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NPD Sales Results for July 2009
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PopcornMegaphone said:
if it cost less to develop, its not going to be the same game. that is the issue.
Basileus777
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Danthrax said:
I don't think there is much to consider. Capcom has made it pretty clear that Okami failed to reach their expectations.
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Sleeker said:
good library.
good steady release of new games.
price drops to keep increasing the people you can target.
and not so high to begin with.
Just wondering, does anybody know whether the 360 was declining last year? Since it was out 1yr before could it be possible its staying stable because it already had its decrease.
What I mean is the Wii is obviously coming down to "normal" console levels, so if next year it becomes stable at the 200-300k range it will not be down YoY as we are seeing now
Isn't that the reason the 360 began its price drops in the first place last year?
What I mean is the Wii is obviously coming down to "normal" console levels, so if next year it becomes stable at the 200-300k range it will not be down YoY as we are seeing now
Isn't that the reason the 360 began its price drops in the first place last year?
Danthrax said:
Of course it bombed. Just as MadWorld bombed. Justifying the poor sales with the "niche title" card sounds a bit silly. Especially if MadWorld gets its "niche title" status just because of the art style. Which in addition is not exactly from outer space. I think games like Killer 7 have way more chances to put people off because of its graphical signature.
OldJadedGamer
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a Master Ninja said:
OMG I totally forgot about that picture. You have made my night and now I can finally get a good nights sleep.
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Raist said:
oh, okami bombed.
madworld is niche because it is a score based brawler with ultra violence. (not just standard video game violence)
it is made from a niche developer. makers of okami and god hand , but with a new name now.
madword is a new IP.
i thought the artstyle would be appealing, not off putting actually.
Raist said:
i agree. i think its more the unknown IP, unknown genre, unknown dev. that contributes.
i do think the artstyle of both games would make them seem more unique and interesting.
CultureClearance
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jman2050 said:
I already explained what they're doing and what the other companies aren't doing. Most of it is smart investing. You break down business to its core and it's just taking money and giving it back in a way that will give you more. but here's some things that they have done recently mostly well for their long term outlook (and I'm not necessarily saying that the other two haven't done most of these things) -
Keep it steady. Get a long-term fan-base and don't take them for granted. Create a long-term brand aka let them know you're not going anywhere. Get lots of new ips that you can make sequels for in the future. Be a company people want to make games for. Show them there's money to be made by making products for them. They are your friends, not enemies or slaves. Keep a slow but steady output of old ips from the past and don't rely entirely on them. Keep the prices competitive. Pick up companies that have promise...be the first to shake their hands when they enter the party and last to shake their hands when they're leaving the party. Pick up companies that your competitors use against you. Reinvest into yourself. Have faith in your own future endeavors. Don't sit on your money. Invest in 3rd and 1st parties. Give your customers what they want by first listening to them - Updates, netflix, downloadable games, xbla arcade, avatars, things like that. market (aka reinvest). Dabble into the unknown but don't dive in, take advantage of the shortcomings of your competitors. When they trip, you froggy hop right over them. Don't trip! Don't let them hop over your back when you do. Show that you give a rats ass about your fanbase and the industry...be a "good guy" in the industry the best you can with the least amount of self-sacrifice. Play to win, don't play like you're already winning.
They're big miss-step this gen was and is the hardware issues. But they did a half-way decent job of keeping it quiet while appeasing the masses with the extended warranty. It was still a big big mistake for their brand loyalty. But Microsoft is keeping the eye on the prize regardless... nice steady improvements over time.
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Mr.Potato Head
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I predicted this would happen two years ago..lawblob said:
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CultureClearance said:
microsoft should hire you. then they would have spin like sony does.
have you seen what has happened in the few gens this industry has seen? complete total turn arounds from one gen to the next. microsoft has done a good job increasing its marketshare in two generations but so did Sony from PS1 to PS2.
