Nightengale
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PR from games companies always lack subtlety. Be it MS or Sony, they're brutally transparent and reflects their state of mind.
NPD Sales Results for November 2014 [Up3: NPD Data Error, AC:U #5]
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PR from games companies always lack subtlety. Be it MS or Sony, they're brutally transparent and reflects their state of mind.
Yeah, there will be more games....but it'll take like 5-6 2015 games to equal a Smash or Mario Kart.
I'm just saying random numbers, but I could see the bigger early games (Yoshi, Kirby, maybe X, maybe Splatoon) opening at 100-200K. It takes a few of those to equal Smash. (What did Hyrule open at again?)
So the lineup will be better, but revenue will likely be way down.
Welcome to yesterday
Hero of Legend
Member
Believe it or not, for Boom U that's better than Lost World. Lost World was about 30k on both combined in Oct 2013, and in favor of 3DS IIRC.
TheKevinDent
Neo Member
Ah someone else clarified? Great, I didn't want to read 44 pages of stuff.
I think it was close to 200k with digital....
Poodlestrike
Banned
3rdamention
Member
You guys know, Cboat could have been saying "difference is 710k" meaning the difference in the US is now 710k. However, since he likes to be so criptic with his messages, he threw that "7-10k" or the "-" to break the number up, then got banned.
The 710k difference could be pretty darn close to what the difference really is in the US. I know there are some Cboat haters, I know many were quick to throw him under the bus, but his own crazy writing style could have been the reason he got banned. However, he had so many chances to verify what the hell he was talking about, whether the difference was in the US overall or just the difference in November, Bish even asked, and there never was clarification. He did have chances to follow up with further clarification, and didn't. When you have a chance to prove yourself on GAF, or clarify, and you dont, you lose.
TheKevinDent
Neo Member
Hero of Legend
Member
Don't suppose we have any updates on Bayo 2 do we?
Oh yea.
Hm, Hopefully Zelda U can open at 500k.
Might need to do more than that in the US to top Wind Waker's 3 million and something WW, seeing how Japan likely won't contribute much.
Windom Earle
Member
I fell for CBOAT and he fell for the greater good (assuming he got perm'd).
Still, congrats to MS, did not expect them to win despite all the crazy deals. Will not really make a difference worldwide, but the console wars will keep afloat.
Still, congrats to MS, did not expect them to win despite all the crazy deals. Will not really make a difference worldwide, but the console wars will keep afloat.
Aquamarine
Member
Sorry, but that's incorrect because the LTD difference between PS4 and XB1 is not between 705-715K.
So there's no way that he would have been referencing that.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I think you underestimate the overall appeal of Xenoblade & Splatoon. They are no Mario sellers but they will still drive revenue to the parent company nonetheless.
A proper marketing campaign to Fire Emblem: Awakening & positive critical response brought Nintendo's most niche series to new heights - one could achieve the same results for Xenoblade X.
Nintendo's mantra for FY15 & FY16 is profitability first and build-up cash reserves - that's what they will do.
3DS' performance is where I pause and wonder. I don't know what they will do - I sincerely hope they signed a co-marketing deal with Bandai Namco to bring Youkai Watch to the West. They need new blood as 3DS is on its last footing - Pokemon and Smash are barely holding the fort.
About Zelda's performance - I think interest is there (Hyrule Warriors performed better than I imagined for a spin-off title). It will most likely achieve first-week sales comparable to Super Smash Wii U but Zelda's legs these days are cut short, so LTD ain't going to touch that SSBU.
This has been said a million times, but the message was clear and he had plenty of time to clarify (like say people were wrong) or PM a mod.
The difference is not 710k either.
95 ltd retail.
Hero of Legend
Member
Not bad! It was at 68k right last month? So it roughly retained half, so not a big drop IMO.
anexanhume
Member
I don't see an issue with Sony PR. They didn't make oddly qualified statements about families or fastest selling. They reiterated they're still number one overall and had a good Black Friday with publicly available info.
theprodigy
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Trust me. I'm a PhD
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Sorry if this was asked previously, but any indication how the Destiny bundle and Lego Batman/LBP3 bundles did in comparison to the GTAV/TLOU bundle?
Yup. I think 101 was also in that ballpark or that Bayo had surpassed it.
metalslimer
Member
It's November, that's a pretty big drop.
shinra-bansho
Member
I don't think I'm underestimating them. I think they're comparatively niche titles relative to what released this year. They may be receiving positive reception on places like here, but as did the likes of Bayonetta. And they'll bring revenue to Nintendo obviously, but I don't know if I'd see these titles driving software growth over this year..
Next year's big title is Zelda, and I don't see it matching what Smash will do. Titles like Kirby and Yarn Yoshi have been strong too in the past, but then as was Donkey Kong.
That's before considering there isn't anything to fill the void of Mario Kart.
