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NPD Sales Results for March 2009
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legend166 said:
No it's not. The guy doesn't like the Wii and he is always fishing for a reason to claim that the Wii isn't "hardcore" and can't sell "hardcore" games.
There are plenty of reasons why CW didn't capture the GTA fan the first one being that, as I said earlier, it resembles the old, unpopular 2D GTA games. People who jumped on board the GTA train with GTA3 and onwards are not going to jump on CW as they would another 3D GTA experience.
And this gloom and doom talk is so pathetic. It's like Call of Duty World at War didn't sell half a million copies (not to mention RE4, UC, NMH, etc). Yeah let's erase that from history. The Wii doesn't have that "hardcore" demographic. Madworld proves it. Just forget about all the other games that came before it.
I think the desire is for it to simply have a well rounded library with titles appealing to all demographics and tastes. When the Wii was setting the hardware charts alight early on, I think people even expected all the software to follow. It has since become obvious that it won't.legend166 said:
v1cious said:
We don't see them now, thats the point I was trying to get across to you. Going by the Top 10 Wii games over the last 3 months where are the party games? With the exception of Wii Play they do not reside on the systems big sellers and thus negate your point
Compared to 2007 and 2008 Ubisoft is releasing less of them, EA is releasing less of them,Sega has next to none of them, neither does Capcom, for a market that is dominated by it according to you it seems you are either out of touch or know something the rest of the industry does not
creamsugar
Member
Oldschool said:
< 55k
Actually, it still would have been disapointing for a game of its caliber. Oh and if you were being technical, it would have sold less than 612K since it had like an extra week too.lowrider007 said:
I could have sworn MGS4 had the highest budget of all games in history, but from reading the past posts, Killzone seems to be....which makes it even worse.
Beer Monkey
Member
Omar Ismail said:
My bad. I stand corrected.
Informally, I was too (12 years ago). Blew my mind how low they were paying.
That has nothing to do with the industry as a whole, a small minority of programmers work for such companies. And those compensation numbers are shrinking, but that's off-topic.
My prediction for The Conduit (and Bayonetta as well ...) was 3x Madworld in US NPD's first month of tracking. With the numbers in, that means the bar is set at 210k. I don't know whether to giggle or sob.
comedy bomb
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legend166 said:
I agree with this post. I like variation in my gaming, so some mature games here and there are a nice departure, but they aren't primarily what I bought the Wii for.
fernoca said:
Pretty much. That business article was a joke. DS is 'only for children'? Hilarious. I think a much better reason is because it's a 2D GTA, regardless of how good it is or not. 2D GTAs never sold that well for a reason; people outside of the ultra-core don't like them. Period.
As for Madworld, the more I dwell on it the more apparent it becomes to me that the art style of the game is probably what people don't "get". If it were not black and white and red, it probably would have done a lot better. Still it might hold on for a while and do well eventually, we'll have to wait and see.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
I usually don't agree with you but you're dead on now. I think we just need to leave the idea that Wii will sell gangbusters on a lot of games or even resurrect the gaming industry from it's current trajectory dead outside in the backyard. Some will have success and some will not on Wii. Sega made some weird decisions on Madworld and couldn't have expected a million seller. The adds don't line up with what the game is. It's almost as if they expected us to know the game is about chopping people's heads off. It's a complete hardcore game in the sense that you have to find out and search out what it is.Scrubking said:
GTA: Chinatown-Fuck the sales, it's one of the best GTA games made and is a welcome departure and improvement over GTA4 in some ways. I'm glad it hit DS.
I think that's because when the console first came out we got around five to ten 1+ million selling titles and even two or three 2+ million selling titles. It was later that the entire market for it really died. If the rumors are true, this is basically the relaunch of the system, so now would pretty much be the best time to release a PSP game if you were ever going to do so.Grecco said:
If this crop flops though I wouldn't expect to see many more PSP games coming out until the successor.
