Phil Spencer already said they are moving away from these type of deals as stated above. What they will do more of is like with Creative Assembly, Remedy, Comcept/Armature, etc. and get developers to make 1st party (ip's owned by MS) games for them.
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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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Phil Spencer already said they are moving away from these type of deals as stated above. What they will do more of is like with Creative Assembly, Remedy, Comcept/Armature, etc. and get developers to make 1st party (ip's owned by MS) games for them.
Please sir, check the batteries in your sarcasm-detector.
There will always be studios like platinum, armature, remedy that they can contract to make games.
But a third party exclusive like TR? I don't see that happening again unless it's with Capcom lol
CosmicQueso
Member
Why not the top 50? Why not the hardware? Why not the whole data set in a .csv on a Dropbox?
Katana_Strikes
Member
We are lucky they give us the scraps they do these days. Surprised it's not a top 5 or only the best selling game the way they've hidden public data as time has gone on. Still time for all that I suppose.
Microsoft Gives Sony Victory.
Stupid question from someone, who never actually bothered too much about sales numbers.
Especially in the last year we saw an increased number of content heavy open world games almost every month of the year.
Is it possible those games, especially considering the amount of time they occupy, keep people from buying more games? Do open world games cannibalize each other?
Especially in the last year we saw an increased number of content heavy open world games almost every month of the year.
Is it possible those games, especially considering the amount of time they occupy, keep people from buying more games? Do open world games cannibalize each other?
I think Phil said he was moving away from third party deals, or at least not relying on them as much going forward.
As for install base, I think MS gets back on the bigger side if they push forward to their supposed future of releasing things on Windows 10 as opposed to any single device. We've already had two MS execs says that's the plan, so who knows what they'll do when they finally get there.
Infernostew
Member
So, like what everyone is doing except marketing deals that they can't get?
Hm, wonder how high. Because that would be Mario Maker sales without the bundle.
slavesnyder
Member
We are moving away from exclusivity deals. They don't fit to our overall strategy.
We don't talk about sales numbers. Online statistics are much more important.
Console wars talk should end. It's immature.
LegendofLex
Member
They actually used to release data by SKUs, but they've instead decided to throw multiplatform games a bone by lumping all their sales together. (Why? Third-party lobbying, I'd imagine. Plus the console makers don't like people to see how narrow the retail market is becoming.)
CosmicQueso
Member
Third party publishers are the absolute worst.
Sectorseven
Member
Wasn't there another company not too long ago that said they were going to be reporting weekly sales?
mejin
Member
If Microsoft or Nintendo start doing their job we won't see Sony being lazy. Playstation as market leader pushes japanese developers up. Look at SE on PS3 gen and now. Huge difference.
Good point. That's a very nice perk. However, even if the PS3 dominated in the U.S., SE would still be crappy during that gen. I think it's a combination of SE getting a new CEO and to a lesser extent, Sony being the market leader.
SEGAvangelist
Member
They don't really have an Assassin's Creed team. All those devs will just work on something else like Watch Dogs or Far Cry etc... Maybe we see that pirate open world game they were surveying soon.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Rare pirate game vs. Ubisoft pirate game. Bring it on.
Pirate game with massive Ghost Recon: Wildlands style open world + Watch Dogs multiplayer invasions = GOTY
It's for the best in November and December, unless you want 6 of the 10 titles to be Fallout 4, BLOPS 3, and Battlefront 3 next month (and probably December as well).
DeepEnigma
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I have a feeling this is what it is. Combined with more enticing November bundles.
slavesnyder
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The kinect studio vs. the open world game assembly line. Yummy.
FunkyPajamas
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185348015&postcount=3971Quick summary for Uncharted Collection, please. How many copies + bundle ( if data exits ).
And also data for Assassins Creed : Syndicate.
Thanks!
Bolivar687
Banned
So October is like that final preseason game where the novelty of Exhibition months has worn off, the teams have revealed their rosters, and everybody's just waiting for the season to kick off.
Wait, didn't leaked Holiday ads start appearing well after the period tracked for October NPD sales closed? In that case, attributing lower sales to people already knowing about specific Holiday deals wouldn't make that much sense.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So your plan was to only sell a paltry 305K with your largest franchise to boot?
