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NPD Sales Results for June 2009
- Thread starter EviLore
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Maybe I missed a few threads but what's with GAFs obsession with The Conduit?
Flying_Phoenix
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GitarooMan said:
No.
The Faceless Master said:
...so you REALLY believe that it won't move an extra 28k in 2 weeks or so?
Pureauthor said:
If this is really true than...:lol @ Gaf.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
What disappointments me about The Conduit's sales is mostly to do with the size of the installbase. Yeah, 9 days compared to 3 weeks, and average reviews potentially damaging sales via word-of-mouth, but the Wii's installbase is so damn high you expect some kind of guarenty.
And sadly, The Conduit really hasn't 'proven' a point either way. It could have legs like CoD:WaW and prove that an installbase is there, one that was wary of quality, or it could prove that the fabled 'core' installbase just doesn't exist in a way that will guaranty high sales for these kinds of games.
By the end of the year it will be interesting to see sales of games like Red Steel 2 and Silent Hill: Shattered Memories. I don't really expect the latter to sell all that well, considering it's genre and diminishing fanbase, but I am interested in its sales comparisons to something like Homecoming and Origins.
And sadly, The Conduit really hasn't 'proven' a point either way. It could have legs like CoD:WaW and prove that an installbase is there, one that was wary of quality, or it could prove that the fabled 'core' installbase just doesn't exist in a way that will guaranty high sales for these kinds of games.
By the end of the year it will be interesting to see sales of games like Red Steel 2 and Silent Hill: Shattered Memories. I don't really expect the latter to sell all that well, considering it's genre and diminishing fanbase, but I am interested in its sales comparisons to something like Homecoming and Origins.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
How did the PS3 sell at launch?Dra-Q said:
I expect a similar immediate market impact.
idofriar1313
Banned
Another Gaf virgin making his first post a sales age post! 
On the whole Infamous and Prototype thing, it's just hilarious to watch GAFfers fight over it. Get a grip: The games have the same general premise/gameplay. In my eyes, they're both a load of crap because I, personally, am sick of sandbox games.
The Conduit; Bought this game as a happy Wii owner. I hate it. There's tons of little nitpicky BS that just compines into a pile of cow manure that makes me despise it. It's not that I want the game to fail, but I'm a bit pissed off that it sells more than stuff like Madworld (no matter what GAF thinks) as that game actually has a pretty important message to convey.
BlazBlue did great for a game out for one day. I have a feeling ASKYS is very happy right now.
Wasn't expecting EA Sports Active to chart again. But it ain't a bad game, so i don't mind.
All in all, pretty much what I suspected in terms of hardware. The coming months should be interesting seeing as they're devoid of any BIG releases.
On the whole Infamous and Prototype thing, it's just hilarious to watch GAFfers fight over it. Get a grip: The games have the same general premise/gameplay. In my eyes, they're both a load of crap because I, personally, am sick of sandbox games.
The Conduit; Bought this game as a happy Wii owner. I hate it. There's tons of little nitpicky BS that just compines into a pile of cow manure that makes me despise it. It's not that I want the game to fail, but I'm a bit pissed off that it sells more than stuff like Madworld (no matter what GAF thinks) as that game actually has a pretty important message to convey.
BlazBlue did great for a game out for one day. I have a feeling ASKYS is very happy right now.
Wasn't expecting EA Sports Active to chart again. But it ain't a bad game, so i don't mind.
All in all, pretty much what I suspected in terms of hardware. The coming months should be interesting seeing as they're devoid of any BIG releases.
Badly. What's more important is that it disrupts the cycle of annual upgrades. I think if you teach people that a new, improved model will come out next year, every year (for the same price too), they start to wait it out. That's not what Sony wants. The PSP Go will get a lot of formerly hesitant people off the fence, but the PSP Go itself is not what they will end up buying.Dra-Q said:
dammitmattt
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billy.sea said:
I don't think Wii Sports Resort is the type of game that's going to sell over a million copies in a week. I should be more of a slow burner, so NCAA 360 should still take the top spot. WSR could come in 2nd or 3rd, depending upon how NCAA PS3 sells.
AniHawk said:
And the biggest franchise in gaming, Madden, in what looks like a banner year.
Cosmonaut X
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idofriar1313 said:
Wii Sports Resort?
idofriar1313
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AniHawk said:
Wow, thanks Anihawk for making me feel stupid.
OK, so it's obvious. Wii Sports at #1 for July. Madden #1 August. Perhaps I'm more interested in whats at those 2-10 spots....
I got nothing..
The PS3 software situation is just abysmal. How much worse is it's software sales compared to the 360 when it's installed base was about the same as the PS3 is now? Seems like it's way worse. Also, is there any data on PSN sales? Stuff like Flower and Pixeljunk games? You can't even pirate games for the fucking thing, so it either means everyone with a PS3 has gamefly or people just don't buy games for it.
Beer Monkey
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inFAMOUS fans are generally PS3 fans.
PS3 fans should want Red Faction to sell much better than the rumored numbers show. Unless they want 360 to start getting some bigger free exclusives.
PS3 fans should want Red Faction to sell much better than the rumored numbers show. Unless they want 360 to start getting some bigger free exclusives.
dammitmattt
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AniHawk said:
What other franchise has been this dominant on a yearly bases for 20 years? Remember, this is an NPD thread, so if you just look at US sales numbers, Madden is ALWAYS in the top five and is often the best-selling title of the year.
It's also got more mainstream/casual appeal than anything this side of Wii Sports AND it has had its own TV show for years on ESPN. What more proof do you need?
