Well done on being an idiot, Im not talking about how many xtards got suckered in, its system sales we're talking about. How many consoles Halo3 pushed, must be the biggest publicity blizt ever seen right, best game ever and all, surely should push more systems than its predecessor?besada said:
NPD Sales Results for September 2007
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Maxwell House
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Well, bigger installed based, more software sales = more future 3rd party support.rakka said:
So, it's not the worst basis to make a decision on.
speculawyer
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Kbsmoker said:
Depends on how you look at it . . . the Wii could be considered a failure . . . it sells over 500K units of h/w but can only get a single game in the top 10 software? (Two if you count Wii Play, but I don't count Wii Play, that is hardware.) The PS3 sold dick for hardware and it got Heavenly Sword in the Top 10.
eclipze
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indie85 said:
You do realize that when Halo 2 launched, it was in November, which is part of the holiday season. Halo 3 launched in September, well before the start of the holiday rush. Factor in the difference in price and it's easy to see that Halo 3 was much more successful than Halo 2. In the same amount of time it sold 600k more on an install base of 4 million less for fucks sake. Thats the epitome of success.
edit: calling people xtards is not quite acceptable around these parts. i would refrain from such comments if i were you.
hmmm, looks like i underestimated the demand for a new 360
and overestimated the supply for the Wii a bit this month i was right about software for the most part, Bioshock did end up getting beat by MP3, though i'm thoroughly surprised that MP3 didn't put up bigger numbers. still, i expect
it to remain in the top ten next month, showing similar legs to that of Twilight Princess. i also called the PS2 madden overtaking the 360 madden and Brain Age 2 making the top 10. forgot that skate and heavenly sword launched, though i'm a bit surprised that skate made the top 10.
honestly i expect 360 and halo numbers to fall sharply for october. i'm certain that halo 3 will still be in the top 10, but the 360 will not be top dog next month. 360 numbers probably wont be all the way down to sub 200k, but Wii supply will certainly outstrip as it has started to rise this week.
i wonder how many of those were second systems...
hope
honestly i expect 360 and halo numbers to fall sharply for october. i'm certain that halo 3 will still be in the top 10, but the 360 will not be top dog next month. 360 numbers probably wont be all the way down to sub 200k, but Wii supply will certainly outstrip as it has started to rise this week.
Reggie was right, at least so far.
Halo 3, far and away, sold mostly to people who already owned the system. If you account the 300k increase in 360 hardware sales from last month to this month to Halo 3s release, then only around 11 percent of those that bought Halo 3 purchased a system with it.
Halo 3, far and away, sold mostly to people who already owned the system. If you account the 300k increase in 360 hardware sales from last month to this month to Halo 3s release, then only around 11 percent of those that bought Halo 3 purchased a system with it.
Particle Physicist
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Lefty42o said:
did not know that.
Ok, bravo on not being able to read a chart, the gap at the beginning on launch day of ps3 was BIGGER than it currently is today, ie it has SHRUNK. Again, at $600 with no big hitters and yet 360 hasnt managed to extend any lead during this period, but to the contrary and this is supposed to be 'THAT bad'?Hcoregamer00 said:
speculawyer said:
When I bought Wii Play at Target back in February or whenever it was released, there was a mid 30's-ish soccer mom behind me that wanted to buy it. She asked me if it was "Wii Sports 2."
I really don't think people are buying it for the controller. Why spend 10 bucks extra for a controller? I really think people (the Wii Sports crowd) see Wii Play as a companion to Wii Sports, which it kind of is.
And yeah, anecdotal evidence blah blah blah.
Absinthe (Permed)
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beef3483 said:
Pretty much. I think that Halo 3 will be in the top ten next month, but it's going to suffer from a swift fall. It's not like they're going to sell 3.3 million copies again next month.
If Sony can't make an impact next month with the big price drop then I really do think they're in trouble.
There aren't any Wii games besides Metroid Prime 3 that DESERVE to be in the top ten. Maybe when developers have a good game on the system and it tanks they have the right to complain that their games aren't selling, but they can't not make games and then complain when consumers don't buy those games that don't exist.speculawyer said:
Nearly every Wii title with critical praise has sold well.
So they're not in trouble yet?Absinthe said:
Wow at the 360 numbers - huge! 100k more than I thought. Halo 3 was huge like expected and it still managed some good 3rd party software numbers. Quickly becoming the 3rd party platform of choice.
Wii continues to sell well but no one is buying software for it (Wii Play sells for the extra controller IMHO). I picture a bunch of soccer moms playing Wii Sports and Wii fit on it but not much else. 3rd party software sales are nonexistent. The hardcore nintendo faithful support first party titles like MP3 but abandon the 3rd party stuff - not a good sign for anyone but nintendo.
