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NPD Sales Results for September 2014 [Up1: Smash/HW/MK8, Destiny stats, 3DS HW]

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stryke

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BY2K

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Michael Pachter ‏@michaelpachter 3m3 minutes ago
PS4 HW sales up almost triple in September and more than double my estimate. Fortunately, my report contained over 40 estimates, many closer
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Still winning.

Ugh
 
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Mets39

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So that's basically the highest result ever for a Playstation system for the month of september right ? Just to put some perspective ^^
Still far from Wii September 2008 but it doesn't get much better than that anyway.
XB1 did better than i expected so that's good.
As of the software decline, it was expected thanks to GTA V ; p
 
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I'm not from the US so NPD has no real bearing on me. But man alive, NPD threads are always the shizzle. Seriously, GAF should charge admission fees for this entertainment.

As for controlling leaks, what about a members only NPD sub-forum? I'll be honest, I understand the reasoning but the quote thing is a bit of a ball ache on iPad.
 
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wmlk

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CrazedProfessional said:
There's really nothing wrong with my NOA comment, North America should have the New 3DS by now or next month, and yet - nothing.
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It's an exception to the rule. 'Destroyed' is going a bit too far, don't you think?

You could say Nintendo AU NZ should be revamped and that would actually make sense.
 
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BradleyLove said:
I'm not from the US so NPD has no real bearing on me. But man alive, NPD threads are always the shizzle. Seriously, GAF should charge admission fees for this entertainment.

As for controlling leaks, what about a members only NPD sub-forum? I'll be honest, I understand the reasoning but the quote thing is a bit of a ball ache on iPad.
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Well, someone ask EviLore / the admins if we could get a [membersonly] [/membersonly] code that only makes certain dialog show up when a Member (or a permanently Juniored member) sees it.

This is an interim solution.
 
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Hiko

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Miles Quaritch said:
As ridiculous as this might appear at first glance, there is a small element of truth and it shouldn't be dismissed because of the rest of the post.

What is really selling the PS4 over the X1? It's certainly not the exclusive software. It can't be games like Destiny, which are also available on the competing platform.

So it stands to reason that people are buying into the idea of the PS4 more than anything else. It's the platform of choice for this generation, everything about the platform has fed into this idea, from the day it was revealed to the day it launched, there's been a strong belief that the PS4 is the only console to get.

it's the true games console, the only one that will provide the best and most engaging gaming experiences. The idea took root and it's one that MS will be fighting (a losing battle) for the entire generation.

People can pretend MS has a chance so future NPD threads will be entertaining as we act shocked at how much the PS4 outsold the X1, but deep down, everyone knows it's already over.

Sony won this generation on May 21 2013 and cemented their victory on November 15 2013. Anyone who pretends otherwise is lying themselves.
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Oh my god...

Dude, it's not complicated. PS4 is selling because it has the games people want to play. It was also $100 cheaper than the competition. People buying ps4's leads to more people buying ps4's because of friends effect. That's all there is to it. It's not because of DRM. It's not because Mark Cerny got on stage.

You guys get so caught up in exclusives because of your childish console wars. The reality is that the typical consumer doesn't care if a game is third party or first party or exclusive or multiplatform. Those are terms that literally don't enter their consciousness. They buy systems for the games they want to play. Those games are COD, BF, GTA, AC, etc, etc. You know, the stuff that actually SELLS. It's not Knack. It's not Ryse. It's not Killzone. It's not Dead Rising or Killer Instict. And it's not going to be Sunset Overdrive or the Order. Most people don't even know what these things are so they're not buying systems for them.

You can respond if you want but I have no interest in reading your reply because I already know it will be complete irrational nonsense. Have a nice day.
 
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JaggedSac

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Miles Quaritch said:
As ridiculous as this might appear at first glance, there is a small element of truth and it shouldn't be dismissed because of the rest of the post.

What is really selling the PS4 over the X1? It's certainly not the exclusive software. It can't be games like Destiny, which are also available on the competing platform.

So it stands to reason that people are buying into the idea of the PS4 more than anything else. It's the platform of choice for this generation, everything about the platform has fed into this idea, from the day it was revealed to the day it launched, there's been a strong belief that the PS4 is the only console to get.

it's the true games console, the only one that will provide the best and most engaging gaming experiences. The idea took root and it's one that MS will be fighting (a losing battle) for the entire generation.

People can pretend MS has a chance so future NPD threads will be entertaining as we act shocked at how much the PS4 outsold the X1, but deep down, everyone knows it's already over.

