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[RespectThySole]

So the best move Ubisoft made this year was that AC bundle.

Yep it more than made up the lost sales they missed from not putting it on last gen consoles.

 

[Oemenia]

What was CBOAT's Titanfall prediction again?

 

[Amir0x]

What was CBOAT's Titanfall prediction again?

resolution about Titanfall iirc

 

[Yasumi]

Curious for some Freedom Wars, Tales of Hearts R, and Project Diva f 2nd numbers.

 

[Chezzymann]

So has microsoft made a statement about this yet? Because this is a pretty huge month for them.

 

[LeonSPBR]

People need to buy more Dragon Age. That is an awesome game and deserves more copies sold.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

If you go back and look at my post I said about half and then followed it by saying 400-500k.

I didn't know how much exactly ps4 was ahead exactly I just knew it was about a million.

I'm just a bit irked that there were some "Jomjom where you at now?" "Post if you're OK" type posts right after the cboat post.

My hats off to you Jomjom you nailed it bro.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

So, it's safe to say that

1) Assassin's Creed was a next-gen system seller
2) HD Remakes still don't sell shit compared to their original releases. Halo and GTA can be added to the pile, even with their healthy sales.
3) Sonic is dead. Finally.

What was CBOAT's Titanfall prediction again?

He said the final game would run at 720p. The beta came out at a slightly higher resolution. The devs said the final game would run at that resolution. He said the final game would run at 720p again, basically calling the devs bullshit artists. He got banned.

 

[PhatSaqs]

People saying that Sony needs to respond are failing to see the big picture:

1) Sony still has a strong lead over MS worldwide (remember, we were around 14M PS4s vs around 7-8M XOnes...MS may have won the US/UK by 400k, but that's not world wide sales). They would factor that into any decision regarding permanent price drops.

2) Sony still had a strong month of sales

3) No company will make a knee-jerk reaction to 1 month sales results...look at how long it took MS. With that said, we don't know what MS has planned in regards to their price after the holidays (especially if we assume they're taking a loss at these prices).

I'm glad that MS had strong numbers for November, it's good for the industry to be competitive.

I agree. Sony is fine and has surprised themselves so far. They are running on fumes right now with no need to find a gas station at all.

 

[uncredited male]

I thought no backwards compatibility would be a thing.

Remasters, remasters everywhere.

 

[Bgamer90]

you thought I was grossly overestimating too when I said gap closer to 350k-400k two weeks ago

i served you gentle, friendly crow earlier in the topic. Will you take a small spoonful of it, as a joke?

Definitely. I'm happy it did better than I expected since the sooner that people jump onto current gen, the sooner that current gen only games (instead of cross gen) will be made.

 

[Hoje0308]

Dude, the competition is what matters.

Taking the numbersi n their historical perspective is meaningless. What matters is the situation as it exists now.

To do otherwise, would just be looking at things in a vacuum.

This console generation is very different sales-wise than previous ones. Previous generations were a slow burn. This one was on fire from day 1.

Okay, so to avoid the viewing of the situation in a vacuum, you think we should ignore history and focus solely on this one month that supports your weak argument? And you claim this generation is so different? Isn't that historical perspective? And what's this slow burn you're talking about? Ever heard of the Wii?

 

[BuggeryBugz]

This is US NPD. We like to pretend US is the only country that matters

I know it's US NPD but people are writing off other countries without knowing numbers.

 

[Apt101]

So the 400k figure is right? Man Sony got dunked on like a late 90's style NBA video with Above The Rim playing.

 

[Bsigg12]

Guy at work was telling me how he beat this game without ever seeing a glitch and that people were making the glitches up to make Ubisoft look bad. lol

That particular bug was from the closed beta on the Xbox One. Framedrops are currently the major issue with the game.

 

[Amir0x]

Definitely. I'm happy it did better than I expected since the sooner that people jump onto current gen, the sooner that current gen only games (instead of cross gen) will be made.

fuck yeah, death to cross gen games

*pitch forks rise in action*

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

The game had plenty of genuine bugs at launch, you don't need to post that bullshit gif.

 

[Takao]

Curious for some Freedom Wars, Tales of Hearts R, and Project Diva f 2nd numbers.

Physical version is exclusive to Gamestop. IIRC NPD didn't report on Xenoblade so I imagine the same will be for ToHR.

 

[allan-bh]

So, it's safe to say that

1) Assassin's Creed was a next-gen system seller

I don't think so. $329

 

[Guymelef]

Curious for some Freedom Wars, Tales of Hearts R, and Project Diva f 2nd numbers.