I think another thing to take into account when discussing sales of Wii titles is how easily and commonly the Wii is hacked by so many "core gamers". The gamers are ones that would have most likely bought The Conduit but will likely decide against it since the reviews have been luke warm. So they'll just pirate it. So while the Wii userbase is huge, a large portion of that is "casual" or "non-gamer" who could care less about a game like Madworld. So that only leaves the "core gamer" and as I've already theorized, I'm thinking those on the fence may have pirated it or gamefly it.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
Oh man.
The Prototype Infamous fallout is gold.
It's like arguing over who has the better hamburger.
McDonald's or Wendy's.
The Prototype Infamous fallout is gold.
It's like arguing over who has the better hamburger.
McDonald's or Wendy's.
idofriar1313
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AniHawk said:
Wasn't Batman pushed to Holidays?
Guitar Hero 5 won't sell if* Smash Hits is any indication. I think (hoping) people are getting sick of Guitar Hero.
Beatles is September, I'm talking about the summer (as in the usual downtime/drought we gamers get)
Marvel Ultimate Alliance is, again, Fall.
Metroid Prime: They're probably the best games of last generation, but they never sell phenomenally. Usually they have legs 'till they reach a million or so, and then drop off.
At this point, it's like your trying to prove me wrong. Get some fresh air man. :lol
dammitmattt said:What other franchise has been this dominant on a yearly bases for 20 years? Remember, this is an NPD thread, so if you just look at US sales numbers, Madden is ALWAYS in the top five and is often the best-selling title of the year.
It's also got more mainstream/casual appeal than anything this side of Wii Sports AND it has had its own TV show for years on ESPN. What more proof do you need?
While not yearly releases, Pokemon's bigger, just by the number of units sold. So is Mario. Neither of those games have the number of SKUs released that Madden's had (though not for a lack of trying). Madden's only big in the US, and I realize that it makes sense to say so in a thread about US sales, but to say it's the entire industry's biggest franchise is false.
Biggest sports franchise? Sure (despite Wii Sport's massive worldwide appeal, it's not like Nintendo can just keep releasing it year after year). Biggest football franchise? Definitely.
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 is going to sell an insane amount of copies on 360.
Guitar Hero 5 and Rock Band Beatles aswell. I'm kind of wondering what will happen to Batman DA. The Dark Knight hype is dead ofcourse and we had one decent selling Batman game already. (Lego Batman, which is fun) I'm also curious of Madden 10 Wii. Will the new artstyle help?
Guitar Hero 5 and Rock Band Beatles aswell. I'm kind of wondering what will happen to Batman DA. The Dark Knight hype is dead ofcourse and we had one decent selling Batman game already. (Lego Batman, which is fun) I'm also curious of Madden 10 Wii. Will the new artstyle help?
dammitmattt
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bcn-ron said:
Consider this - most of the early adopters (let's say the first 2-3 million) tend to be your most invested and hardcore. After that, you're slowing branching out into more and more casual audiences that were waiting for price drops and other incentives to jump in. A large chunk of this audience is more value-conscious and will mostly stick to cheap or used games outside of the occasional blockbuster. For the most part, it's still your initial, primary userbase that's absolutely carrying sales, ESPECIALLY in the non-holiday months. It's the whole "20% of your audience buys 80% of your games" phenomenon that's been written about many times.
So the answer is no, a system with half of the install base shouldn't be selling half as many games. It should be doing a good deal better than that.
sixteen-bit
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Any sales numbers for BlazBlue yet?
dammitmattt
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Fredescu said:
On that list, only Mario, Pokemon, and possibly Tetris sold more copies in the US than Madden. Keep in mind that out of those 70 million copies sold, roughty 65 million were sold in the US. Plus, it's slightly unfair because Mario and Pokemon have been in so many different types of games. Madden is just Madden.
Accident said:
Accident said:
Wow, so those 12 PSP games had average sales of 30k. That is really low (for comparison it's 78k for the 32 X360 games).
Knowing very little about the PSP, my question is: Why does any company besides Sony make PSP games? I don't get it, can the games really be profitable with these kind of sales numbers? Even if they are, why would a company not make their game for the 360, Wii, or DS instead? The opportunity cost of releasing a PSP game seems huge given the lack of sales relative to other platforms...
gregor7777
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Does anyone know how those leaked numbers got out?
Would anyone have thought in June 09 Halo Wars would be selling the same amount as KZ2? Let alone Halo 3 doubling KZ2 sales..
And what a huge success UFC has been. I said wow.
Would anyone have thought in June 09 Halo Wars would be selling the same amount as KZ2? Let alone Halo 3 doubling KZ2 sales..
And what a huge success UFC has been. I said wow.
EatChildren said:
I think it is sad that people still think a game has to prove that the core base is there. I guess the core games that have sold well prove nothing, because every hyped up core game has to sell well.
At this point it does not matter anyway. More core games are coming to the Wii even if the Conduit does not sell over 100k by the end of this month.
KirmiziBeyaz said:
Both had very big ad campaigns and both are fun games.
You are completely fucking delusional.Mr.Potato Head said:
Being used to IR pointer aiming, analog stick aiming feels as dated as it made d-pad aiming feel when it first came around.speculawyer said:
Sales across the top 152 games does not necessarily reflect total software sales.Opiate said:
Note that if the UK numbers are true, Wii actually increased in the rest of Europe to make up for it. Total sales in Europe during the first 17 weeks are flat YoY.Opiate said:
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
AniHawk said:
I'll dance the dance of joy of Metroid Prime Trilogy makes the Top 10. It's the one franchise that more people need to play.