XiaNaphryz
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I think most of the clearer thinking gaffers were drowned out by the screeching of certain members of a particular rabid fanbase...LukeSmith said:
NPD Sales Results for October 2007
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Hcoregamer00 said:
Yeah, given the quality of Galaxy one would think it's going to sell gangbusters. Sadly, hardly anyone in the mainstream knew of SMG until about a week ago when the advertisements began. I tried to push galaxy pre-orders on every Wii transaction I made and only managed to get 2 people to go for it.
But anecdotal evidence is telling me that there will be a software boost after the holidays. Like I said in my initial post, most of the people buying are holding them as gifts. Interestingly, all these people doing their early holiday shopping are constantly asking for Wii-play simply because it comes with the extra controller - Wii-play is going to have consistent 200k numbers until they take the controller out. As for Z&W, my store did not stock it =(.
On R&C I think the biggest reason why it's not selling is because it isn't mature enough for the casual PS3 crowd. Even though I recommend it to people wanting a new PS3 game, they seem to brush it off as 'kiddy.' This gave me the impression that it is the PS3 fanbase that is less likely to embrace un-realistic games which does not bode well for LBP.
Only time will tell.
DeaconKnowledge
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"We" is obviously a generalization, Viscen.AdmiralViscen said:
And to reprise the argument we were having about this last month, Just under 800k systems on 3.7 million software sales? If that doesn't say that the average Halo fan already had a 360 I don't know what does, especially considering that we cannot assume everybody who bought the console in the last 2 months did so for Halo.
Halo 3 is still a system seller, but it wasn't going to be the breakthrough that a lot of people here predicted it would.
You said "It's September" when I last pointed this out. So now October has rolled in. Do you expect this to peak next month? Because i'm not seein it.
AfunkyArcadeStick
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Dr. Zoidberg
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A few comments:
R&C - I don't know exactly why the sales are so poor but it deserves better. It's by far the best unique PS3 offering so far. Nothing on 360 like it.
PG4 - It's all been said but it's been my experience that PGR is a pretty hardcore demographic game anyway. It was released too close to Forza and amongst a flood of quality software titles in numbers that are rarely seen. I mean, if somebody is going to buy 1 game, most will buy H3, not PGR4. I think PGR3 did well mainly due to it's launch game status.
PS3 3rd Parties - Hope I don't get banned for saying so but Sony will have to hand out MASSIVE moneyhats to make it worth it for 3rd parties to be TRULY PS3 exclusive. I mean, If I'm Hideo Kojima and I'm looking at these figures, I know what I'd be thinking. IF MGS4 were released simultaneously on both platforms, I wonder what the sales figures would be like. IMO the US X360 fanbase would eat it up. It'll sell well to PS3 owners too but the difference in install base is so staggering at this point, how much money would Sony have to pay to make it worthwhile? (Although the money was probably agreed on long ago, I wonder if anyone has regrets?)
Not bashing anything, just positing some logical thoughts. I like my PS3.
R&C - I don't know exactly why the sales are so poor but it deserves better. It's by far the best unique PS3 offering so far. Nothing on 360 like it.
PG4 - It's all been said but it's been my experience that PGR is a pretty hardcore demographic game anyway. It was released too close to Forza and amongst a flood of quality software titles in numbers that are rarely seen. I mean, if somebody is going to buy 1 game, most will buy H3, not PGR4. I think PGR3 did well mainly due to it's launch game status.
PS3 3rd Parties - Hope I don't get banned for saying so but Sony will have to hand out MASSIVE moneyhats to make it worth it for 3rd parties to be TRULY PS3 exclusive. I mean, If I'm Hideo Kojima and I'm looking at these figures, I know what I'd be thinking. IF MGS4 were released simultaneously on both platforms, I wonder what the sales figures would be like. IMO the US X360 fanbase would eat it up. It'll sell well to PS3 owners too but the difference in install base is so staggering at this point, how much money would Sony have to pay to make it worthwhile? (Although the money was probably agreed on long ago, I wonder if anyone has regrets?)
Not bashing anything, just positing some logical thoughts. I like my PS3.
BenjaminBirdie
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Maxwell House said:
I don't know. If we're going to analyze that deep, why say all and not "both"?
WrathOfOtaibah
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Hcoregamer00 said:
If the person's name was Surfer Dude, it wouldn't have made it past five posts.
DevelopmentArrested
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Speevy said:
I said wow.