Probably

 

[vpance]

Guy at work was telling me how he beat this game without ever seeing a glitch and that people were making the glitches up to make Ubisoft look bad. lol

Yeah that bug was from the pre alpha. I don't doubt your coworker's story though. Some people either don't notice that shit or are lucky enough to avoid them.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

I agree. Sony is fine and has surprised themselves so far. They are running on fumes right now with no need to find a gas station at all.

Running on fumes?

 

[Moneal]

Guy at work was telling me how he beat this game without ever seeing a glitch and that people were making the glitches up to make Ubisoft look bad. lol

that glitch was from an alpha build leak

 

[Duxxy3]

Sorry man.

Some // thought // I was crazy // too though (haha).

If XB1 outsells PS4 by 100k or more in december I am going to have so many posts to quote.

 

[creamsugar]

PS4 megaton x2 bundle ~ 340k
3DS new limited ED ~ 140k
MSFT megaton > 660k
4 > 670k, PS4 ~ 42%, XBO ~ 32%

edited.

 

[tmac456]

Sony will be fine with their 2015 lineup. Especially with Bloodborne and The Order coming out when X1 has nothing coming

Wouldn't be surprised by a holiday 2015 price drop with Uncharted 4 coming out

 

[Noobcraft]

What was CBOAT's Titanfall prediction again?

He said it would be 720p, respawn said (on here) it would release at 792p, then he said it would be downgraded to 720p anyways.

 

[TI82]

That particular bug was from the closed beta on the Xbox One. Framedrops are currently the major issue with the game.

Ah. Yeah he was like "the game is super smooth I dunno what everyone is talking about. My favorite in the series best storyline in a game in a long time blah blah blah" and then started trying to spoil Dragon Age for me so I left.

*currently waiting for UPS to show up so I can play it*

 

[Amir0x]

If XB1 outsells PS4 by 100k or more in december I am going to have so many posts to quote.

I believe, given its performance in November, it will beat PS4 by 250k in December NPD.

MARK THIS POST NOW BROSEF.

 

[crinale]

It's not that simple. PS4 still did really good numbers at $399.99. It's a conscious trade-off; they have higher profit margins but less units, and still retain overall lead in US by 750-800k (I think XBO is going to gap PS4 in December by 250k, reducing that further to around 500-550k gap in US). Whereas this is a gaining period for XBO, massive surge, but at a hit to their profit margin on a per unit basis. They sold enough to offset the profit margin decrease, and gained back some lost marketshare in US. For Microsoft the strategy was brilliantly successful.

But due to PS4 still doing well, it means potentially PS4 can maintain its higher price point for a longer period of time and still have a very big strategic impact when it also drops to $349.99, gaining back some of the territory it lost in November.

Sales trajectories are a loooong game, it's never so simple. I see the way both Microsoft and Sony are aligning themselves strategically, and it is super fascinating. For example Sony has a very stacked first six months of 2015, and a stellar holiday season for 2015 if nothing slips. So if they do combine that lineup with their own price drop, they too could have a quite amazing bounce.

So it's very interesting times ahead if you're into sales analysis.

Yeah good point. A little OT but I have just read that PS4 is THE biggest revenue driver of Sony for last quarter at the Japanese news site. They will be extremely cautions about the price cut IMO.

 

[breakfuss]

LOLOLOL. well, well, well.

I checked this earlier when the gap was supposedly only 10k. Lawd. I don't even care about this shit but bless you for the hilarity, GAF. Bless you.

And that Arrow GIF is gold.

 

[Spazgadget]

Wait, PS4 got bodied THAT bad and the overall lead is basically minimal now?

Microsoft had a great month on the back of their price cuts and giveaway games, but I think it's a little premature to say PS4's overall lead is "basically minimal now". This month put them back to their lead before the Destiny bundle in September. So... still significant.

A great month for MS after a year of losses. Nothing more or less.

 

[sense]

I'm gonna make excuses for Sony, because MS deserved to win for sure. Having said that, Sony's holiday games were shit tier.

1. I always said LPB3 was not gonna move jack shit. It's not made by MM, and honestly doesn't look like a generational leap forward. It straight up looked like a slightly nicer looking PS3 game.

2. Driveclub was just plagued with bad press regarding the launch issues which went on for weeks. Disregarding the online, the game also reviewed like hot mehhhhhhhh. Forza Horizon 2 blew it out of the fucking water in terms of scores.

3. Sony released their bundle 2 weeks later than when GTA V got released. The fuck?

4. MS had Sunset which was a true exclusive, they had Halo which despite having issues, was still Halo, and probably moved systems.