PS2 24,112,000 (45-month mark) (June 2004)
PS2 18,080,000 (33-month mark) (June 2003)
Xbox - 9,361,402 (33-month mark) (July 2004)
Xbox - 12,500,000 (45-month mark) (July 2005)
GCN - 7,673,241 (33-month mark) (July 2004)
GCN - 11,122,000 (45-month mark) (July 2005)
360 15,683,786 (45 months) (July 2009)
360 10,749,000 (33 months) (July 2008)
PS3 8,035,896 (33 months) (July 2009)
Wii 20,817,781 (33 months) (July 2009)
PS2 18,080,000 (33-month mark) (June 2003)
Xbox - 9,361,402 (33-month mark) (July 2004)
Xbox - 12,500,000 (45-month mark) (July 2005)
GCN - 7,673,241 (33-month mark) (July 2004)
GCN - 11,122,000 (45-month mark) (July 2005)
360 15,683,786 (45 months) (July 2009)
360 10,749,000 (33 months) (July 2008)
PS3 8,035,896 (33 months) (July 2009)
Wii 20,817,781 (33 months) (July 2009)
"Casual Fad fans" would already have the system and not be a consistent source of new sales.
Its amazing how quickly the doom and gloom always starts on the Wii yet with the 360 and Ps3 its always been oh its just price point saturation etc.
Guess what the Wii is pretty much at its Pricepoint saturation point the only difference is it managed to sell 50 million units before that point instead of 20 or whatever
Its amazing how quickly the doom and gloom always starts on the Wii yet with the 360 and Ps3 its always been oh its just price point saturation etc.
Guess what the Wii is pretty much at its Pricepoint saturation point the only difference is it managed to sell 50 million units before that point instead of 20 or whatever
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Mr.Potato Head said:
I predicted that sales of the wii console would decrease at some point in the future.
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Pokemon the only "core" game in the top 10? Nice.
SatelliteOfLove
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Mama Robotnik said:
How do you DO this every month? :lol
SlipperySlope
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Zhuk said:
It wasn't last quarter.
x Power Pad Death Stomp x
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Sonys problem is price and Ps2 bc.
It's really easy to forget on a video game forum or even in our real lives where we insulate ourselves with people who know their shit, but when Monty Mindless Masses comes into a store and sees two systems where one is 200$ and one is 400$, they have 90% the same games, their exclusives have equivalents (Halo/Killzone) and all their ps2 games are worthless either way...they buy the 360.
Add in Ps2 bc and at least that shows a value to that customer looking to upgrade. Cut the price even 25$ on top of that and it would be a huge, huge step.
Also, anyone thinking Rock Band Beatles is going to be a megaton hit is nuts. It will do ok, maybe even well, but giant sales #s and saving the Music Game Genre is not going to happen. Just like any band specific release, there are just as many people who don't like the band as do, this one comes with the added stigma of being an "old persons band" and having a 250$ bundle price.
It's really easy to forget on a video game forum or even in our real lives where we insulate ourselves with people who know their shit, but when Monty Mindless Masses comes into a store and sees two systems where one is 200$ and one is 400$, they have 90% the same games, their exclusives have equivalents (Halo/Killzone) and all their ps2 games are worthless either way...they buy the 360.
Add in Ps2 bc and at least that shows a value to that customer looking to upgrade. Cut the price even 25$ on top of that and it would be a huge, huge step.
Also, anyone thinking Rock Band Beatles is going to be a megaton hit is nuts. It will do ok, maybe even well, but giant sales #s and saving the Music Game Genre is not going to happen. Just like any band specific release, there are just as many people who don't like the band as do, this one comes with the added stigma of being an "old persons band" and having a 250$ bundle price.
Raist said:
I'm too lazy. The PS2 has been outselling the Wii this year if you align them from launch. It's just that the Wii was outselling the PS2 by a much crazier amount much earlier.
The opposite happened with the DS. The DS started off -very- slow and really started to take off like crazy in the last two years or so.
