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Wii 425 k

Is it possible Nintendo moved some of its hardware from other regions (Japan especially) to the US this month?

I thought it was weird that Wii sales in Japan dipped a bit recently (and then rose again), and now with this massive increase in the US it seems to suggest that a shift might have occurred.

Maybe Nintendo wanted to put another nail in the coffin for Sony and MS in the US, since the market is Japan is all but accounted for?

 

[Grecco]

:lol Why are people killing their accounts? I just dont get it

Being Banned sucks

 

[Merovingian]

So updates anyone?

I still say Sony is in no way in trouble or doomed. Guys we got a long way to go. Excluding the Wii.

You guys acted as if Sony didn't know this was going to happen when they priced their console.

They fully expected it.

Don't worry. Nobody is doomed here.

Doomed here is just a way of saying "Owned", and Ps3 is being owned that's all. Don't worry, it's just GAf talk.

Ps3 will do just fine. Somehow this make me hope for a next gen where MS does the software side of the console and Sony the hardware. I mean why not? Get Live and the MS api on it, and let Sony design the hardware. It would be cool if this industry went that way, like the home video.

 

[Polari]

This thread wanst that epic. You just wasted a good account. You wont be missed.

"should start looking for proxies"

 

[titiklabingapat]

But was anyone really expecting Sony to perform exceedingly well compared to the 360 this year in the US though?

I mean, most of us knew that the PS3 won't have a good software lineup by the end of this year. But the 360 did.

The best that Sony can hope for is their early 2008 lineup to do well.

5 million consoles sold without games.

 

[minus_273]

I don't ever post here, but I feel I had to do this to be part of this epic thread. Enjoy.

Bye guys.

how can someone see the thread title, read it, click on it then post this?

 

[Phthisis]

Is there any way we might get numbers on Project Sylpheed for July?

 

[speedpop]

I still can't believe people are still spewing the "wait for such-and-such game!" excuse.

They did it for the N64. They did it for the DC. They even did it for the GC/Xbox. Look where those consoles went.

 

[OokieSpookie]

Bye guys.

Yep

 

[Sypher]

"should start looking for proxies"

Yeah, i got red'd, but atleast mine was manly.

 

[Saoh]

You guys acted as if Sony didn't know this was going to happen when they priced their console.

They fully expected it.

so, you're calling Sony stupid... right?

i think someone who compared certain game to Halo and Bioshock must be a wee bit sad right now.

 

[Deku]

Wii got a 100$ price cut?

 

[spwolf]

360 has the best selling software title this month. After being thoroughly trounced by the console market leader. That's a rather elaborate feather to have in one's cap, and next month the software REALLY starts rolling in. They're making, ostensibly, the most money for publishers, which is an enormous positive. PS3 is making not as much for publishers.

except that PS2 is making much more than both .

Sony doubled sales in Japan and USA... Sony am doomed

 

[SRG01]

5 million consoles sold without games.

And we're certain that the upcoming software will be system movers?

It's looking pretty bleak...

 

[Visualante]

simpleton for the win! more balls than i have.

 

[TrueReligion]

Wow @ PS3 sales. :|

 

[sprsk]

......simpleton........

Sorry, guy, but you're getting banned.

Bye guys.

I think he knew that.

 

[jgkspsx]

the Wii has gone from zero to hero amazingly fast, from a business stand point this has to be unheard of....I can't think of any company that goes from last place on life support to sold out in 1 generation cycle

Nintendo stayed financially extremely healthy and robust last gen despite the relative failure of the GCN. That's not exactly life support. The GCN didn't tank in sales until Nintendo pulled support for it, which they did very drastically.

Edit: I'm an idiot, nevermind. Pretty impressive sales for PS3 NCAA!

 

[sonycowboy]

I still can't believe people are still spewing the "wait for such-and-such game!" excuse.

They did it for the N64. They did it for the DC. They even did it for the GC/Xbox. Look where those consoles went.

Look at the DS...

Wait a second.

