So you have the time to post the video and reply to my comment, but not to write up one or two lines summarizing the video?
Are you serious with this shit?
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NV Democrats file complaint against Sanders campaign to DNC
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So you have the time to post the video and reply to my comment, but not to write up one or two lines summarizing the video?
Are you serious with this shit?
Unlike Hilary
Yeah yeah I know whataboutism etc but of all self-serving narcissists I'd rather have one that serves my class interests
cpp_is_king
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And somehow people think Berniebros will just magically flock to Hillary after he is forced to exit the race. Smh.
The infighting among the republicans during the debates was entertaining and spawned many a good meme. The infighting amongst democrats is just shameful.
Sanders should have kept it professional so he could have gone for that VP spot. Sanders supporters are a real risk for aligning with Trump after all this infighting finishes doing its damage
The infighting among the republicans during the debates was entertaining and spawned many a good meme. The infighting amongst democrats is just shameful.
Sanders should have kept it professional so he could have gone for that VP spot. Sanders supporters are a real risk for aligning with Trump after all this infighting finishes doing its damage
I just don't see it happening. Hillary is already ahead of Trump and the tension between her and Sanders is going to decrease from now until November, not increase.
boiled goose
good with gravy
The NY Daily News article was a clear hit piece. See this NY Times article for a more fair view of the exchange
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/07/u...s-something-about-breaking-up-banks.html?_r=0
Hillary supporters online have been trumpeting this interview as a big blow to Sanders without understanding a thing about what was actually said themselves. They just run with the headlines...
Another article
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-daily-news_us_5704779ce4b0a506064d8df5
How was it a hit piece? The posted the entire transcript and even the video!
They really aren't. A handful of them will stay out of it, but they were probably going to vote for a fringe candidate in any case and just glommed onto Sanders because he was a fringe candidate with a primary.
He was also never ever in a million years going to be the VP no matter what he did. Hillary was always going to pick a moderate Dem that gives her a bit of credential in a swing state or with a voting bloc. Not a socialist who wants to break up wall street and raise taxes on the middle class.
Turnout in primaries is far lower than turnout in November and much like the noise of Hillary voters not voting for Obama in 08 the vast majority will turn out for Hillary against Donald Trump. Those that don't aren't progressives who care about a Democratic agenda anyway and were never going to vote for Hillary in the first place.
This is going to come down to PA/IA/NH/VA/CO/OH/FL/WI just like it always was going to.
The fringe supporters, probably not.
The majority are still going to fall in line despite what social media paints it as. The majority of the Democrat electorate is nowhere near as divided as it's made out to be online. There's not really a need to stress it, this election hasn't been anywhere near as contentious as what I recall 2008 being, hell this is boxing gloves for the vast majority of it.
I read the entire Trasnscript and I worked in Wall Street regulation for the better part of 14 years with the last 4 of them with large financial institutions and/or the regulator. As in I was the global head of regulatory relations for a big bad bank until about 4 months ago when I quit to make board games full time. I was the US head of Regulatory Relations for another big bad bank prior to that and I was a Senior Regulatory Examiner with FINRA prior to that and was in charge of the annual examinations of multiple large financial institutions. I've interfaced with the SEC/NYFRB/FINRA/CME/NFA/all of the stock/options exchanges/MSRB/ECB/Bundesbank and myriad smaller local regulators like State DAs offices and have prepped multiple CEOs to testify in front of Congressional comittees.
I understood the entire Trasnscript. It is my wheelhouse.
He comes off like a fucking idiot in that interview with no understanding of his pet cause. It was a Trumpesque "things will happen when I'm president because" sort of hand waving with no understanding at all of the regulatory environment in Wall St.
TheLostBigBoss
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Sanders was never going to have a spot for VP.
BernieBros aren't even democrats, they are Ron Paul people who latched onto an actual viable candidate and got a slight taste of possible victory and freaked out when reality hit them.
Hillary didn't really lose BernieBros vote, she never had them.
