but were caught off guard by an exclusivity deal EA procured without their knowledge. The Respawn heads Twitter post seems to vaguely confirm as much.
enanogrande
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Anecdotal PS4 Supply aside, you're completely right the XB1 is still on a record setting pace.
Of course, Wii U was doing pretty well before its own massive January drop, so yeah I think this si something to worry about. Doom? Of course not - but not 'expected' by any stretch of the imagination.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Gotta credit Sony for remaining quiet about NPDs, considering their changed fortunes.
BrokenIcarus
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Wasn't it always expected to be second place? So, that's more or less expected. Doom? For a $500 machine that's off to a record setting pace, topped only, I think, by the PS4? That's not exactly an omen of catastrophe. I do agree, however, that possibly being outsold by close to double month after month isn't a particularly good look, and why I think a price drop will be very important for the Xbox One, but I see no immediate cause for alarm yet. And the PS4 supply constrained mantra is just a phenomenon I see on GAF. I've been to best buy and walmart various times this month and last, 3 times in just the past week for different reasons, and PS4s were always available. Are they as freely available as maybe the Xbox One seems to be? No, but an extra drive to a different store, and you'll find them without much hassle. My sister in law actually bought one for her son at best buy Tuesday as a surprise gift if his grades are good.
Exactly 10 PS4s have apparently been stolen at just this one best buy according to the guy working the door that asks to see your receipt when you're leaving, which is why there's now always no less than 3 employees keeping watch on the systems. Funny enough, I couldn't help but ask if any Xbox Ones had been stolen, and the answer was no lol. I'll let people speculate on why.
Really? You want to deny that the PS4 is sold out most of the times based on your anecdotal evidence?
That's great, but over here in Europe there's been no stock for ages!
http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/1195391_-playstation-4-ps4-500gb-sony.html
That's the stock situation for Germany, where the only one available is 79 more expensive.
http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/ps4/
That's the stock for the US, hardly "always available" as you say now is it? And these are just the numbers for January, we're not in the middle of february.
Be realistic here man, the supply constrain isn't some phenomenon on GAF.
Denying that only makes you look foolish imo.
shinra-bansho
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Realistically, EA/Respawn are plausibly still looking at maybe 1M units if it ends up with a really good attach rate. Probably closer to 500K with just a decent attach rate.
But I don't know whether they thought they'd be losing potentially that many sales in exclusivity when they considered the opportunity cost of taking Microsoft's money v. making a PS4 SKU. And the follow on effects with the PS4 installed base in not having the first game etc. for the franchise.
But I don't know whether they thought they'd be losing potentially that many sales in exclusivity when they considered the opportunity cost of taking Microsoft's money v. making a PS4 SKU. And the follow on effects with the PS4 installed base in not having the first game etc. for the franchise.
It does, Sunset Overdrive.
pieatorium
Member
ps4 will sell more than ps3
Simon Says
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Do we have actually numbers yet or still just estimates?
Dragonborn
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I agree, they need $399 for Titanfall. Waiting till after May will mean it's too late. The PS4 will be ahead and word of mouth will continue spreading.
I think Titanfall will have a huge attach rate on X1, but I don't think it'll move enough consoles to put the X1 on top in March. That is, of course, assuming Sony has their stock situation fixed. If it's still constrained then I could see them loosing out again.
pokeystaples
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If you like your console and the games on it, why would it be a waste? Even when the PS3 was dead last I never thought I made a mistake. There was always something for me to play. The console you like doesn't have to be the bestseller. It just needs to play the games you like.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Are people intentionally distorting facts just to have better meltdowns?
Welp, love it either way. Keep it comin' people...
anexanhume
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Yes. Presumably the WW gap grew by at least this month's margin given foreign sales rates.
theprodigy
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waiting for Nintendo number leaks
how badly did the Wii U bomb this time
how badly did the Wii U bomb this time
I think it will outsell anything that Sony publishes for a while, but nearly every cross platform game selling more on PS4 cannot be a position Microsoft thought they would be in. Really makes EA look stupid, for obvious reasons.
Unless EA was dumb I am sure they have sale expectations for the game in the contract that if not reached MS has to pony up lost profits.
Do you really think Respawn is that naive after all the bitching they did about Activision? Zamp and crew knew what they were getting into by taking money from EA. If they didn't then they are really fucking obtuse.
And it's not like Titanfall would be the game to demonstrate that - it looks like straight festering ass on Xbox One.