PS3 - this thing is dieing a slow death. Sad to see. You think it would sell more than 20k a week just because it's the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market. With 360's install base millions of consoles ahead and growing the PS3 is destined to be a 360 port machine. Good first party software can't come soon enough but I am beginning to feel 08 will be too late for Sony. If the 40GB sku doesn't triple sales PS3 is dead in NA.
Wii continues to sell well but no one is buying software for it (Wii Play sells for the extra controller IMHO). I picture a bunch of soccer moms playing Wii Sports and Wii fit on it but not much else. 3rd party software sales are nonexistent. The hardcore nintendo faithful support first party titles like MP3 but abandon the 3rd party stuff - not a good sign for anyone but nintendo.
PS3 - this thing is dieing a slow death. Sad to see. You think it would sell more than 20k a week just because it's the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market. With 360's install base millions of consoles ahead and growing the PS3 is destined to be a 360 port machine. Good first party software can't come soon enough but I am beginning to feel 08 will be too late for Sony. If the 40GB sku doesn't triple sales PS3 is dead in NA.
Maxwell House
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As everyone has already pointed out, September vs November. That isn't even close to being a fair comparison.indie85 said:
I bet 360 sells more than 708k units this November.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
What games are all these Wii owners buying?
Just... wow.
Just... wow.
:lol at the bitter tears.
More to the point: it is painfully obvious that Halo 3 was the motivator behind the 360 purchases. Congratulations to MS in North America, really. But time will tell if this momentum keeps up by Black Friday and into early Q8.
(PS. SHAMEFUL PS3 sales.
And I own one too. No system sellers and a relatively slow September for Sony makes me a sad panda.)
More to the point: it is painfully obvious that Halo 3 was the motivator behind the 360 purchases. Congratulations to MS in North America, really. But time will tell if this momentum keeps up by Black Friday and into early Q8.
(PS. SHAMEFUL PS3 sales.
And I own one too. No system sellers and a relatively slow September for Sony makes me a sad panda.)Maxwell House
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Yes, it got smaller due to the LAUNCH, but the gap between 360 and PS3 is back to almost pre PS3 launch levels now. I believe 360 only had 6.5 million units sold worldwide when PS3 game out, so actually, the gap might be the same now as it was pre-PS3 launch.indie85 said:
Anyways, I predict 360 to have at least a 7 million unit gap on PS3 by the end of Christmas worldwide.
Edit: That chart shows 360 having sold 7.5 million by PS3 launch. Hmm...
indie85 said:
so what would you call it when a game comes out and the hardware numbers spike and infact almost double?
thew point is did ms sell more hardware cause of halo 3? looks like it. yes it could have done better. alot of things could happen. but your posts on the matter are baffling cause if the 500,000 was not from halo 3 than maybe the 360 has started selling at wii levels.
i personally feel the spike was cause of halo 3 but if you want to say the 360 is now selling on its own at wii levels fine by me 2
GarthVaderUK
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beef3483 said:
Last month was the month of the 360 price cut, so numbers for that month are higher than usual.
September NPD accounts for 11(?) days of Halo 3 sales, I'm sure the game and the hardware is still selling well through October, and will receive another boost in November (with an even larger boost in December, as usual).
TheKurgan said:
3rd parties on Wii are trying to be Nintendo and are trying to make Nintendo games. They see Nintendo's initial success and try to rush to the market and capitalize on it. Carnival Games, EA's casual line, etc. 3rd parties need to realize they aren't Nintendo and come up with something original.
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Absinthe said:
PS3 may very well drop to below 100K in October. 1 less week, rumors of another price drop for a couple of weeks, $399 system announced 2 weeks before end of the month. Unless there is a demand for the 80GB unit people are going to hold off until November.
360 had a great month thanks to Halo. I wonder if this is gonna hold all the way through the holidays. Could be huge for them this year.
The PS3 is floundering, to be nice. Nothing will save it, I guess *hugs PS3*. It's ok, baby, we'll make it through this somehow.
Wii...fuck you.
Halo3 sales are ridonkulous. Bungie and MS did a good job with everything from the marketing to the release, and that's a very nice payday for a lot of people. 3.3 jillion sales confirmed. :lol PEACE.
The PS3 is floundering, to be nice. Nothing will save it, I guess *hugs PS3*. It's ok, baby, we'll make it through this somehow.
Wii...fuck you.
Halo3 sales are ridonkulous. Bungie and MS did a good job with everything from the marketing to the release, and that's a very nice payday for a lot of people. 3.3 jillion sales confirmed. :lol PEACE.