shit happens. some were soured over the last two releases, some were tired of halo, some moved on to ps4 and pc, some haven't upgraded yet, a lot of big games are releasing in the next two weeks etc...
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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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shit happens. some were soured over the last two releases, some were tired of halo, some moved on to ps4 and pc, some haven't upgraded yet, a lot of big games are releasing in the next two weeks etc...
Obliterator
Member
No idea on sell through. Off the top of my head in 2015
Mortal Kombat
Batman Arkham Knight
NBA 2K16
Battlefield Hardline
All hit 1 million in their first NPD month. I may be forgetting some though
The Mad Draklor
Member
Actually, the XBO is at the same price as last November.
3rdamention
Member
Because that is what he does. He has done that a couple of times in this thread, and that is normally how the first little NPD info gets leaked, through little hints. It it sold over a million, then I have no idea what Queso meant by that post.
Mass Effect
Member
I honestly kind of expected. I've been saying Halo has been on decline (saleswise) since Reach. If what's been said about Halo 5's sales is true, and it continues to sell relatively low compared to its predecessors through the holiday, this the proof.
I seriously hope not. Within context, Sony's first party sales have been pretty great across the board (with a couple of exceptions) despite many of the games being of questionable quality. I mean killzone sold great, Infamous sold great, Bloodborne sold great. Even Until Dawn did really well despite being sent out with little to no marketing. I feel if Uncharted 4 releases with enough critical acclaim it could very easily be the best selling in the franchise. Using Halo 5 as an example of dwindling first party sales is not fair imo for the number of reasons people have pointed out already.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
That's not the point. Did you follow the conversation or just decide to jump in at my post?
Obliterator
Member
The denial around Halo numbers from some is real. Its going to take a while to sink in for some just how much that franchise has fallen off.
Warm Machine
Member
This gen I haven't even showed up on NPD. Both consoles were bought direct from the manufacturer and every game I've purchased has been digital.
No chance in hell.
Nov and Dec are dominated by multi platform games because of the various sales. With these numbers it will be a struggle for Halo to just make it back next month.
Some folks have already answered, but yeah, that wasn't his first reply to this end. Plus the fact that he looks to have been backed up by John... it doesn't look good.
From what I remember it was $330 last year vs $300 this year. Not a huge difference but still cheaper, and with some bigger games this year like Halo it should sell more.
Indeed.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
That is going to be VERY interesting and probably the biggest question mark after which console will sell the most. Not looking good so far from what the retail insiders have said.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Of course they going to get money from packaged sales .
Only way that don't happen is if UC4 flops .
Beautiful Ninja
Member
No way I think, XCX doesn't have the appeal of Yoshi along with software sales being really high with everyone buying up for the holidays. There just aren't enough Wii U's out there for that.
Liabe Brave
Member
Earlier in the thread he also said VinFTW had a crystal ball when he expected under a million sales. He's been vague because he's leaking proprietary information. But when he and John Harker say the same thing, you can cash it.
Aceofspades
Banned
What are you on about? Oh . . the digital percentage argument !
Primethius
Banned
I dunno what I'm missing? Sorry I misread, I guess.
Iced Arcade
Member
how many days of Oct was Halo 5 available?
Obliterator
Member
I expect a similar reaction to TR numbers next month no doubt unless it gets a crazy BF deal somewhere
The Mad Draklor
Member
Aren't those the prices during Black Friday? I was talking about November, in general.
You would be surprised by the amount of data you can extract from cheese, let along a cosmic one.
Japanmanx3
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Bolivar687
Banned
We like to joke about our anecdotal friends but you can't dismiss digital for Halo since it's been getting a bigger chunk of retail all the time. Still, the serious declined. They should have followed up on Halo 3 a lot sooner than they did with a proper Halo 4 - not ODST or Reach without Master Chief. Instead 4 and MCC both damaged the brand over those last 3 years and it's not going to be in the sales stratosphere it once was.