EDIT: I agree the focus is on profitability now, but I think their route to profitability next year will need to be cost reductions mainly, unless Amiibos really do take off immensely.
Interfectum
Member
Shouldn't you be annoying people on Twitter?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
lol
Level-5 plans a worldwide release for 2015 but they never go alone, so either Bandai Namco are publishing as they are the master license for toys, or they continue their relationship with Nintendo and sign a co-marketing deal between both parties, Bandai Namco & Nintendo.
Waifus will come with FE X SMT - next year in game magazines ;.;
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Actually, EA was 5th this month. That doesn't happen often.
Activision, Nintendo, Take2, Ubisoft, EA.
DAI was actually like their most surprising sales driver.
only 2 weeks counted compared to 4 weeks to the previous games, and up over both previous iterations, despite negative franchise sentiment? still baffles my mind that people think this game launched poorly. It's just people only thinking in terms of lists, and not context
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Did Sony release an official PR yet?
Kevin Dent trying to call anyone out is pretty entertaining.
Kevin Dent trying to call anyone out is pretty entertaining.
Look up. It's a good one
Yes, look further up the page. It's terrible.
Neander
Member
He not only tried to make MS look bad, he actually made Gaf look bad because some places reported on this like truthfact then had to update after the harm was done. I just don't think anyone will trust him again or at the very least take his future words with huge grains of salt.
CaptainSlow
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"We are thrilled with the incredible momentum seen at retail heading into the holiday shopping season. PS4 is the cumulative leader in hardware sales and was #1 on the Amazon Video Games Bestseller list on Black Friday. On the network side, November was the biggest month ever in PlayStation Store history with a nearly 50 percent increase in unique visitors compared to last year. We couldn’t have done any of this without the support of our fans. The immediate success of PlayStation Experience and celebration of the 20th Anniversary demonstrates tremendous dedication to the PlayStation platform. We are humbled by the loyalty of our fans and look forward to amazing them in 2015."
Aquamarine
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Aquamarine
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Well, maybe if they released Battlefield this year...
freefornow
Member
5 month ban. CBOAT appears unpermable.
So what does happen often for EA?
Steverulez
Member
Hardline should still do well in March I suspect? Do they have anything else coming in the first half? Could be good for them towards the end of the year (FY)
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Eesh, it's like my mom always said there are times to speak and other times when its best to pretend you were involved in a serious accident that left you eating your food through a straw and mute.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
It's out of their fiscal, isn't it?
Depends if it's Before or after March, I don't recall the date offhand. If it's before March or early it won't matter as much.
If after, Rough year for a lot of people
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
So his ban will be lifted right around E3. Interesting.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Next year's Mario Kart 8 release window title will be Splatoon - it's never going to achieve such results.
Super Smash Bros Wii U's replacement title next year will be both Zelda (500-600k debut is what I am expecting) &
the inevitable Super Mario Galaxy HD Collection
Bayonetta is a niche franchise - Xenoblade X should have a comfortable opening of 125-150k (NPD month) depending on the title's reception.
It all depends on how Nintendo play their cards next-year, but to me, they are moving in the right direction - it's no longer in identity-crisis mode, they know how to monetize their userbase, they are restructuring, and I'm personally predicting 25% growth YoY for Wii U SW performance (Jan-Dec)
ChronotriggerJM
Member
I wonder if he gets to negotiate ban terms lol
Steverulez
Member
Compared to the usual numbered releases, I think it's gonna do pretty badly. I also don't think the cops vs robbers theme is that attractive.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Oh cool, telling date.
When you see that, that typically means:
Damn this game needs a lot of work. But we really need that money this fiscal. So let's give it as much time as we can and still report as much of the bulk of the revenue as we can this fiscal, because we we need the cash and also that's what we spent money on it for
boredandlazy
Member
Funny that you only rear your head around here now.
It's not like they posted how many elephants worth of weight they sold in PS4s or how many cars were jacked in GTA5 or anything stupid like that. Their PR statement is one of the most vanilla pieces of fluff I've seen in some time and is completely unremarkable as far as these things go.
I honestly wish Sony and Microsoft would come to a gentlemens' agreement and stop commenting on NPDs altogether. Both are going to take their turns as the whipping boy as the generation moves forward, and these statements always come off as forced or completely cringe worthy.
Steverulez
Member
Yeh, was pretty obvious why all the publishers were stacking the week before BF too especially for ACU. I was concerned about DAI too but that seems to be ok and I wasn't concerned about Halo MCC and well... yeh.
I thought it was funny that EA dated BFH, I felt it showed they had learned nothing from BF now perhaps BFH needed more time and March 20th is them giving it plenty of time (so, it could be out earlier but they want to polish it up real good) and it will still get the bulk of its sales in the FY.
We'll have to see. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a class action lawsuit or something over some of the issues this holiday