MightyHedgehog said:
That's all well and good that you think the way that you do, but I'm merely disputing your choice of the words, 'just as likely.' It's just not true, IMO. With an already sunk investment of money and time into the platform with peripherals they can easily reuse/continue to use, why would the average banned user incur a greater cost to get up 'n running fresh on the other platform...leaving behind in-game progress, established friends lists and community? Why would they do that? And, like Rhindle points out...the PS3 hasn't been hacked while X360 offers the chance for those incorrigible pirates to have a shot at continuing the dream of free HD console shit.
Or, they could fed up enough where they're willing to just leave. I'm not sure how many pirates are willing to rebuy the console they just got banned from, but I am fairly sure that there aren't that many where it will push the 360 over the PS3, much less the Wii.
What the hell are you talking about? Everything? I'm merely pointing out that November features a bigger month of high profile software that stacks in favor of X360 over PS3 as a contributing reason to sway a busted and banned X360 pirate from switching platforms. Certainly, if all they put into the platform was the cost of a system without buying anything else aside from a Gold membership, I could see them cutting out and starting fresh on PS3 if they felt so inclined.
Ok, so we're clear, I'm not saying that the PS3 line-up is almighty. I am however saying that the 360 somehow has a leg up over the PS3 when it comes to November software is pretty dumb. Both of the big titles are multiplatform. What is going to push someone over the edge to the 360? Forza? I'll bet on Uncharted 2 before that, just becauswe it's received more mainstream exposure (NYTimes write-up for example).
True enough that a lot of if not most pirates know better than to buy HDMI cables at the exorbitant prices seen in brick 'n mortar, but a lot of folks with modded systems, I'm betting, are know-nothings who had a friend, family member, or acquaintance do it for them.
Pirates? Try people. Amazon has HDMI cable for about 19 cents. Saying that modded system people are dumb to look for an HDMI cable on Amazon is a stretch at the least.
Argue it then. I'm not interested, really. I think that, like most hyped and super-anticipated sequels with a massive marketing spend, MW2 will generate console sales. How much is arguable, but I think it's pretty much impossible to think that the hype wave won't see some folks getting a brand new system along with it for the holiday season. I meant it in my post as a strong contributing factor, not a sole reason...but I don't think you're interested in what I actually thought.
Not exactly. MW2 sold around 14 million, WaW sold 11ish. I'm saying that for the most part, consoles aren't going to move because of this release on the scale you're expecting, because most of those players already own one of the two HD twins.
I never said anything about this shit. My post was about Yoboman's talk of 'just as likely'...as I pointed out twice in that post. Your assumption that I was talking about the whole situation of who is going to kick butt at retail this Xmas season is apparently where we split up on the road in thinking. There's nothing to save here. X360 is doing pretty decently (especially on software), PS3 is doing a lot better (in the last two months after the price drop and rebranding) than it was in the past year previous, and Wii is still going strong. All, however, are suffering lower than desired numbers because gaming spending, on the whole, has suffered in this climate. Whose holiday season is there to save?
Allow me to clarify. I'm expecting YoY declines, even with the price drop. The PS3 might have an increase only because its sales the previous cycles were so low. And I'm saying that its unreasonable to expect anything to stop the 360 from finishing 3rd this time around.