Not like it will be any better in Japan compared to the good old days. Maybe the EU will have a lesser drop off than NA and Japan.
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NPD Sales Results for January 2014 [Up3: PS4/XB1 #1/#2 best selling; Poke/SM3DW/ALBW]
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Not like it will be any better in Japan compared to the good old days. Maybe the EU will have a lesser drop off than NA and Japan.
theprodigy
Member
Wha? I am reading this right, right? That Mach means much right? >.>
I'm shocked that the 360 sold under 30k to say nothing of anything else.
Hey remember when mirosoft said this
I love the fact that we are reactive and agile in that way. We remain true to our vision digitally and physically and we are genuinely in an enviable position versus anyone else in being able to deliver that. I wouldnt trade places with anybody.
Good times, good times
I love the fact that we are reactive and agile in that way. We remain true to our vision digitally and physically and we are genuinely in an enviable position versus anyone else in being able to deliver that. I wouldnt trade places with anybody.
Good times, good times
Yes.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Damn and Damn once more. Where is the next-gen gta?
Liquid_Bike
Member
Wow things are really looking bad sans PS4.
US is the single biggest market in the world, no?
Japan is already dead home console-wise, so if Europe didn't suddenly double it's console sales then what are you trying to say?
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I really dont like these kinds of things. It was shitty last gen and the gen before. It's also shitty this gen.
Exactly. There were a lot of anomalies in the last generation that aren't likely to be repeated.
#1. Wii U will not sell 100 million.
#2. A console will not dominate without taking marketshare away from its competitors. We can see this with PS1 and PS2. The console that dominated left its competitors in the dust. With the Wii-- it dominated and yet both of its competitors are catching up and could* surpass it. If the PS4 does sell 100 mil or more -- we can expect the Wii U and Xbox One to sell half or less than half that number (as was the case with the PS2).
#3. Last gen started 8 years ago. -- There should be a demand shift away from the old gen and towards the new one.
We might see a repetition of gen 5 or 6. The end is not nigh.
I sort of agree with this. With the Wii, it was healthy for Nintendo and that was about it. Third parties were still dependent on the HD twins and for quite awhile there PS2 as well. I think the ability for 3rd parties to survive is what really gauges the health of the industry. With PC making a bit of a comeback, and studios able to bring in money from the mobile markets as well as the PS4 and Xbox One having big initial sales, it is hard to compare past trends. Nintendo is sort of always an anomaly in the industry.
Wow...
Aquamarine
Member
And again, Wii U January 2013 - 57K.
So Wii U is down YOY when you directly compare NPD months (yes I realize one is 5 weeks and the other is 4 weeks).
I'm not saying anything about whether or not Wii U is up or down YOY when you make the appropriate adjustments.
Art Teitlebaum
Member
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
... and emerging markets.
When put like this, it's very worrying. Is it a consequence of unrealistic budgets? Tablets? Spurned casuals? AAA homogeneity?
creamsugar
Member
IGN Nintendo SW numbers should include digital, but without bundle.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
What an interesting NPD. We all knew that January would be the real test, and it seems like the next-gen race really is already clearly decided in all markets. PS4 showing great momentum in North America while Microsoft has a LOT to be worried about with the Xbox One.
Microsoft's Xbox One design really was just completely awful from the start. Kinect's 2010-2011 years gave Microsoft way too much confidence in its ability to continue to push consoles, and that was the same exact time that Microsoft was designing the Xbox One.
The brief Kinect fad, which was much less intense than the Wii phenomenon, is over. Microsoft should have been reading the market signals from the unprecedented collapse of the Wii to see that Kinect would be the next one to be quickly forgotten in the closet of unused gadgets.
Yes, getting rid of Kinect and reducing the price to match the PS4 will certainly help, but you're also left with a console that's still inferior to the PS4 and has nothing unique to distinguish itself. Before going all-in with Kinect, Microsoft should have had some truly killer app software...but as we all know, that has never materialized for Kinect. It can never be used for core games, and the voice control features can be done with just a microphone..
