If we consider N64 and GC failures, then we have to consider every home console after the 16-Bit Era and before the seventh generation was a failure besides the PS1 and PS2... Actually, considering the dominance of the Atari 2600 in the second generation, the NES in the third generation, and the assumed dominance of the PS4 in the eighth generation, it looks like having two or more competitive home consoles in a single generation like the SNES & Genesis or the Wii, PS3 & 360 are aberrations compared to the eras when a single console is completely dominant like the Atari 2600, NES, PS1, PS2, and likely PS4.
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NPD Sales Results for July 2014 [Up1: 3DS LTDs, Wii U LTDs, Tomodachi]
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If we consider N64 and GC failures, then we have to consider every home console after the 16-Bit Era and before the seventh generation was a failure besides the PS1 and PS2... Actually, considering the dominance of the Atari 2600 in the second generation, the NES in the third generation, and the assumed dominance of the PS4 in the eighth generation, it looks like having two or more competitive home consoles in a single generation like the SNES & Genesis or the Wii, PS3 & 360 are aberrations compared to the eras when a single console is completely dominant like the Atari 2600, NES, PS1, PS2, and likely PS4.
With PS4 still seemingly selling well (in order to hit 10m in < 9 months), is there a risk they'll be in short supply during the fall? Seems like they've been selling through 1m per month consistently since the start, which was estimated to be their production capacity. Or will they ramp up production? That could have an impact on whether Sony or MS come out on top during Oct/Nov.
unknownstranger
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They've likely slowly saved some stock since about May. The cost of producing PS4's since launch has gone down which might mean they added more production. I am expecting some shortages for smaller countries this fall though.
This would be best case scenario
Aquamarine
Member
Who says we're not getting anything?
SwiftDeath
Member
About the last 10 pages or so
StarlordDial
Member
Hey Aqua, how much does it cost to get a pdf copy of the NDP report from NPD?? Can't GAF, just kickstart a campaign for the real numbers and report, so that you and cream aren't obligated to release numbers adter a certain time frame??
Ottoni_Bastos
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~$10,000 per month and the signing of a non-disclosure agreement making you liable if you share it.
Nightengale
Member
They should be able to divert whatever stocks generally part of tier 3 for the next few months to build up capacity for fall.
Wouldn't "tier 3" typically be developing areas of the world that would be targeted in late, late gen for adoption? Wouldn't think those would be getting PS4s, yet, but rather being sent PS3s. There's not stock shortages anywhere in the world that I know of, so there should be plenty of stock slowing building up month-to-month combined with Sony's typical calendar Q4 heavy shipping to cover holidays unless PS4 becomes the next Tickle-me-Elmo. :O
Bummer, but whats the point of a report if you can't share it?? The gaming industry should be transparent. Its not like MS or Nintendo will suffer lower sales if consumers are influenced by low numbers of there consoles.
NPD thinks sharing the report will cause less people to subscribe.
She's an NPD girl in a NeoGAF world?
Mysterious
Banned
Why?
SwiftDeath
Member
PS4 is now available in 100 countries and regions. Some of those have got to be tier 3 I would imagine
The reason NPD can sell it is that companies can determine their investment and stock purchasing based on the sales data seen. It's about making money for the buyers of the report. Us amateurs just in it for the fun of seeing how our favorite games sold don't enter into that equation. Too bad, too, as the Japaneses sales tracking market is wonderfully filled with public data, in comparison. Makes for some great discussions in those threads, and that on a weekly basis.
Oh, didn't know that. Yep, would have to be. Although, has Sony even used the term "tier #" countries or was that just Microsoft?
Nightengale
Member
I live in tier-3, so lol at you.
Also, we get Vita TV first because we actually buy Vitas.
SwiftDeath
Member
Sony hasn't publicly to my knowledge but internally I'm sure they have a classification system
What is this Vita thing?
Nightengale
Member
South Asia and the likes.
Aka countries in the neighbourhood of Singapore not named Singapore.
Tier 3 as well. I believe PS4 released here first before Japan. So that makes Japan on tier > 3 ?
Femmeworth
Banned
Good for The Last of-
Oh.NPD said:
Nightengale
Member
Japan is tier 2015, aka the games we care about are 1+ years late from hardware launch.
Those regions strongly favor PS, don't they? I know that for sure in the Middle East. I think they got PS4s last year. I don't know about XB1s though.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
Blah! Give us numbers. Whole NPD is meaningless without some numbers!
Nightengale
Member
We favor piracy.
Order of market share :
PC + pirated games > Jailbroken 360 > PS3 > 360
But yeah, officially speaking, we're pro Playstation in general.
And we are getting their game in 2016, if they even bother to translate their game to English.
I think so, it's rare to see Xbox family* console over here.
You're missing pirated PS2 and pirated PSP, both at first and second place.
wapplew
Member
Because the game is something special and many people coming to the playstation echo system hadn't played it. Also others who have played it, love the game and want the best version.
There it is. If you can't understand that, you are being obtuse.
MisterGrey3000
Member
One could argue that a lot of the non-Atari/NES/Genesis/SNES/PS1/PS2/360/Wii home consoles were basically total failures in the long run. Machines like the Intellivision and TurboGrafx-16 never really amounted to anything in the long haul, and they generally sold way lower than their counter parts (Outside of the 7th and 4th gens the outcomes are always very "PS2 vs NGC and Xbox"-like as far as I can tell.)
It's quite fascinating; video game history is short, but man is it interesting.
Aquamarine
Member
Okay so it's the dead of night and barely anybody is paying attention to this topic. Perfect time to make a comment about NPD sales...
At the start of the next page.
At the start of the next page.
Oh yes.
Kresnik258
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I didn't realise this was today!
Could do with some numbers though.
Could do with some numbers though.
pieatorium
Member
50ppp or 100ppp?
Three replies left.
Oh god I'm ready.
Aquamarine
Member
NPD July sales:
PS4 - 187K
XBO - 131K
I was dead on with my Xbox One prediction of 132K
Compare with last month:
NPD June sales:
PS4 - 269K
XBO - 197K
Adjusted for 4-week differential:
NPD June sales (if 4-weeks):
PS4 - 215K
XBO - 158K
Correlation with Callahan's PR statement:
PS3 LTD as of July 2007 - 1.61 million
360 LTD as of July 2006 - 2.21 million
Combined 9-month total = 3.82 million
PS4 LTD as of July 2014 - 3.76 million
XBO LTD as of July 2014 - 3.05 million
Combined 9-month total = 6.81 million
% change from 3.82 million to 6.81 million is 78.27%.
Ergo, sales of the newest consoles are larger than the prior generation by "close to 80%."
I'm going to sleep now. I'll say more tomorrow.
PS4 - 187K
XBO - 131K
I was dead on with my Xbox One prediction of 132K
Compare with last month:
NPD June sales:
PS4 - 269K
XBO - 197K
Adjusted for 4-week differential:
NPD June sales (if 4-weeks):
PS4 - 215K
XBO - 158K
Correlation with Callahan's PR statement:
PS3 LTD as of July 2007 - 1.61 million
360 LTD as of July 2006 - 2.21 million
Combined 9-month total = 3.82 million
PS4 LTD as of July 2014 - 3.76 million
XBO LTD as of July 2014 - 3.05 million
Combined 9-month total = 6.81 million
% change from 3.82 million to 6.81 million is 78.27%.
Ergo, sales of the newest consoles are larger than the prior generation by "close to 80%."
I'm going to sleep now. I'll say more tomorrow.