Scottlarock
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damn, first 5 million will buy it without any games huh?AniHawk said:
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The Wii has sold well over 20 million (in the US alone), and it's done so without a single price cut or SKU change. The reality is that the console is much closer to market saturation than either of the HD Twins are, and it's only natural that the Wii would eventually start slowing down at some point. With that said, I think Nintnedo is going to be very strong in the coming months. Wii Sports Resort will have ridiculously long legs, Wii Fit+ will have healthy sales throughout the holidays, and New Super Mario Bros. has a very real chance of being the biggest game of the year. Moreover, I really wouldn't be surprised to see these games lingering on the top ten in the middle of 2010. These three games could all be described as "evergreen" titles and I could see each one reaching worldwide sales of 10 million in their lifetimes. Of course, Nintnedo could also spike interest in the Wii by introducing new colors or dropping the price. If Nintendo would release a black Wii in North America in time for Christmas, I guarantee that the console would be the "must have" item for the fourth year in a row. In any case, I think the Wii has a very bright future ahead of it.
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AniHawk said:
Oh good, you again have nothing constructive to say about my post.
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it would be very strange if nintendo does manage to have 6 evergreen titles in the wii alone.
Imagine a slow NPD month where Wii play, wii fit, wii fit +, mario kart wii, wii sports resort, and NSMB wii are all in the top ten.
that would be insane.
Nintendo is becoming way too powerful.
Imagine a slow NPD month where Wii play, wii fit, wii fit +, mario kart wii, wii sports resort, and NSMB wii are all in the top ten.
that would be insane.
Nintendo is becoming way too powerful.
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AniHawk said:
SlipperySlope said:
That was one quarter, over a fiscal year the division has been profitable for a few years now. Furthermore it is well known that the Xbox division does turn profits however the Zune and WinMo business usually run at losses which eat into any profits the Xbox division makes under the Entertainment and Devices division.
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Gouty said:
hope you bought little kings story....
Gouty said:
There are quite a few great games coming out this year.
Depends what your tastes are and what systems you own. 2010 is bigger, but 2010 is a direct descendant from the royal 1998 bloodline (every 3 years since 1998 usually see that generation's best games). It's to be expected.
Gouty
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No doubt there will be great games this year that will make loads of cash, but 09 is looking to be pretty lackluster overall. I bet even the ones that sell well will be under expectations. Fans of X game sequel coming out this year will tell me Im an idiot and that I shouldnt be bored but I bet 09 sales will tell my tale. Again, look out for 2010, its going to be monstrous.
timetokill
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What is the over/under on how many months Wii Sports Resort stays in the Top 10?
I think Wollan drew this after E3 '06 to show his personal feelings about the consoles - PS3 would be the obvious winner, 360 was just barely able to compete with PS3 graphically at the time, but didn't have long-term potential, while Wii was supposed to be a total piece of crap and loose even before the generation started..OuterWorldVoice said:
Aaron Strife
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It's not really a prediction when you keep saying the same thing over and over again in the desperate hope that it will one day come true.Mr.Potato Head said:
Is it too late to spew obscenities at the US gaffers for not buying Little Kings Story? I mean, sure, it looks cutesy, but that's just a ruse. The first major thing you do is go to the south and exterminate the black guys (!!!) because their king sent you a letter of challenge ("You suck"). It's a quest for world domination, no holds barred. Buy this game you idorts! 
Anyway, thanks for the numbers, as always.
Slow month, Wii is getting dangerously close to the 360. I hope this puts Nintendo under pressure. A cornered Nintendo is a Nintendo that makes the good shit. Nintendo in the lead is a bad idea, in comparison. But that' just my $0.02.
Anyway, thanks for the numbers, as always.
Slow month, Wii is getting dangerously close to the 360. I hope this puts Nintendo under pressure. A cornered Nintendo is a Nintendo that makes the good shit. Nintendo in the lead is a bad idea, in comparison. But that' just my $0.02.