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NPD Sales Results for January 2014 [Up3: PS4/XB1 #1/#2 best selling; Poke/SM3DW/ALBW]
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gundamkyoukai
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Markets can't expand forever and losing certain users that did not buy certain games do not matter to those companies which should make games for mobile also .
Companies can also make more money with the same user base thanks to DD even if market not split even of course this also depend on how big the decline going to be if there is one .
Truth is part of the market problems are companies with there 50 to 100 million advertising budget and bad management .
You think with social media it would be much cheaper to show off your game .
Hoho for breakfast
Member
I disagree that the industry is fucked as some may say. To me the Wii was like a Tickle Me Elmo or Beanie Babies or basically a cultural phenomenon. It comes and it goes. This one just happened to be a video game console. So brushing that off, sure some sales are still lost to mobile and yada yada...but not enough to be so doom and gloom about. It's going to be OK.
PS4 should dominate this entire gen, and I think Xbox is in some trouble but they'll be ok and same for Nintendo this year. Nintendo needs to get rid of the Wii U though and release a new console hopefully next year.
PS4 should dominate this entire gen, and I think Xbox is in some trouble but they'll be ok and same for Nintendo this year. Nintendo needs to get rid of the Wii U though and release a new console hopefully next year.
Also I feel like developers have been targeting the "casual" crowd for like 7 years or whatever. Maybe that was a good idea all that time ago but maybe 7 years of "casual" players playing CoD has trained them to be fucking good at controlling a character and getting comfortable with what a game is.
It's time these developers try developing something a bit more challenging. That's why I find Titanfall interesting. It's appealing to the CoD crowd but adding the wall jumping traversal which is going to make it more difficult than CoD to get used too. But I feel after these people have been getting better and better at these games over the years, their ready and happy to move on to something with a *bit* more strategy.
It's time these developers try developing something a bit more challenging. That's why I find Titanfall interesting. It's appealing to the CoD crowd but adding the wall jumping traversal which is going to make it more difficult than CoD to get used too. But I feel after these people have been getting better and better at these games over the years, their ready and happy to move on to something with a *bit* more strategy.
Yankee Ruin X
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Do these number take into account digital game sales?
Yeah we've had an overall trend of the number of games tanking and the remaining games selling more per game.
However, the rate at which games are disappearing is greater than the latter.
People keep asking where the announcements are, but frankly major publishers are just putting out 2-5 games a year with few exceptions, so the handful of titles we have, the expected annual games, and maybe a few others is all we're getting as far as AAA retail.
They'll generally sell great, but what constitutes the "mid-tier" has had its roof raised tremendously and its floor has only went up a bit (to about the ~$20 indie game level at tops with a few exceptions).
No, the industry is going up if you count digital, but a lot of that is mobile, DLC, and f2p games.
Not as bad as the non-holiday months last year without games.
The Power Of Snap
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I think people forget that the ps2 had great games until 2007 and was cheap with a huge backlog.
In relative terms, PS3 and Xbox 360 are ancient. This is a drop in hardware (and associated software) sales that probably would have happened already in the past few years if Great Depression 2.0 hadn't delayed everything to an extreme degree.
Publishers that haven't been able to print (and hoard) money with big annual franchises like Activision and Ubisoft over the extended hardware cycle are probably the ones that need to worry, because nobody in their right mind should expect PS4/One to offset drops in PS3/360 software sales for at least 18 months (if not longer). The zombie hardware cycle we just got out of is going to hurt anyone who was hoping it would last even longer.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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shinra-bansho
Member
Any expansion this gen won't be from the US, it will be from BRIC, which doesn't really bode well for Microsoft probably considering their performance outside of the Anglosphere has been underwhelming.
Randolph Freelander
Member
When has that ever happened? Or is that the joke?
LittleJohnny
Banned
Pretty damn big drop, but to be fair, that's to be expected after the holidays. I'm sure the PS4 had a big drop too, even if not as big.
I also don't really expect BRIC to become a notable console market.
They're already very entrenched in F2P on PC and mobile and those offerings are notably improving in quality and popularity already.
creamsugar
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Cow Goes Moo
Member
they should update that list, it's at least double that by now :/
cebri.one
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BRIC bubble is exploding as we speak. Forget emerging markets.
My mistake it was AC2. JD made Ubisoft a ton of money allowing them to work on some AAA titles.
And_Gignac
Member
more like RIC. Arent Brazil retail prices for consoles absolutely insane?
pieatorium
Member
got dAMN
Steve Youngblood
Member
You're ignoring the future: Quality of Life non-wearables.
Lot's of people didn't go out and buy consoles since it was so cold out.
Just wait till spring and things will really pick up.
Aquamarine
Member
Not right now.
However, NPD is actively working to bring real digital numbers into their data available for clients. They first did a test-run of it in December 2013.
Oh fuck
The Hermit
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haha they link to this thread http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459131
Gaf>internet>gaf at its best
HOLY fuck
Console games =
ambientmystic
Member
Holy shiet lol.
This is subjective of course. For me, they already have.
Wii U outsold 360 and maybe PS3? Am I reading this correctly? That the biggest news of the thread. Wow.
Wow... -.-
Yeah, I fixed the Kotaku link since the Gaf thread was more recently updated.
Valkyria
Banned
Wut?
shinra-bansho
Member
Ouch. Okay, I give up. Market dead...
PS4 is the last bastion before we succumb to our mobile overlords.
maneil99
Member
Read my post,
Plus most of those devs made games that flopped, you could have a 500 million unit install base, bad games still won't sell
shakin_haitian
Banned
Ummm... the Wii had all the CoDs other than Ghost.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
People really need to stop debating the decline of the console business based purely on US numbers.
outunderthestars
Banned
They already have. Alot of PSN/XBLA games have filled the place that mid tier games did by selling 500,000 - 2,000,000 copies via digital distribution. You might not care for those games, but they are certainly filling the void that the death of mid tier disc games left behind. State of Decay sold over 500,000 in its first week if I recall....
Shiieeeeeet.
Aquamarine
Member
Wii U: 57K last January.
TheOnePercent
Member
It was nice knowing you, video games. We had some good times.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Another example, Jak & Daxter had a budget of $14 back in 2001. I can't find numbers for other games but $14 isn't cheap.
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And_Gignac
Member
Gaming emergency.
And lol at Nintendo still believing there´s a market for health gadgets/software.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Yeah, but that was a five week January. I'm sure the weekly average is up this year.
Imperfected
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Well at this rate last-gen has pretty much dried up, the Vita and Wii U are still ultra dead, and the 3DS is not very healthy by a long shot.
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