Dash_Riprock
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I really wish Sanders supporters could make one, just one argument/rebuttal that doesn't resort to "CONSPIRACY!" and "THE ESTABLISHMENT!"
Its a "hit piece", give me a break
Abstrusity
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None of this is acceptable, either. =.= Politics was a mistake, it's all trash.
If you're going to try to argue from the moral high ground, at least hold the moral high ground.
If you're going to try to argue from the moral high ground, at least hold the moral high ground.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel of shitposting like you're trying to find a secret compartment.
legacyzero
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I mean you dont have to LOL. It has video of the tomfoolery happening. Watch it or don't. If you dont care about video evidence,.
Yes im serious
plagiarize
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Cenk's whole point is that it's suspicious that way more Sanders delegates were blocked than Clinton's delegates.
That is the entirety of his point on this. He even floats the possibility that Clinton supporters might be more diligent at getting all their registrations in order, etc.
He says 'someone should look into these 58 delegates to see if they should have been blocked' and acknowledges that no one has.
So I'm supposed to presume the NV DNC committed fraud to ensure Clinton got 2 more delegates in the primary race. Because it 'seems' suspicious.
Melkezadek
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Not a Hilary supporter and I found that interview pretty damning and I voted for him in the primaries.
The article you retorted with is the very definition of mental gymnastics.
goos pls
big blows only matter if the one getting hit was still capable of fighting
The twist is that it's perfectchaos007 who has been cutting your hair the whole time!
Well it's not exactly helped when the candidate himself reportedly won't comment on the issue, and the extent of his campaign's statement on the matter is "yes, violence and harassment are bad, buuuut...."
Bernie could easily stamp this out by saying people who say this kind of shit and engage in the kind of behavior where a state party chair is bombarded with texts calling her a cunt who deserves to be hanged is unacceptable and abhorrent, full stop, the end. No "but they have a voice that needs to be heard," "but they raise some concerns about the rules" tiptoeing around it. The longer he doesn't, the worse light it casts across his campaign, his broader not insane base of supporters, and himself.
BlastProcessing
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To put a fine point on it: Thus far, Sanders has taken a more prominent stand against Planned Parenthood than he has against his supporters increasingly erratic behaviour. He is basically the one person on the planet that could calm things down and he is choosing to remain silent on the subject.
Not sure how that serves your class interests, but it doesn't do much for mine.
TheLostBigBoss
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https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/732588761423486976
Literally running away from reality that his campaign is out of control (and out of money)
Outtrigger888
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you gotta see Bernie supporters outside trump rallies, some of the most hateful violent people.
Dash_Riprock
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They'll be shaking hands and insulting Killary together once Bernie drops out.
Not the greatest of looks
brainchild
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Considering that the motion to adopt the temporary rules as permanent rules was left up to a voice vote, I don't see how you could assert with any degree of certainty that there was any kind of majority in favor of the change. All video evidence suggests otherwise.
Also, according to Robert's Rules of Order, some motions must be recognized, like a point of order if there is an appeal of the ruling of the chair (which there most definitely was). Of course, this was completely ignored, and the chair just did whatever the fuck she felt like.
The letter says that this happened for the majority of the time when Sanders delegates disagreed with procedure. That allegation is completely false.
Can we all come together and agree on how shitty this looks? You are a grown-ass man who is aspiring for the highest office in the country. Be professional.
BennyBlanco
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I really don't understand why he hasn't dropped out.
I suppose he should've just guffawed at the question and ignored it.
This is a guy who has expressed admiration for Fidel Castro and Daniel Noriega.
Does it really surprise anyone that he would turn to political violence when he can't win democratically?
jack_package_200
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Possible Hillary Indictment perhaps?
It also lets him feed his already oversized ego.
Exactly. The Democratic and Republican party have controlled and perverted the democratic process for so long, people just accept it as the way things should always be.
Why not make it more undemocratic by barring non-registered party members from having any impact at all on who the cartel's specific candidate will be.
You might as well make it even harder for a non-establishment candidate to run and win on ideas that conflict with the party, because we all know the only ideas that matter and can improve this country come from the corrupt, yes I said corrupt, and stodgy process we have now.