Sony won this generation on May 21 2013 and cemented their victory on November 15 2013. Anyone who pretends otherwise is lying themselves.
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The main question, is why would you buy a Bone over a PS4? It is a more powerful box for the same price. Only folks who like MS' 1st party IP have a reason.
 
Mengy

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j-wood said:
Just catching up and the Microsoft PR is just sad, but I laughed.

"We have great holiday bundles coming."
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To be fair, if they do a MCC bundle and put it at an incredible price point then it will be all but guaranteed to sell a hell of a lot of units. It might even get them one month of console sales greater than the PS4, but personally I feel the best they could hope for would be to break even with PS4 for a month or two. The momentum is just too strong at this point for Sony, and I'm not even sure the Master Chief's catalog of games we have already played can change that.

But the MCC is really the only outlier that we know of for this holiday season. Other than that we can pretty much expect things to keep going as they are, meaning Sony will stay on top for the foreseeable future.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing either, personally with the immense missteps that MS has made with the Xbone I really REALLY want Sony to dominate. They deserve it and MS deserves second place. Hopefully MS learns from this gen and decides to think more of their customers when designing the Xbox 2, or whatever the hell they will call the next one.
 
Crimson_Fate

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freefornow said:
I'm expecting a "trade your 360" type deal to come into play prior to MCC release.

Something like $249-299 for XBO MCC bundle.
Might move a few consoles. Maybe.
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That's a hard sale.

Trade in my 360 for an xb1 with the same halo games I already own for $300. Ahh.. no

I've never purchased a remastered game that I already owned so the MCC holds no allure at all for me to move back or pick up an xb1.
 
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CrazedProfessional

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wmlk said:
You're right. Enoki took over.

Still, my point stands that it's an exception to the rule.
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A more active NOA is very possible but for some reason they keep hitting this invisible wall causing such movements as Operation RAINFALL. They can do it, I believe in them but something internally is stopping them from being liberal with release dates and such.
 
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Imouto

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Herb Alpert said:
But the worst is that it isn't even about deceiving by marketing IMO. Marketing here is about gaining mindshare. Destiny is a thing because because there is huge ads everywhere, TV spots all the time. It is massive brainwashing and it even put the idea in a lot of heads that it was a PS4 exclusive.

Well, I guess that is how mass marketing works. Sorry for being off topic.
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No, that's not brainwashing. The bundles did the magic. Otherwise standalone Destiny wouldn't sell more on Xbox One.

You may hate the game and all, but there are people who enjoy the game. Is it fair to trash those people's taste just because they don't meet yours?
 
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Shahed

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I prefer the bolded letter method. Caps just feel like I'm being shouted at :(

Making it Members only so there was no need for quoting would be ideal though
 
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ShemhazaiX said:
Why not a regular junior? :[
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Sorry, first thing that comes to mind:

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also, a quick reminder on what started the craziness in this thread on the first page. One of the greatest posts ever here on GAF.... No really, this is grade A stuff...


Originally Posted by hydrophilic attack
This is a sad day for America.

I watched the TGS streams, I know what Playstation is all about. All of you Playstation lovers with your loli obsession and your anime avatars, if you love Japan so much, why don't you just move there? It saddens me that Americans would choose to associate with that rather than the sturdy, rugged, masculine, patriotic The One. Yet, throughout these sad times that we live in, I have still kept alive a lingering flame of hope that the great American values will endure, and Pacther’s predictions this week helped kindle that flame. But if these news are true, I may have to finally abandon that hope.

If these news are true, that is. Anyone else think it’s suspicious how NPD starts hiding console numbers, so that we are left at the mercy of the console manufacturers to provide us with what information they will, and suddenly Playstation starts doing better than Xbox? No one else finds it suspicious how the well-informed and knowledgeable video games analyst Pachter, who usually makes predictions with great accuracy, after consulting his vast retail contact network, predicts that The One will come out ahead, yet when we get “official” numbers, suddenly PS4 has sold more? It’s not like this is the first time that Sony is caught with juking the stats. Esteemed video games sales expert ioi recently revealed how Sony was lying at Gamescom with their 10 million consoles sold number. You may think Sony wouldn’t go that far, but they have lied to us before. They lied to us about the Driveclub PS Plus version and they lied to us about the power of their systems. One lie leads to another and once you have gotten into the habit of lying, it is very hard to stop.