Seriously though, we've never had a 3 tiered pricing situation like this before, so it's very hard to use history as a guide. It gets harder and harder to conceive that the PS3 will be able to overtake the other systems, but the pricing also makes it impossible.

Also, the N64 had a very, very serious run at the PSOne. I think you should study the history a bit more.

 

[Plinko]

Wow...PS3forums is just an absolute barrel of laughs. At least there are some (albeit not many) voices of reason on there. Here's my favorite post:

Tyrien:

"Wii just mysteriously sells millions, but no one really cares about it. To be honest mentioning Wii sales numbers is really pointless."

 

[schuelma]

Look at the DS...

Wait a second.

Seriously though, we've never had a 3 tiered pricing situation like this before, so it's very hard to use history as a guide. It gets harder and harder to conceive that the PS3 will be able to overtake the other systems, but the pricing also makes it impossible.

Also, the N64 had a very, very serious run at the PSOne. I think you should study the history a bit more.

- What are your thoughts re: Wii third party support? From your comments it seems that you find it unlikely that publishers will really go all out for the Wii. Is that correct?

 

[wonderfuldays]

Wii on TOP, OMG......:lol

 

[Whipped Spartan]

Yea N64 had like over 45% market share. People keep acting like it got crushed

 

[mr stroke]

I'll ad my 2c. I bought a PS3 at the end of July, so I'm terribly surprised to see such low numbers from Sony. The Paramount announcement is even more important now because the allure of blu-ray is quickly eroding. Blu-ray is one of the main reasons I picked up the PS3. The 360 price cut is more 'fresh' then Sony's and MORE importantly is being supported with a slew of software - Bioshock, Madden, Halo. Crushing defeat. I don't know how Sony will survive this fall. After Lair, Heavenly Sword, & Warhawk come out next Month - that will disappear before Christmas.

Ya it looks pretty bad for Sony this Holiday....

AND even IF Sony drops the price another 100$ will people really spend 150$ more for a system with out Halo and almost the same games?

 

[DCharlie]

okay - the PS3 being outsold by the X360 after the "price drop" cannot be good news for sony.
Surely next month is going to be even worse for them too on the PS3 front?

 

[TheKurgan]

Wii numbers are amazing. There are no good games on it, who buys it?
360 numbers seem pretty stable but still not stellar
PS3 - can't believe they didn't beat the 360 given the hype of a price cut (shit I almost bought one). They are going to get slaughtered next month when the 360 price cut hits the market.

 

[avatar299]

I'm sure this has already been answered before, but has the wii passed the 360 yet World-Wide?

 

[michaeld]

Dont worry about the wii owners, they will grow up soon and buy a PS3 in the end.

anyway, NPD is noT even TOP 10 IN market research companies. SOURCE-npd AT RANK 14

Not only that, these are stats and information that can be changed with a little of money. Every one can collapse its moral with a big amount of money, I doubt $M didn't pay some $ tu rise their sells in NPD charts.

Once Lair and Heavenly Sword come out, I wouldn't be surprised to see numbers of 300K+ a month.

looking at this makes me say that ms is using replacements as sells

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Frillen]

The PS3 has only 3 weeks since the price drop plus the price-drop leak forced people to wait so I think the PS3 sales is ok.

:lol :lol

I can't tell if it's a joke post or not :lol

 

[gkryhewy]

Xbox:

- Selling about the same on NA and probably less than ps3 worldwide. PS3 sniffs 360 sales for one month and they're selling about the same? It's losing ground every single month
- Huge problem with the 3rl issue Doesn't seem to be hurting sales, and not anymore
- Lost (or about to loose) market share leadership to Wii They don't care

Ps3:

- Sales picking up steam Let's see next month
- Sells reasonable well on all 3 major markets (NA, Europe, Japan) No, it hasn't
- outsells Xbox by about 100k a month on japan It rarely hits 100k per month in Japan
- Blu-ray gaining terrain over hd-dvd Irrelevant for gaming, and have you been reading the OT?
- Have a gamming company behind it that knows how to push a console (see what happened to PSP) Come on.