He didn't say that his opinion is definitive. It's not his fault that you fail at reading comprehension.
krypt0nian
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Wasn't it always expected to be second place? So, that's more or less expected. Doom? For a $500 machine that's off to a record setting pace, topped only, I think, by the PS4? That's not exactly an omen of catastrophe. I do agree, however, that possibly being outsold by close to double month after month isn't a particularly good look, and why I think a price drop will be very important for the Xbox One, but I see no immediate cause for alarm yet. And the PS4 supply constrained mantra is just a phenomenon I see on GAF. I've been to best buy and walmart various times this month and last, 3 times in just the past week for different reasons, and PS4s were always available. Are they as freely available as maybe the Xbox One seems to be? No, but an extra drive to a different store, and you'll find them without much hassle. My sister in law actually bought one for her son at best buy Tuesday as a surprise gift if his grades are good.
Exactly 10 PS4s have apparently been stolen at just this one best buy according to the guy working the door that asks to see your receipt when you're leaving, which is why there's now always no less than 3 employees keeping watch on the systems. Funny enough, I couldn't help but ask if any Xbox Ones had been stolen, and the answer was no lol. I'll let people speculate on why.
Dude, you know when we click you name we can read your post history, right? I mean, seriously?
Mt Heart Attack
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Wow I wasn't expecting the tide to change so fast in favour of the PS4 in the US. Eentually it was bound to happen though when you sell a superior product for a lesser price.
I remember a thread on GAF some two months ago where people were predicting lifetime sales for the two consoles and I was shocked at how many gaffers thought the two consoles would sell similar figures. It was clear then and it is even more now, MS needs to turn it around if they wanna stay competitive, and fast. They're going the way of the WiiU in Europe, and atm the One doesn't seem so hot in America either. Cutting the price by at least 100$/ might be a good start.
I remember a thread on GAF some two months ago where people were predicting lifetime sales for the two consoles and I was shocked at how many gaffers thought the two consoles would sell similar figures. It was clear then and it is even more now, MS needs to turn it around if they wanna stay competitive, and fast. They're going the way of the WiiU in Europe, and atm the One doesn't seem so hot in America either. Cutting the price by at least 100$/ might be a good start.
gigantor21
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Can't really blame publishers for not seeing this coming in the States, considering it's been a strong point for MS from the beginning. It'll be interesting to see how exclusivity deals and such will be handled from now on, though.
he would choose Tomb Raider Xbox One every time after seeing the videos of both dude. Stop the hate.
All joking aside, it's spin time. What do you expect the diehards to say? They got nothing, they were holding onto the December numbers as proof of something lol
Quadraphonic
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jiminycracken
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As it's been pointed out the Xbox LTD is 26 mil, not 40 mil. I didn't intentionally distort that fact, I just pulled it from what I remembered and what I remembered was wrong. Happy?
shinra-bansho
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I think there's not a lot of doubt that Titan Fall / Titanfall (which of these is right, I forget?) will be a profitable investment for EA.
The question is whether it would have been a more profitable title were it multiplatform even taking into account whatever Microsoft paid.
Suzushiiro
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Keep in mind that they probably saw PS4 outselling XBone as a likely outcome at the time they upgraded the deal to full exclusivity, and factored that into their calculations when they took the money. I'm going to guess that MS threw enough money at them that the loss relative to if they had released on PS4 won't be all that much.
This might accelerate the release of Titanfall 2, though.
Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't but it's not a healthy outlook for the industry if everything else goes down.
That was a good response lolPeter Moore bringing down the ethers on Sony GAF.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Exactly 10 PS4s have apparently been stolen at just this one best buy according to the guy working the door that asks to see your receipt when you're leaving, which is why there's now always no less than 3 employees keeping watch on the systems. Funny enough, I couldn't help but ask if any Xbox Ones had been stolen, and the answer was no lol. I'll let people speculate on why.
Thieves steal the most valuable product. News at 11.
Sony GAF? Really?Peter Moore bringing down the ethers on Sony GAF.
Denial is the first stage. Don't embarrass yourself and tell me these are good numbers. The PS4 numbers are ok, but everything else is horrific.
You mean, everything on Xbone will sell less than on PS4? How is this not a good outlook?
Coulomb_Barrier
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So WW totals are something like 5 million for PS4 and 3.4 million for Xbox One?
Syphon Filter
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In theory xbox one numbers in Feb will be lower correct? Usually Feb is down vs Jan since jan has last minute shoppers and stuff from the holidays right?
Quadraphonic
Member
I imagine it'll be along the lines of: "The smart fans were waiting for the Titanfall console bundle." Or "The PS4 is only sold out because people are just buying them to scalp them not to play them." (Using the "Xbox* sells more games" line to enforce that)
But apparently the second game is still due for a PS4 release.
What if... there is some kind of minimum sales clause.