Or he could've just flatly condemned that behavior and moved on.
The Technomancer
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^Fucking textbook.
They will mellow out and pick a side where they will view the world through the non-dogmatic prism of their given party.
Dash_Riprock
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Naive angry idiots who have no fucking idea what free speech is?
The line between Sanders and Trump supporters just blurred even more.
Right out of the new-age harassment textbook. Abhorrent behavior
PhoncipleBone
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What the hell is Ralston Reports? Never heard of the site until today.
The Technomancer
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Nevada dude. Not going to say he's "unbiased" or anything but he's not a nobody
Souldriver
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Are there more sources for this? Because if true that is very telling.
I know that the losing team is expected to act out in weird ways before admitting defeat, but I never thought the Bernie campaign would go this far off the deep end. Their attitude and actions are hard to understand, and by now downright irresponsible.
Contrasting with how the Bernie campaign and its supporters are showing themselves lately, it makes me appreciate the somewhat calculated, never off-message, more policy and politics driven approach of Hillary.
Box of Kittens
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It's been pretty clear for a while that there's plenty of overlap between gamergate and BernieOrBust (which I know is just a small portion of Bernie's support).
"Yes, yes, this is bad.. but both sides are at fault here. Had you allowed us to scream our way into thwarting the Will of the People, this wouldn't've had to happen."
plagiarize
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Let me help you out here, because we can easily argue majority, since you only watched 6 hours of more than 12 hours of events.
However, the letter said every time. Which yeah, you can dispute if you want to pull out the dictionary. I will happily concede that it didn't happen every time.
But that doesn't feel like conceding much at all.
dynamitejim
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This is what happens when a small group of loud, angry people shouts into an echo chamber and mistakes the dissonance for some kind of revolutionary majority.
It's telling that they're so upset about losing the voice vote - they know the only way they can win is by screaming more loudly and pretending theirs is the voice of the people.
It's telling that they're so upset about losing the voice vote - they know the only way they can win is by screaming more loudly and pretending theirs is the voice of the people.
Palette Swap
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Yes, but you see, the real issue here is voter disenfranchisement and I have a video that proves it. Don't ask me to comment on it though.
The fact Bernie has been ambiguously quiet about it adds fuel to the fire. He's not just this outsider candidate overwhelmed by some uranium-powered enthusiasts who leave radioactive trails, he's very much quietly supporting them in his ambivalence and as such is part of the problem.
I do feel sorry for his more level headed supporters, but at this point I assume they'll be relieved when this shitshow ends.
Easy to say when the private two-party system basically controls every election in this country. They have managed to consolidate the entire power structure of the country into an oligopolistic set-up.
If you are in the minority, your only choices are to change the system from within or get steamrolled in November by the current electoral cabal.
The people that control reform are part of this cabal. The people who appoint justices to overturn this private cabal were appointed by politicians nurtured and empowered by this current system.
Telling someone to run as any other party, or if you wish to prevent insurgent candidates is basically a form of saying, "if you want to change the system go screw yourself."
I think there should be less consolidated power. I don't even feel comfortable with the democrats being taken over completely by Sanders rhetoric and ideology. It will just be Sanders taking over the same powerful systems that exist now.
There needs to be diversification of political power.
Bam Bam Baklava
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They're the exact opposite of the silent majority. Rally sizes and enthusiasm is now considered worth more than actual votes.
Why are people surprised? This isn't the first time the Sanders supporters have stooped to online/phone harassment on a wide scale. It's a shitty method of 'getting your voice heard.'
http://www.npr.org/2016/04/09/47339...erdelegate-hit-list-superdelegates-not-amused
This in response to
http://www.npr.org/2016/04/09/47339...erdelegate-hit-list-superdelegates-not-amused
This in response to
Yeah, now more than ever I'm more than happy with Hillary and glad we dodged the Bernie bullet.
lol at one of the Yelp reviews
On a related note, a Trump delegate in my state owns a construction business and sits on the township planning commission, but no one seems to give a fuck about that.
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