The end result is that Microsoft is going to suffer substantially this gen; they will be a distant second in all major markets, they will gradually lose Xbox Live memberships, their software sales will erode, and unless Sony manages to mess up their positioning for next-gen and beyond (doubtful given the lessons learned from the PS3), their entire videogame ecosystem is now in question.
The best Microsoft can hope for is that when they drop the price and release Halo, that they'll reach sales parity, or close to it, in North America...but for the rest of the world, they can pretty much forget about it.
I really don't think Titanfall is going to do much. The game looks like it's hardly going to be an improved experience over the 360 version, so I don't see any current-gen 360 owners that are price-conscious being wooed into buying a $500 Xbox One just to play the game in 792p vs. 720p or whatever the 360 version ends up being.
Microsoft's Xbox One design really was just completely awful from the start. Kinect's 2010-2011 years gave Microsoft way too much confidence in its ability to continue to push consoles, and that was the same exact time that Microsoft was designing the Xbox One.
The brief Kinect fad, which was much less intense than the Wii phenomenon, is over. Microsoft should have been reading the market signals from the unprecedented collapse of the Wii to see that Kinect would be the next one to be quickly forgotten in the closet of unused gadgets.
Yes, getting rid of Kinect and reducing the price to match the PS4 will certainly help, but you're also left with a console that's still inferior to the PS4 and has nothing unique to distinguish itself. Before going all-in with Kinect, Microsoft should have had some truly killer app software...but as we all know, that has never materialized for Kinect. It can never be used for core games, and the voice control features can be done with just a microphone..
The end result is that Microsoft is going to suffer substantially this gen; they will be a distant second in all major markets, they will gradually lose Xbox Live memberships, their software sales will erode, and unless Sony manages to mess up their positioning for next-gen and beyond (doubtful given the lessons learned from the PS3), their entire videogame ecosystem is now in question.
The best Microsoft can hope for is that when they drop the price and release Halo, that they'll reach sales parity, or close to it, in North America...but for the rest of the world, they can pretty much forget about it.
I really don't think Titanfall is going to do much. The game looks like it's hardly going to be an improved experience over the 360 version, so I don't see any current-gen 360 owners that are price-conscious being wooed into buying a $500 Xbox One just to play the game in 792p vs. 720p or whatever the 360 version ends up being.
jiminycracken
Banned
I stand by other post.
fastford58
Member
Aye carumba at the globally low numbers....scary
shinra-bansho
Member
TTM will still be flat or up at least, unless they really tanked and couldn't even sell 60K.Whoops, PS360 couldn't even hit 110k
sadface.
LinkMaster111
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if it's less than 5k at this point. Realistically it's probably closer to 10k though.
What's happening in this world???
ethomaz
Banned
I agree and we had the best launch consoles of all the time just months ago... I can't see that decline people are sawing.
Good to know.
Jesus Christ those are some terrible last gen numbers
Steve Youngblood
Member
I'm keeping with the bright future that Cranky represents.
Aquamarine
Member
Wii Fit U retail sales (23 days of tracking)
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I think we will need one of those for the industry itself D:
Wii Fit U?
Wii Fit U
Wii Fit U.
Wiifitu lol.
pieatorium
Member
wii fit u
It's not a parody post. I've been consistent on this point. I especially have been very consistent in my absolute contempt for the, "Indie games don't count," crowd. Those people can go get fucked while the industry burns.
I like you.
Should they use the even worse Japanese numbers or the non-existent European ones?
Unless software gets a hell of a lot cheaper don't count on emerging markets. We have heard that before from places like india last gen. I see mobile and PC free to play dominating emerging markets.
Gaming emergency.
And lol at Nintendo still believing there´s a market for health gadgets/software.
There is a market but not on a video game console, which is where they are taking it
gundamkyoukai
Member
Truth is what people cal mid tier a few gens ago are indie games now and it was going to happen because of better tech .
I do wonder what you would call mid tier from lets say the PS2 generation .