psn
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If you have any reliable evidence... But I wouldn't go that far maybe, he didn't even tell which gap he meant.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
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If you have any reliable evidence... But I wouldn't go that far maybe, he didn't even tell which gap he meant.
But we know WiiU is 245k and Xbox One is 1200k.
It is statistically impossible to get those numbers with those angles.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
this
MetalGuardian
Banned
Can we talk about Nintendo? Yes? Okay.
240k - that's... that's not too bright. System sales continue to be an extinct whale's blowhole of despair. Those sales are NOT deserved, as beloved as the Wii U is amongst owners. With all of the incredibly positive Wii U threads popping up on GAF the past couple of months, I had a faint spark of optimism in my soul that Nintendo would at least do around a half mil in November. Sometimes it's easy to overestimate the influence of NeoGAF. GAF's reputation is becoming more and more of a behemoth within the hardcore industry circles, but it seems apparent that any affect we have on sales are just a dent in a sponge, as it were. Another example is AC:U cracking the top ten. I'm no Fun Dip... of course the vast majority of the game playing audience doesn't know about this forum. Still, much like a city, places like this are epicenters from where culture and ideas disseminate. The spider's thread should be more tensile and impressive, reverberating enough to at least put the Wii U in some sort position where it doesn't get the goofy dunce cap and consolation participation pity award. I thought the Wii was a heaping wound filled with mosquito entrails - it is by far my least favorite console that I've ever played. As a passionate fan of the company for two decades, the only first party content that I felt was truly worthwhile was Galaxy 1/2 and Punch-Out!!
The Wii U on the other hand - I don't even know where to begin! The stable is filled with gallant mounts, amassing the strongest steeds Nintendo has ever bred. A case can be made for almost every first party title being the best in their respective, legendary franchises.
Pikmin 3 is the best Pikmin game. Mario Kart 8 is the best Mario Kart Game. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U is the best Super Smash Bros. Game. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze is, as much as it pains the stirring my heart will always have for DKC 2, the best Donkey Kong Country game. New Super Mario Bros. U is the best New Super Mario Bros. game. Super Mario 3D World can at least be legitimately argued to stand along the other opus 3D Mario peers. Nintendo Land is among their best mini-game titles. This isn't even to say anything of the sterling Bayo 2 and Wonderful 101. This system is the absolute pinnacle of the quality over quantity mantra - not by choice, nor to imply that the two are mutually exclusive. The craftsmanship of these tentpole titles are rivaling SNES quality, giving me nothing but the utmost faith in Splatoon, Kirby, Wooly World, Star Fox, and of course my fickle mistress - Zelda herself.
But for all of the hardware sales woes - the attach rates for Smash could easily climb to those of MKate - roughly half. And the more quality games the Wii U owners consume, the more loyalty retention. Nintendo is absolutely doing right by their consumer base at the moment, and (again, evidenced by all of the positive threads here), the Wii U owners know it. If Nintendo keeps spitting this hot Bowser fire with their games, how many of us could possibly resist a jump into whatever the hell their next console is? We shall be retained - the rest of the market share can be courted with marketing and business strategy conceived by something other than an aborted potato.
Sometimes the brightest lights must dim into the cosmos for a time before resparking back into the sphere of recognition. The dimness is what reignites the spark, in fact. The wool is around Nintendo, and their flint has already banged the stone. So long as their leadership doesn't act as a hydro pump in perpetuity, their vision of a similar architectures structure between the handheld and home console, combined with what they learned from the "painful 8s", as we'll call this generation, there's a very real probability that they will be competitive next go.
In the meantime, Amiibos mathematically breaking down to one figure per one copy of smash (I'm acutely aware of the vast outliers here), is bonkers. So, Nintendo brethren and sistren, go weep gently in the arms of weird double blastar sam... the tears can keep us warm for now, but know that patience will persevere and return N back to the promised land at the appointed time.
Come 2019, you'll all be vindicated.
