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NPD Sales Results for July 2007
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Whipped Spartan
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So all I know is Konami has to have a MGS4 in the works for 360. Making PS3 only games for third parties at this stage is retarded. I think NCAA's 156k is the 1st top 10 3rd party game for PS3 and 3rd top 10 game ever behind Resistance and motorstorm.
Region-FreeWii
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I have nothing to add. I just wanted to post in a legendary thread. I haven't posted in a while.
Whipped Spartan
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MrNyarlathotep said:
In some strange way that makes sense.
That's just too late. Decisions about allocating resources for the big mid-generation games are being made right now, many will be decided by the end of the year. Sony can't wait.sonycowboy said:
I think they may have to sacrifice the US to save Japan. Their only salvation is 360's great weakness, the system's inability to provide the large Japanese publshing houses with a market of extablished consumers in the home market. If they can hold onto some portion of the Japanese development talent they may be able rebuild their userbase in the US. Eventually. But not in 2007.
Visualante
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Only a week or two tops.minus_273 said:
Am i crazy or everyone bashing Sony, when the real console in trouble is the xbox360?
Xbox:
- Virtually dead on japan (which is key not only because of sales figures, but for software too)
- Selling about the same on NA and probably less than ps3 worldwide.
- Huge problem with the 3rl issue
- Lost (or about to loose) market share leadership to Wii
Ps3:
- Sales picking up steam
- Sells reasonable well on all 3 major markets (NA, Europe, Japan)
- outsells Xbox by about 100k a month on japan
- Blu-ray gaining terrain over hd-dvd
- Have a gamming company behind it that knows how to push a console (see what happened to PSP)
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Does Ps3 have it share of problems? It sure does. But it sure isnt the only one in trouble.
Xbox:
- Virtually dead on japan (which is key not only because of sales figures, but for software too)
- Selling about the same on NA and probably less than ps3 worldwide.
- Huge problem with the 3rl issue
- Lost (or about to loose) market share leadership to Wii
Ps3:
- Sales picking up steam
- Sells reasonable well on all 3 major markets (NA, Europe, Japan)
- outsells Xbox by about 100k a month on japan
- Blu-ray gaining terrain over hd-dvd
- Have a gamming company behind it that knows how to push a console (see what happened to PSP)
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Does Ps3 have it share of problems? It sure does. But it sure isnt the only one in trouble.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23960.html <-- want this game so much
Wyndstryker
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Tmac said:
Both systems have their issues.
It's just that Sony had a lot of things going for it this NPD and it still couldn't crack the 360's numbers whereas the 360 not so much.
Sho_Nuff82
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MrNyarlathotep said:
I'd say the 360 is more like the Sega Genesis, which became the default sports console for most devs and gamers, had tons of classic games, and enjoyed a healthy early lead and some months of neck to neck sales with the SNES here in the states before being trampled in its later years. It also flopped in Japan and did respectable in Europe. I can see the 360 following a similar sales pattern, minus 32xing the console in 2010.
Tmac said:
You're crazy. No one's threatening to cancel 360 projects if sales don't pick up. Because software sales are insanely healthy for nearly every game thrown at the platform. For 3rd parties those are the only numbers that matter.
I can't wait for the Madden numbers.
Visualante
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This depends vastly on Halo 3. Is everyone prepared, or have they waiting for the Halo 3 limited edition?Tmac said:
Whipped Spartan
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Tmac said:
Look at the software sales on the system^^
3rd parties have a reason to support it.
Shalashaska
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How did the Wii sell so many systems in 1 month? That's insane.
sonycowboy
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The Sphinx said:
Decisions have already been made and Sony is behind projections, but not nearly as much as you may think they are. Publisher's, by and large, were pissed about the original retail and have been prepared for muted sales for both the 360 and PS3 this generation.
I don't see the high tech developers deciding that they should be using years old technology to make most of their games, and they're leveraging their bets across the PS3 and the 360 because of development costs.
Thinking that the PS3 is going to be abandoned based on current sales is foolish. Thinking they'll not get exclusives and lose some of the ones they have has already been happening since launch.
Tmac said:
I agree with your general point, but the problem for Sony is they started a year in the hole. They can't just be even with the 360- they have to start beating it consistently. Also..the software sales are anemic compared to the 360's. That spells trouble.
FortunateSon
Banned
So updates anyone?
I still say Sony is in no way in trouble or doomed. Guys we got a long way to go. Excluding the Wii.
You guys acted as if Sony didn't know this was going to happen when they priced their console.
They fully expected it.
I still say Sony is in no way in trouble or doomed. Guys we got a long way to go. Excluding the Wii.
You guys acted as if Sony didn't know this was going to happen when they priced their console.
They fully expected it.
Zerodoppler said:
My collection of 6 Wii games says otherwise.
Oh, and like everyone else has said, Trauma Center and RE4 say 'Hi'
Hopefully Dewy and Zack and Wiki will do well, too, since Konami and Capcom need a reason or two to pull their heads out of their asses (Capcom especially).
The Sphinx said:
But was anyone really expecting Sony to perform exceedingly well compared to the 360 this year in the US though?
I mean, most of us knew that the PS3 won't have a good software lineup by the end of this year. But the 360 did.
The best that Sony can hope for is their early 2008 lineup to do well.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
This argument is still being made? How does that explain Japan then, which has the highest HD penetration of all the markets and has had the PS3 at the cheapest price for the longest time period?haunts said:
Cue "no games yet" here...
BenjaminBirdie
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Tmac said:
360 has the best selling software title this month. After being thoroughly trounced by the console market leader. That's a rather elaborate feather to have in one's cap, and next month the software REALLY starts rolling in. They're making, ostensibly, the most money for publishers, which is an enormous positive. PS3 is making not as much for publishers.
sonycowboy
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driley said:
Don't blame NeoGAF for my sins. They're innocent. I've been burned in effigy on many sites. This particular person is likely one of the new breed of "reverse psychology pretend biased posters" that are in vogue.
Set up a ridiculous straw man that has no reason, associate it with the enemy, and take down the enemy with ridicule. It's gaining popularlity.
http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/ - I think this is the leading edge.