 

[schuelma]

I'm sure this has already been answered before, but has the wii passed the 360 yet World-Wide?

Unofficially, I think we all (meaning us keeping track of sales) say yes. Its hard to say exactly because exact Europe numbers are still a mystery..but using leaked and reported numbers, then yes.

 

[sonycowboy]

:lol :lol :lol

Bringing over stupid posts from another forum? Probably not a good idea.

 

[Whipped Spartan]

Seriously though, what does Sony have going for it that we know about besides their name? MGS isn't a system seller in the real world.

 

[DyTonic]

Wait for next months numbers to be BIOSHOCK'D.

 

[Fuzzy]

Also, the N64 had a very, very serious run at the PSOne. I think you should study the history a bit more.

Maybe he could if he had the data to look at.

 

[michaeld]

I'm enjoying their pwning, it's that much sooner I can get a cheap PS3 for BR:lol

 

[BravoSuperStar]

just keep dropping the price sony. These numbers show there is certainly interest in the PS3, its just held back over a few key issues.

 

[SRG01]

Seriously though, what does Sony have going for it that we know about besides their name? MGS isn't a system seller in the real world.

First party titles (ie. GT5)

 

[Dies Iræ]

Wii numbers are amazing. There are no good games on it, who buys it?

Oh shit, arent we passed this? It's been almost a year.

 

[Livin_Lovin]

So, when will PS2 stop being a formidable console? Hell, when will any next-gen console top it?

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

Not that this is going to be the final nail in the coffin or anything, but if these very strong trends continue on like everyone thinks they will, I think the future of the industry will change in a big way.

So what's gonna happen then? I imagine both MS and Nintendo will try to replicate Nintendo's immediately profitable, under $300 console strategies.

Problem is that... how much exactly can $300 buy in 5-7 years? Especially when the value of the dollar keeps shrinking?

 

[jsrv]

Wii 425 k

Is this the highest NPD number for the Wii so far?

 

[Pachael]

Yea N64 had like over 45% market share. People keep acting like it got crushed

It got crushed later, though the focus was on the even more crushed Saturn. And the GC wasn't much better against PS2 competition. What does it matter - we should be celebrating the Wii phoenix - the past is gone for all now, it's the present and future we should be talking about

 

[DoubleTap]

Wii numbers are amazing. There are no good games on it, who buys it?
360 numbers seem pretty stable but still not stellar
PS3 - can't believe they didn't beat the 360 given the hype of a price cut (shit I almost bought one). They are going to get slaughtered next month when the 360 price cut hits the market.

I think you hit the nail on the head a lot of people almost bought the PS3 last month so it almost beat the 360.

 

[dextran]

The only thing that can save Sony is Gran Turismo. It's one of their few exclusives that still wows AND is mass market. Lair, Heavenly, Warhawk - all niche stuff.

 

[Whipped Spartan]

So, when will PS2 stop being a formidable console? Hell, when will any next-gen console top it?

Never, if Sony was smart they would make another revision to the system and keep supporting it as a Wii competitor.

 

[Sapapayo]

- Blu-ray gaining terrain over hd-dvd Irrelevant for gaming, and have you been reading the OT?
- Have a gamming company behind it that knows how to push a console (see what happened to PSP) Come on.

Can someone give me a link to the paramount thread please ?

(sorry about the off topic)

 

[Kuramu]

:lol Why are people killing their accounts? I just dont get it

Being Banned sucks

Because some people are willing to fight for what they believe, even for something as trivial as the once monthly fun of NPD threads. The ban on gifs is lame and I'm majorly disappointed in gaf for doing it.

 

[laserbeam]

So, when will PS2 stop being a formidable console? Hell, when will any next-gen console top it?

Theres a Next Gen Console beating it out every month or rather a current gen console. You may not be a fan of it but that doesnt change the facts

 

[goldenpp72]

yeah I am to, the npd threads had a unique balance before, but ever since the npd crackdown it's gotten pretty boring.. and now this.