240k - that's... that's not too bright. System sales continue to be an extinct whale's blowhole of despair. Those sales are NOT deserved, as beloved as the Wii U is amongst owners. With all of the incredibly positive Wii U threads popping up on GAF the past couple of months, I had a faint spark of optimism in my soul that Nintendo would at least do around a half mil in November. Sometimes it's easy to overestimate the influence of NeoGAF. GAF's reputation is becoming more and more of a behemoth within the hardcore industry circles, but it seems apparent that any affect we have on sales are just a dent in a sponge, as it were. Another example is AC:U cracking the top ten. I'm no Fun Dip... of course the vast majority of the game playing audience doesn't know about this forum. Still, much like a city, places like this are epicenters from where culture and ideas disseminate. The spider's thread should be more tensile and impressive, reverberating enough to at least put the Wii U in some sort position where it doesn't get the goofy dunce cap and consolation participation pity award. I thought the Wii was a heaping wound filled with mosquito entrails - it is by far my least favorite console that I've ever played. As a passionate fan of the company for two decades, the only first party content that I felt was truly worthwhile was Galaxy 1/2 and Punch-Out!!
The Wii U on the other hand - I don't even know where to begin! The stable is filled with gallant mounts, amassing the strongest steeds Nintendo has ever bred. A case can be made for almost every first party title being the best in their respective, legendary franchises.
Pikmin 3 is the best Pikmin game. Mario Kart 8 is the best Mario Kart Game. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U is the best Super Smash Bros. Game. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze is, as much as it pains the stirring my heart will always have for DKC 2, the best Donkey Kong Country game. New Super Mario Bros. U is the best New Super Mario Bros. game. Super Mario 3D World can at least be legitimately argued to stand along the other opus 3D Mario peers. Nintendo Land is among their best mini-game titles. This isn't even to say anything of the sterling Bayo 2 and Wonderful 101. This system is the absolute pinnacle of the quality over quantity mantra - not by choice, nor to imply that the two are mutually exclusive. The craftsmanship of these tentpole titles are rivaling SNES quality, giving me nothing but the utmost faith in Splatoon, Kirby, Wooly World, Star Fox, and of course my fickle mistress - Zelda herself.
But for all of the hardware sales woes - the attach rates for Smash could easily climb to those of MKate - roughly half. And the more quality games the Wii U owners consume, the more loyalty retention. Nintendo is absolutely doing right by their consumer base at the moment, and (again, evidenced by all of the positive threads here), the Wii U owners know it. If Nintendo keeps spitting this hot Bowser fire with their games, how many of us could possibly resist a jump into whatever the hell their next console is? We shall be retained - the rest of the market share can be courted with marketing and business strategy conceived by something other than an aborted potato.
Sometimes the brightest lights must dim into the cosmos for a time before resparking back into the sphere of recognition. The dimness is what reignites the spark, in fact. The wool is around Nintendo, and their flint has already banged the stone. So long as their leadership doesn't act as a hydro pump in perpetuity, their vision of a similar architectures structure between the handheld and home console, combined with what they learned from the "painful 8s", as we'll call this generation, there's a very real probability that they will be competitive next go.
In the meantime, Amiibos mathematically breaking down to one figure per one copy of smash (I'm acutely aware of the vast outliers here), is bonkers. So, Nintendo brethren and sistren, go weep gently in the arms of weird double blastar sam... the tears can keep us warm for now, but know that patience will persevere and return N back to the promised land at the appointed time.
Come 2019, you'll all be vindicated.
The white one doesnt match up with the wii us number if its novemebers. Blak one has to be for month
SUPERJEM94
Banned
I see pie graphs, are we Polygon now?
This.
Don't understand why people are saying PS4 is doomed, just look at their WW sales (I own both consoles btw)
He aint trolling, he just doesnt hand it on a plate. Leave Cream alone!!!
(It's obvious it's LTD's)
No but he knew what people would assume. He's a troll.
don't see why not if he is wrong, which sounds like he is
theprodigy
Member
Someone check if LTD lines up for the second one.