But I guess this is to be expected. People who want to harm America always have a propensity to believe in made-up numbers. Look at how North Korean citizens swallow lies from their own leaders. Or closer to home, look at how liberals are gulping down the Obama administration’s lies. Look at how they are cooking the books on Obamacare and job reports. 250000 new jobs added in September? Hah, where I live, in real rural America, most people have given up looking. 250000 new jobs, my ass. Plus, under President Romney, we would have had at least 400000 new jobs. Or look at how they lie about inflation as an excuse to print money, debasing the dollar further. President Reagan (may he rest in peace) is turning in his grave. Inflation below target? Tell that to my local grocery store and gas station! These Washington types, always coming at you with their fancy numbers and their facts and their smug grins, thinking they know better than you. (And don't get me started on those IRS bullies. Federal income tax is theft and, even worse, unconstitutional, and I'm not paying to help finance a government I never voted for. So they can take their tax return forms and their court summons and shove them up somewhere. Don't bother coming back here!) And throughout all this, the mainstream media keeps cheering the administration on, helping them pull the wool over Americans’ eyes. This is very similar to the gaming media, incidentally, with their strong Sony bias. Kotaku is far too close to Sony. Always has been.

Maybe it’s time we started unskewing the NPD results. Even though they started shilling for Sony only relatively recently, I have always felt that their numbers are suspect. They don’t track sales from online stores, where more and more customers are taking their business these days. Also, it is well-known that they don’t take digital download sales into account. Who knows how many console sales they miss that way?

Still, I am always the optimist. I have hopes for the future. It looks like people are finally starting to see through the Democrats’ lies. If polls are to be believed, we will put a patriotic majority back in the Senate in November. If it can happen there, we can get the powers for good back into power in the video game business at the same time, with the arrival of Halo: The Master Chief Collection and, most importantly, the monthly OS updates. Until then, God bless you all, and don’t forget to vote in November!
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Aquamarine said:
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Yes. There is a massive portion of people who just lurk GAF, look for leaks, and then leave.

They don't contribute to the community, they spread the leaks all around the Internet and raise GAF's notoriety, and they raise the chances of us getting into trouble with NPD.

With the email tag system, leak origins + leak reposts will be obfuscated for that massive portion of people, making it safer to leak stuff.


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As far as I am concerned you and Creamsugar are the ones who make worth a darn, so what you say goes. If this is what you want, I am game.
 
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Paganmoon said:
I mean, they have to eventually win a month, just on pure chance. And when that happens, people will post that they saw it coming for ages.
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They did win last December (when it wasn't possible to get a PS4) I'd say November next year is the most likely upcoming month, if that's when Halo 5 releases. Although that's probably when UC4 is releasing so I'd say it would still be close.
 
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When people question why the One is getting trounced in sales, and cite that it should sell better because it's a decent system, why do they always ignore the fact that because it has less performance and cheaper components, its RRP should be quite a bit cheaper than the PS4?

Maybe if it were cheaper, as it should be, there would be more parity in sales.

I mean it's a no-brainer really. If there were two graphics cards and each was compatible with 95% of the software as the other, which would you choose:

Radeon with better GPU and 8GB GDDR5 memory: $199.99
Radeon with slower GPU and 8GB DDR3 memory $199.99

I think it's fair to assume the vast majority of the average consumer would be sensible and buy the faster model. MS can keep offering bundles but I would proffer that they offer value bundles AND slash $50-75 off the RRP of the base SKU to bring its value proposition in-line with the PS4's. Consumers aren't stupid and they ain't gonna forgo a big cut in performance so they can play Halo and Forza.
 
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Markitron said:
They did win last December (when it wasn't possible to get a PS4) I'd say November next year is the most likely upcoming month, if that's when Halo 5 releases. Although that's probably when UC4 is releasing so I'd say it would still be close.
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Sony will win then as well. The main reason being install base. Two of my best friends switched from 360 -> PS4, both Halo fans and both will be buying Uncharted 4 day one. There's quite a few people in that list which is growing every month.
 
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Mengy said:
To be fair, if they do a MCC bundle and put it at an incredible price point then it will be all but guaranteed to sell a hell of a lot of units. It might even get them one month of console sales greater than the PS4, but personally I feel the best they could hope for would be to break even with PS4 for a month or two. The momentum is just too strong at this point for Sony, and I'm not even sure the Master Chief's catalog of games we have already played can change that.

But the MCC is really the only outlier that we know of for this holiday season. Other than that we can pretty much expect things to keep going as they are, meaning Sony will stay on top for the foreseeable future.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing either, personally with the immense missteps that MS has made with the Xbone I really REALLY want Sony to dominate. They deserve it and MS deserves second place. Hopefully MS learns from this gen and decides to think more of their customers when designing the Xbox 2, or whatever the hell they will call the next one.
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XboxOne will be Microsoft's last console.
 
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