5. Dat Ass Creed Unity bundle for $329

Honestly, Sony gave MS Nov on a silver platter. Everything extra that MS did was just icing on the cake. Sony was in a bad position in the Holidays. They took a beating for sure, but I think they'll be ok now. 2015 looks pretty damn good for PS4. They really shouldn't have any bad holidays going forward now.

meh i don't think they would look at it as a beating. those are solid numbers for ps4. MS just earned alot of those sales that were probably going to be for next year by doing the price cut alongside some crazy deals which Sony will get too next year when they drop the price. MS threw everything and the kitchen sink and they were able to get a good extra chunk of sales.

 

[Blueblur1]

hedgehog bomba U ~ 25k, the other platform is lower.

Unless the show somehow ends up being profitable, you can forget Sega of Japan ever letting SoA do anything like Sonic Boom ever again.

 

[chadskin]

What was CBOAT's Titanfall prediction again?

Said TF final will be 720p and have the low-res textures from the alpha test version, even though the beta was 792p already and had much better textures. He doubled down on his initial 720p/alpha textures claim and got banned for a short while.

 

[Inuhanyou]

Hah, so CBOAT was wrong. Well who would have guessed /s

Sometimes i think the 'insiders' on this website just like taking everyone for a ride with pretending to have info they don't actually have.

Again, good for MS, they brought the heat last month, them winning stands to reason

 

[Vestal]

So has microsoft made a statement about this yet? Because this is a pretty huge month for them.

They have kept it pretty cool IMO. I think its smart. Their PR didn't mention the sales gap which IMO means they are cautious of over reacting after 1 month.

However, if say they continue to close the GAP in the US over the next few months you will start to see them expand their wings regarding sales. I don't expect them to start dropping sales figures until they erase most of the US gap(at least under 200k)

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Well... at least one system was over a million units.

Took some freaking drastic deals and a huge cut to get there, but One did it.

 

[Road]

Can we get Xbox 360 and Wii LTD?

*looks around*

These are about the numbers I have (Difference of 20k for PS4 and 12k for Xbone). What is your LTD for Wii U? I'm trying to match the white pie chart creamsugar posted.

I have 3,082,000 for WiiU

I have 3.09 million.

Close enough.

 

[Yasumi]

Probably

Why do you do this to my soul? ;_;

Spoiler

Pretty much expecting it though.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

I believe, given its performance in November, it will beat PS4 by 250k in December NPD.

MARK THIS POST NOW BROSEF.

Only reason I would doubt it would be November was the first month the sales cuts went into place so it front loads a lot. Otherwise seems possible.

 

[Kilau]

Time for Sony to put LBP out to pasture.

People seriously need to buy Dragon Age

I bought both ;p

 

[Oemenia]

Thanks for the response guys, honestly he really is responsible for shitting up a lot of the next-gen discussions.

 

[Amir0x]

Yeah good point. A little OT but I have just read that PS4 is THE biggest revenue driver of Sony for last quarter at the Japanese news site. They will be extremely cautions about the price cut IMO.

I mean as long as they continue to maintain a dominant footing on the worldwide basis and still sell as great as they did in November NPD, they are not going to rush into cutting the price.

We're still at least 8 or 9 months off from a viable PS4 price cut option I think.

It really depends though on what choice Microsoft makes regarding to price of XBO after these holidays, and where the month-to-month average settles in at once the fireworks are through. 'Cause then Sony can gain back some ground with a crucial software+price cut combo, given all the high profile products Sony is either co-marketing or releasing themselves.

 

[John Bender]

If XB1 outsells PS4 by 100k or more in december I am going to have so many posts to quote.

More like ~250k

 

[Nightengale]

PS4 megaton x2 bundle ~ 340k
3DS new limited ED ~ 140k
MSFT megaton > 660k
4 > 670k, PS4 ~ 42%, 360 ~ 32%

Am I reading this right?

GTAV bundle made up less than half of November?

 

[xxracerxx]

The benefit of a close US race is that hopefully doesn't cut the generation short ala Xbox 1 to 360.

 

[wachie]

Sorry man.

Some // thought // I was crazy // too though (haha).

Not sure what you are trying to prove?

You were saying Xbox One could win with MCC and other exclusives when we now know that isn't true at all.

Xbox One is a true contender to he PS4 at the ~$280-330 price point.

 

[RespectThySole]

So, it's safe to say that

1) Assassin's Creed was a next-gen system seller
2) HD Remakes still don't sell shit compared to their original releases. Halo and GTA can be added to the pile, even with their healthy sales.
3) Sonic is dead. Finally.

#2 seems pretty accurate.

 

[Miles X]

PS4 megaton x2 bundle ~ 340k
3DS new limited ED ~ 140k
MSFT megaton > 660k
4 > 670k, PS4 ~ 42%, 360 ~ 32%

Assuming 660k is Halo MCC, that's .. a little disappointing.

3DS hardware hints?