As far as PS4, $50 was just not meaningful in anyway when XB1 has been there for a year. But Destiny carried a lot of momentum for them last Fall and a lot of people are waiting for CoD and Battlefront bundles, we've already seen the preorders stack up in the months prior. If November and December aren't as huge as everyone thought they would be, as in much bigger than last holiday, then yeah, we can call this Gen front loaded.
As far as PS4, $50 was just not meaningful in anyway when XB1 has been there for a year. But Destiny carried a lot of momentum for them last Fall and a lot of people are waiting for CoD and Battlefront bundles, we've already seen the preorders stack up in the months prior. If November and December aren't as huge as everyone thought they would be, as in much bigger than last holiday, then yeah, we can call this Gen front loaded.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
I'm waiting for the meltdowns if it doesn't chart.
He's pointing out an error in your post. You mentioned that at least initially, Destiny was doing better numbers on Xbox One. That's false.
yea i highly doubt uncharted 4 will have a decline. that title is going to sell better than uncharted 3 especially releasing during march.
DarthWalden
Banned
Honestly when you Include digital and bundled copies I'm guessing it's about a 50% decline and when you think bout how big halo was then to today it's not great but it's also not that unlikely
I guess a chunk of the Halo fanbase jumped ship to Destiny but still a surprising collapse. What's a reasonable estimate of worldwide lifetime sales target for Halo 5 now? 3-5M?
AC below NBA means what? 500K? Lifetime target of 2-4M?
Really competitive in terms of software releases the last 4 months of this year even without including the seeming growing strength in sports games. I can see Ubisoft really suffering this holiday season. Also don't know if Tomb Raider will get reasonable sales.
AC below NBA means what? 500K? Lifetime target of 2-4M?
Really competitive in terms of software releases the last 4 months of this year even without including the seeming growing strength in sports games. I can see Ubisoft really suffering this holiday season. Also don't know if Tomb Raider will get reasonable sales.
Liabe Brave
Member
Two. I believe them, too. Looks like ~900K from the comments, then.
Obliterator
Member
We are all so focused on Halo but dudes
AC sales nust be TERRIBLE as well. 2 franchises that have just totally collapsed in comparison to what they were at their peaks
AC sales nust be TERRIBLE as well. 2 franchises that have just totally collapsed in comparison to what they were at their peaks
Warm Machine
Member
I know a lot of people who traditionally would have bought Halo but are playing Destiny instead. The market can probably only support 3-5 FPS games tops, especially with how long the tail is on games now.
The Mad Draklor
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Iced Arcade
Member
5 days out of 31 lol
k thanks. no idea why but I was thinking it was mid month for some reason.
gundamkyoukai
Member
That should be easy unless UC4 flops .
Sony make around 35 to 40 a copy and we not counting DD sales .
If UC 4 sell 5 million in it's first month they will easily cover everything .
Can't cost more than 100 million to make and for marketing .
Well they both have something in common bad WOM after the last game.
PS4 selling less than last year even with a price cut is all kinds of crazy. It had the entire month with the Uncharted bundle. Don't think it's because of Halo seeing how XB1's sales aren't too hot either, and the gap isn't big (from what was hinted anyway).
So what's going on? People finally realised it's better to buy these consoles in November?
Michael Pachter redeemed.
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Oh yeah...........Amazon fail majorly hard. Pre orders be damned.
So what's going on? People finally realised it's better to buy these consoles in November?
Michael Pachter redeemed.
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Oh yeah...........Amazon fail majorly hard. Pre orders be damned.
ethomaz
Banned
Halo 2 ~3.3m
Halo 3 ~3.3m
Reach ~3.3m
Halo 4 ~3.3m
ODST ~1.5m
Halo 5 < 1m
It is a huge flop... being #1 means nothing with these low numbers for Halo franchise.
Giriath_89
Member
I'm really hungry for that pie. I'm sad Halo is down so much, but I do want to see GAF burn before I go to sleep.
AC can at least be attributed to franchise fatigue. Halo really has no excuse
Xenoblade would have to sell 500K at the minimum, and December in general would be a disaster if freaking Xenoblade made it up there. Open-world RPGs may be popular, but not on the Wii U's tiny install base.