And your plan was to hope Sony sold less instead of improving YoY (which lucky for MSFT that happened, and it would have looked even worse if Sony broke even with last October sales)?
I know your job is to PR, but that does not sound like some sound or exciting "plans", lol. More like lucky Sony did not have UC4 this October if these numbers are anything to go by.
November is going to be fun month for these threads.
Now that I think about it, do we have a decent recap of hardware Black Friday deals (i.e. not just the well-known bundles themselves, but special offers with coupons/free games etc.etc.)? I'd love, if possible, to make a comparison with last year's deals.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I am unsure when the ads came out to be honest, but people seen the price cuts, and knew last year had huge BF deals, so even without the ads timing, it is common knowledge to maybe wait if last year was any indication.
As for the bundles, those November PS4 bundles (CoD/Battlefront) have been high on the Amazon chart and stayed pretty much to this day in the same position since September. People are wanting those hot bundles. I know I have a Star Wars one pre-ordered, and will be selling my launch unit.
Agreed. Some people's thought process, lol. They are not fighting on corporate levels like console fans. They are fighting themselves to look better every board meeting.
get2sammyb
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It's ridiculous to think Sony will get "complacent" even if Nintendo and Microsoft aren't competing with them. Sony aren't idiots - they know they're competing against smartphones, tablets, and all other kinds of entertainment mediums in this day and age.
Sony needs to work hard whether the Xbox or Wii U's selling or not.
Sony needs to work hard whether the Xbox or Wii U's selling or not.
this was the death that made me turn off the game and never play it again
Their plan was yo sell most console. And they did. Stop nitpicking thier PR words now.
And what you mean by lucky? Thats like saying Sony got lucky because MS fucked up their initial reveal
Dash_Riprock
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There's not even a drop of blood. And she should have been killed instantly instead of grabbing at it. Its stupid more than anything.
slavesnyder
Member
You misspelled handhelds. 3DS and Vita are the platforms pushing Japanese developers "up" in the traditional market.
LegendofDragoonLives
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I don't understand how we're 2 years in and we don't have a single AAA title on PS+ when it's mandatory now. And don't get me started on U4 not having dedicated servers. I genuenly have no idea what the PS+ mandatory is for other than them taking all the money. They haven't shown what it's used for, and I wish someone would call them out on it.. preferably at a big show to humble and humiliate them a little bit.
The Mad Draklor
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Some data for Madden 16 and FIFA 16???
Sure and if you system is selling like hot cakes and you do 50$ price drop. It is also expected to have huge impact. But it did not. Now I know most of you guys will tell me oh but...all the best PS4 bundles coming in Nov. Well sure, but so are Xbox One.
All I am saying is, they both disappointed in numbers, saying one is more disappointing is silly.
Nov will be telling the most.
The Mad Draklor
Member
The conversation is about the PR statement, though, not about the PS4's sales nor was I claiming one is more disappointing than the other. If you want to talk about that, fine, but that's not related to the actual topic, which was Greenburg's PR. Considering you don't seem to have anything else to add, I guess the conversation is done?
ZSaberLink
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I want 1 $10,000 csv on a dropbox for free please =D. Jk.
On a more serious note, Cosmic, any thoughts on how the PS4, XB1 & Wii U will do this holiday? Or how Nintendo Direct announcements affect likely US sales for the Wii U / 3DS (software/hardware)?
Also we have nothing on 3DS right?... I assume it's down YoY, but I'm curious by how much.
Edit: Wait, this is the quote from IGN "The company added that sales “have increased more than 20 percent in the first 10 months of 2015” year-over-year." for the Wii U. I thought it was easily down YoY. Is this software as well?
Quick summary for Uncharted Collection, please. How many copies + bundle ( if data exits ).
And also data for Assassins Creed : Syndicate.
Thanks!
UCC w/bundles >300K
AC: Syndicate ~391K
Their plan was to sell the most console and they did despite Sony's price drop.
get2sammyb
Member
To be fair to Greenburg, what do you want him to say?
Dash_Riprock
Member
Anyone else remember WAAAY back in 2007 when Ubisoft said AC was going to be a trilogy?
Are we assuming that servers for the PSN service are free?