Stone Ocean
Member
Yoda
Member
Black for black friday?
Not even close.
EDIT2: Also this thread (partially guilty) jumps to conclusions way to fast (both ways).
alexandros
Banned
You need a controller to play the PC version properly. I'm not going to shed any tears.
Wow, one piece of misinfo totally ruined the first 20 or so pages of the thread. Bye bye CBOAT.
Anyway, looks like excellent news for MS, and as a PS4 owner I'm happy to see them put some heat on Sony. They went flat out and were rewarded appropriately. Spencer is obviously getting it done.
Also interesting to see AC Unity that low. Delighted to see a buggy release like that 'punished'.
What's more interesting and upsetting to me, though, is that in the year it got Mario Kart and the month it got Smash (and November is typically Nintendo's strongest / second strongest month!) the Wii U only increased 10% year on year from a horrible starting point. That tells me the thing is going to fall off a cliff next year. Yet Smash sold great. Why? I guess almost all the hardcore have one by now, and no one else seems to want one. When Zelda comes out I imagine almost everyone interested in it will already have a Wii U. 2015 could be its last stand.
Anyway, looks like excellent news for MS, and as a PS4 owner I'm happy to see them put some heat on Sony. They went flat out and were rewarded appropriately. Spencer is obviously getting it done.
Also interesting to see AC Unity that low. Delighted to see a buggy release like that 'punished'.
What's more interesting and upsetting to me, though, is that in the year it got Mario Kart and the month it got Smash (and November is typically Nintendo's strongest / second strongest month!) the Wii U only increased 10% year on year from a horrible starting point. That tells me the thing is going to fall off a cliff next year. Yet Smash sold great. Why? I guess almost all the hardcore have one by now, and no one else seems to want one. When Zelda comes out I imagine almost everyone interested in it will already have a Wii U. 2015 could be its last stand.
Teletraan1
Banned
Something something maturity.
If the 1.2 mil and 242k figures are correct, then the white pie cannot be representative of the sales. This suggests that CBOAT is wrong.
However, we still don't know what the black pie chart represents, so if I were you... I would wait.
I was going to say same thing.
neogaffer1
Banned
7-10k minute ban would be amazing.
JetBlackPanda
Member
This is the worst part of microsoft winning a month.
All the "LONG LIVE THE KING" "Sony is doomed" posts lol
I think it's all amusing but man
Jacksinthe
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MastorofPuppetz
Banned
There's a world outside the US. The gen is over
bananafactory
Banned
Another pie
CBOAT was right!?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Black chart Black Friday sales = XBox1 won
Blue Chart rest of month sales = PS4 won
US+UK = 1.2m XB1s sold
Blue Chart rest of month sales = PS4 won
US+UK = 1.2m XB1s sold
Another pie
combining these two posts I say that pie is last gen ltd (360-wii-ps3)
bish, no! He might have meant YoY difference or US + UK for some reason.
Officerrob
Banned
No way that blue/white pie chart is November XB1/PS4/Wii U. The Wii U percentage is too large
creamsugar
Member
Hint for the 2nd pie: click it.
ACU bundle is slightly lower than PS4 total.
ACU bundle is slightly lower than PS4 total.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
FlyingIrishMan
Member
creamsugar don't have black friday sales.
fluffydelusions
Member
maabus1999
Member
It is not hardware! The wii u is no where near that ratio.
Syphon Filter
Member
so the black chart is for BF and the other is the total. MS can't catch a break
loaf of bread
Member
Well the XB1 really hasn't been above $300 this month. With the pack ins its been hovering around $200
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Have these connected people commented on the final numbers? Seems to be a lot of info flying around right now.
You're really reaching dude.
Bish, please.
Let's conclude the story first. You can't make make life or death decisions in act two. It has to be act three.
Unless you want to ban everyone on GAF except me, so it truly is the Age of One. Then that's fine.
7 - 10 days ban?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
wait the black chart was only for BF?
bananafactory
Banned
Ah, it's LTD.
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