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
I know I'm going to sob when I see Murasama numbers :'(bcn-ron said:
Grecco said:
Yeah, it almost seems irresponsible at this point to spend any considerable amount of money developing for the PSP unless you KNOW it will sell.
IMO Sony should get creative with PSP software. Make every retail game a special edition. Put trinkets, plushies, tshirts, download codes, or some kind of random bullshit inside every UMD case sold at retail. Anything to motivate people to buy instead of pirate. Seems simple to me, even small carrots can motivate purchases.... but then again, im' not running a big, profitable company like Sony.
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lawblob said:
I saw someone buy MLB 2k9 because it has fireworks for home runs and the show doesn't
GitarooMan
Member
I just hope we see another mainline RE game on PS3/360 this gen, hopefully 2011.
outunderthestars
Banned
lawblob said:
I wonder how many of those pirates stole GTA: Chinatown on the DS. Piracy on the ds is easier, yet nobody ever assumes that piracy had any effect on the GTA's sales.
Nobody is buying psp's right now, as Sony has all but announced a new model.
Poor resistance....
Mutanthands
Member
...is that the PSP has been an absolute disaster in North America this year. Sales are down this month nearly 50% year over year. Is it the software? Or is it the fact that the 3000 can't be cracked (as of yet)? Irregardless, this is not a good thing when the PSP is supposed to pick up the slack from the PS2 as a revenue stream.
The only conclusion you can draw from numbers like that are that the system is dying. It's doing wonderful in Japan, but in the two biggest markets (USA and Europe), it's getting destroyed.
I wonder if the publishers are starting to get nervous about all the new software they've committed to the platform. Unless they have something new to support...
Like or not, a new PSP is coming, likely at E3. PSP as it is now is on life support.
The only conclusion you can draw from numbers like that are that the system is dying. It's doing wonderful in Japan, but in the two biggest markets (USA and Europe), it's getting destroyed.
I wonder if the publishers are starting to get nervous about all the new software they've committed to the platform. Unless they have something new to support...
Like or not, a new PSP is coming, likely at E3. PSP as it is now is on life support.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Wow @
Resistance Retribution 55k
GTA CW 90k
Also kinda surprised that RE360 outsold the PS3 almost 2-1, I'd expect it to be closer even though the 360 has a 2:1 userbase advantage here.
Resistance Retribution 55k
GTA CW 90k
Also kinda surprised that RE360 outsold the PS3 almost 2-1, I'd expect it to be closer even though the 360 has a 2:1 userbase advantage here.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Pokemon aims moreso to kids who wouldn't have access to/knowledge of that sort of thing, I figure.soldat7 said:
outunderthestars
Banned
soldat7 said:
children aren't given flash carts as gifts. Adults can easily purchase them.
FateBreaker
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creamsugar said:
Please, Star Ocean: The Last Hope?
Ether_Snake
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Kotaku says GTA:CTW sold 90,000 units.
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
You're assuming the market will have grown by that much by the time next gen rolls around? You're certainly bullish.v1cious said:
TheGreatDave
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soldat7 said:
Vast majority?
lawblob said:
Not to be a downer, but looking over this thread, and the suggestions people have made:
1) PS3 needs a price cut. This would literally cost hundreds of millions of dollars.
2) Bundle stuff with PSP games. This would cost millions rather quickly.
3) Advertise more. This costs a great deal of money, too.
And others. All of these myriad suggestions can restated as an essential comment: "spend more money Sony!" I would respond with this: Sony has already spent ~3.5 billion dollars pushing their current generation systems. The 600 dollar starting price of the PS3 was effectively a 2 billion dollar advertising campaign: for example, Sony could have started the system at 800 dollars, and gone with a 2 billion dollar marketing campaign. That's a ridiculously huge marketing campaign... but 800 dollars. I don't know what the result would have been, given how much aversion there was to a 600 dollar price point.
Saying this more concisely: Sony has supported the PS3 and PSP with incredible aggression, spending billions to bolster their prospects. If these products are not selling to your or their expectations, it's not because Sony isn't trying. They have really tried.