AdmiralViscen
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XiaNaphryz said:
Yup.
DeaconKnowledge said:
A generalization of what? It indicated some kind of majority opinion, no? Predictions for the Halo boost ranged from "everyone who likes Halo already has a 360" to "360 will skyrocket past Wii."
As it is, 360 sales doubled over last year for one month, then increased by like 60% in the second month with only a 15k/week drop in sales. Halo 3 is going to take a big shit on Halo 2's sales, which indicates that a lot of new people are getting into it.
I would not be surprsied to see 360 at 650-700k next month, and well over a million (instead of just clearin it)( in December. A pretty great increase, there.
And yes, I expect sales to increase again next month. It's November. Duh.
XiaNaphryz
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They're likely separating the different PS3 SKUs I think.BenjaminBirdie said:
DeaconKnowledge
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Speevy said:
"Pack it in boys! It's all over!"
No. That's stupid.
Green Shinobi said:
My brother's an investment banker.. his girlfriend is in corporate sales. They've never had a video game system on their own. He's got 2 50"+ HDTVs.. both outfitted with Wii's. He'd never even consider getting anything else -- they're not really his thing. Trust me, it isn't just grannies buying them.
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Shepherd said:
A lot of people thought Halo 3 would be able to put the 360 on top from release through Christmas. It's all relative. Obviously it's provided a boost, and more than any other single game in a long while, with the possible exception of the bundled Wii Sports.
BenjaminBirdie
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DevelopmentArrested said:
I don't even know specifically what this might be referring to, yet I laugh.
Father_Brain
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Timedog said:
Depends which third party you are. I'm not sure Midway would agree with you, for instance.
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farnham said:
sonycowboy posted them in the software thread: 45.2k
Hcoregamer00
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The Experiment said:
Quoted for so much damn truth.
Gary Whitta said:
PS3 owner's average age is what? Does that demographic like games that are perceived as "teh kiddy" (even though I don't think Ratchet is). I can't believe someone hasn't released a dark, gritty bald space marine vs aliens gory shooter for PS3.
It's like Kameo all over again (only with a much, much better game).
BenjaminBirdie
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spwolf said:
You could also do Orange Box sales. It was an exclusive in October.
Gamer @ Heart
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Speevy said:
Jesus. How can people not see the sarcasm??? LOOK AT THE AUTHOR!
Hcoregamer00
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JaY P. said:
I am not saying I disagree with you. I was saying that at the moment the games that should be selling are not selling (Zack and Wiki), while games that don't deserve to sell (Wii Play and mario party) are selling like gangbusters.
I am hoping (as you are) that Mario Galaxy and Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles will start creating an adaption in the western market by the core gamer market. The statement that the sales will likely increase by a massive margin has a lot of truth because most of the Wii's getting bought will likely sit under a Christmas Tree and wont be opened for another month and a half.
My point is that higher software sales will be heralded by mario galaxy, a game that energizes the hardcore base. The same base nintendo should have aimed for from the outset to steal MS's thunder.
AfunkyArcadeStick
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Gamer @ Heart said:
Maybe it wasn't funny?
So the PS3 was outsold over 3x by the 360 and almost 4.3x by the Wii...
I think the chances of the PS3 not finishing third in America (by the time the first new console is launched) are looking very slim at this point.
To do so, it would actually have to *outsell* one or both of the others consistently at some point, and that seems unlikely.
BenjaminBirdie
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spwolf said:
Are just moving the goal posts around so you can still say the lowest one??
Guy Legend
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sillymonkey321 said:
I'd like to see Sony switch up the 80gb Motorstorm pack into a Ratchet pack next year. It would be a good move to get the game in more hands and show what the PS3 is capable of. Its friendly rating also gives it universal access and appeal.
Hcoregamer00
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MrNibbles said:
If you can find a 60 gig PS3 by then. I predict that most of them will be snatched up this holiday season with a trickle of them being availiable by January.
Kobun Heat
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Sony's official statement:
Nintendo says no statement this month. Microsoft's is incoming.
More: http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/11/sony-reacts-to.html
Nintendo says no statement this month. Microsoft's is incoming.
Gary Whitta
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Has PS3 ever had a title in the Top 10?
XiaNaphryz
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It's hard finding a 60 gig PS3 now, at least going by store websites.Hcoregamer00 said:
Well, Nintendo did make a few comments at least on IGN.Kobun Heat said: