The Mad Draklor
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By means of the "greatest games lineup". The numbers tell me the XBO won not because (or not solely because) of its lineup....
Fair enough.
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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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By means of the "greatest games lineup". The numbers tell me the XBO won not because (or not solely because) of its lineup....
Fair enough.
Technically they didn't lie. We did Enzio's trilogy.
Oh you didn't know? Sony runs the PSN servers through makeshift satellites and some tin foil to bounce the signal in certain directions! Comes at no cost at all.
slavesnyder
Member
Ask 2 people and get 3 opinions.
I heard it's about profit.
Now that they sold more consoles it's about that.
And I thought it's about the first this gen iteration of their biggest exclusive trying to push the maximum of sales in hardware and software. Because it's their best and maybe last chance for quite a while to win big.
Thanks to LoudNinja and you. Data for Fifa 16 and Madden 16?
Then how did they sold more than PS4 despite Sony's price drop? GAMES GAMES GAMES.
Hockeymac18
Member
His job is PR. If you think he wouldn't comment on NPD results, you're misunderstanding his entire job.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I thought their plan was not to fight in a console war any longer, and it was not about numbers anymore?
I can see why now, considering their flagship did not even break a million units combined.
Yep.
IIRC under 300K including bundles. Just look up NPD_George's posts from earlier today. You won't be disappointed.
it can be inferred that they sold less than 300k and more than 200k
The Mad Draklor
Member
lmao its like some people just want to downplay the shit out of MS good news. Let me emphasis this. Dat barely beat happened even after Sony announced price drop.
Of course man of course. I totally forgot that everyone is just waiting to buy PS4 for COD and BF. Microsoft will just stop selling thier console next month and wont even advertise free game and no one wants Fallout, tomb raider bundles. Like no one.
lol
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And you are overplaying it. This is not a good sign for MSFT either. But they will have board members to answer to, as to how their "plan" was to have much lower Halo/system sales than projected I am sure.
How do you even go to one extreme like this? Nobody is saying that, like, at all. Cut out the persecution complex. Goodness.
391k and AC doesn't has bundle in USA.
And the argument just shifted, lmao. Go read my post. Microsoft took over because of Halo. And halo is a game. Its one of their game in biggest game line up.
RedAssedApe
Banned
was there even a syndicate sku bundle this year?
The Mad Draklor
Member
Oh great, here comes the persecution complex...
Interesting that "people" equates to "everyone". You're not helping yourself, OEM...
Get out of my brain, DeepEnigma! xP
OK thanks, still very low, seems like a very dramatic drop, can really one bad game (Unity) ruin a franchise like this? how can a franchise that sold millions last time can get as low as 391k a game after, that's crazy.
And I guess Sony knew what they are doing by not releasing a bundle for this game in the US.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
And MS released their flagship product which barely pushed Xbone over PS4. And that flagship product's sales are almost catasthropic. MS makes good money from Halo 5, yes, but its attach rate is around 10% and that is horrible for a flagship product of any sorts.
This "victory" is bittersweet. Most people wouldn't call this a victory at all.
After Unity is not that surprising. Although, according to many here on GAF/Interwebs WOM seems to be positive. Maybe the $30 price during BF along with positive WOM might help its numbers. That's assuming WOM matters at all.
MGSV dropping out completely and being under 200K sold is much more surprising.
391k is downright embarrassing for Assassins Creed.
For a AAA flavour of the month game? Not really. It launched in early September. Die hard fans would have bought their copies week 1 if not day 1.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
woah dude, picked up were i left yesterday and 10+ pages in shit gets crazy and those numbers too
I guess you forgot about that time Microsoft announced they were doing a price drop the following month and like no one bought a Xbox one that month
You're so blinded by console war stuff you're not seeing the bigger picture here at all, like how yeah....Microsoft won but not by the margin they or anyone else wanted them to win by
I found NPD's posts. But... FIFA 16 and Madden 16 combined or each less than 300k?
The game is out on 4 consoles and PC. Contender for GOTY and we are just chucking it up to be being flavor of the month... okay.
Little early to be calling this. Go back and look at Halo 3's sales. Yes it debuted higher, but what you should take a look at is how it ended up selling several million copies over the course of the months through the end of 2007.
I don't think anyone is expecting Halo 5 to play catch up to Halo 3, the circumstances for the Xbox 360 and the Halo franchise were totally different back then, but we'll get a much better sense of where the Xbox and Halo franchise are at when we get past the holiday.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
New franchise vs established cash cow.
Am i the only guy who is not shocked about AC numbers?
I mean, i predicted a bit less than 500k, so, it still sold under what i predicted, but those poor performance was expected.
...Really? A new IP compared to a series which usually sold > 3 million?
Also, TLOU has sold OVER 1 million, not < 1 million.
I mean, i predicted a bit less than 500k, so, it still sold under what i predicted, but those poor performance was expected.
...Really? A new IP compared to a series which usually sold > 3 million?
Also, TLOU has sold OVER 1 million, not < 1 million.
Bolivar687
Banned
No, myself and a lot of commentators were definitely with you. Even regardless of Unity's hiccups, a lot of us were expecting the series to start running out of steam with this one.
Interficium
Banned
Throwing out all the sales numbers:
Halo 5 has a 10% attach.
That is a catastrophic number for a first-party flagship title and will probably result in leadership changes @ 343i if it holds.
Halo 5 has a 10% attach.
That is a catastrophic number for a first-party flagship title and will probably result in leadership changes @ 343i if it holds.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
Of course! I'm most certain that Halo will sell tons on BF and holidays. It'll end up at around 4 or 5 mil I guess.
Yeah, Halo 5 tells the story of Xbone. Xbox is Halo, Halo is Xbox. You can see how healthy the console is by checking out how mainline Halo sales go.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Really? You really asked this question? With a Street Fighter avatar an all?
CosmicQueso
Member
OEM, everyone did terribly in October. I've been called an MS shill, I've been called a Sony shill. So, apparently I'm an asshole equally to both camps. But really, it wasn't a great month. I guess they did hit the goal of being #1 in October, which is good. But the actual data points are disappointing for everyone. Well, everyone except maybe Yoshi. Like, it wasn't a good month, and to spin it as such is ignoring the bigger picture, don't you think?
EDIT: Okay, I see the point you were trying to make now.
Hi. I'm not as good at forecasting hardware as most (or all) in the predictions thread. I focus much more on software, and since both boxes are market viable, I generally think much more about software splits between the platforms for the next few years. That being said, despite September and October maybe being a bit disappointing, don't see any reason why the sales of both boxes combined couldn't get close to, or slightly exceed, last year. But really the aggregate predictions of GAF are as good or better than any professional forecast you'd find. And there are a bunch of normal forecasters in that thread whose opinions I'd take way before mine lol.
I've actually never looked to see if anything can be found to suggest there is a relationship here. To be fair though, monthly data is absolutely horrid to find causal relationships between individual influencers on sales. Impossible, really.
Safe assumption.
IGN really goofed on interpreting that stuff today. Yeah that's software revenues.
EDIT: Okay, I see the point you were trying to make now.
Hi. I'm not as good at forecasting hardware as most (or all) in the predictions thread. I focus much more on software, and since both boxes are market viable, I generally think much more about software splits between the platforms for the next few years. That being said, despite September and October maybe being a bit disappointing, don't see any reason why the sales of both boxes combined couldn't get close to, or slightly exceed, last year. But really the aggregate predictions of GAF are as good or better than any professional forecast you'd find. And there are a bunch of normal forecasters in that thread whose opinions I'd take way before mine lol.
I've actually never looked to see if anything can be found to suggest there is a relationship here. To be fair though, monthly data is absolutely horrid to find causal relationships between individual influencers on sales. Impossible, really.
Safe assumption.
IGN really goofed on interpreting that stuff today. Yeah that's software revenues.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
There's not a misspell here because he is telling the truth. Japanese developers making games for consoles again are finally alive and finally sort of doing well because a Japanese maker is the market leader. We see how handheld devices are going with more and more companies switching to mobile. Sony is absolutely bringing out the woodwork for these developers to thrive in the AAA market again after so many years.
THIS. THIS FUCKING RIGHT HERE. This is EXACTLY what I am saying. They both did bad. The only issue I have is, some warriors are some how turning Sony's bad into the following.
1). With only Uncharted remaster, Xbox only did slightly more. So in a way Sony won.
2). Consumers are waiting for Nov bundles. Thats why its low. But not sure why this wouldn't apply for Xbox but sure lol
3). Xbox did price drop and no one bought XBox One either (not sure what this has to do with anything here)
aaronwt
Member
Don't you mean attach rate for five days of sales?