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[Agent_4Seven]

How will it ruin the original artistic look if it's the devs themselves that will use it and taylor it to their liking??

It looks like fake AI crap! Have you seen AI images online? They look exactly like what they showed here and more to the point in case with RER, faces there look insanely good without any AI crap and instead of using full RT feature set to fix RT issues like CPR did in CP2077, they want you to use extremely expensive PT and made RT look worse on purpose! And now they'll turn the game into fake AI crap.

Like, AI can be great for very old games (IF PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND PASSIONATE ABOUT IT!) like the first two Onimusha to turn them into modern looking games and fix lazy AF Capcom efforts (if you can even call them that) to make the game look great almost 30 years later, but why the fuck do we need fake AI crap in modern games if modern engines doesn't need all this shit at all?

This god-like mod is prime example of how AI must be used:

4K Texture Pack AI-Enhanced

4K Texture Pack AI-Enhanced

www.nexusmods.com

 

[Basketball]

I don't know how people can say the grace or the starfield DLSS5 updates aren't better.

Judging from the posts on Twitter, I think it's political, Anti anything AI derangement syndrome.

How can you look at the Starfield ones especially and say it looks worse ?

 

[mhirano]

 

[Revolutionary]

This thread is going to be hilarious to come back to in a few years time

 

[SlimySnake]

lol youtubers are the worst.

 

[AGRacing]

Let's harness this technology to make dead ass ugly characters look smokin' hot. There should be a global override breast size toggle in the nvida app too.

 

[rodrigolfp]

It looks like fake AI crap! Have you seen AI images online? They look exactly like what they showed here and more to the point in case with RER, faces there look insanely good without any AI crap and instead of using full RT feature set to fix RT issues like CPR did in CP2077, the want you to use extremely expensive PT and make RT look worse on purpose! And now they'll turn the game into fake AI crap.

Like, AI can be great for very old games (IF PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND PASSIONATE ABOUT IT!) like the firts two Onimusha to turn them into modern looking games and fix lazy AF Capcom efforts (if you can even call them that) to make the game look great almost 30 years later, but why the fuck do we need fake AI crap in modern games if modern engines doesn't need all this shit at all?

This god-like mod is prime example of how AI must be used:

4K Texture Pack AI-Enhanced

4K Texture Pack AI-Enhanced

www.nexusmods.com

And without looks like fake doll/mannequin crap. Give me the fake RER photo realistic Grace for yesterday.

 

[GudOlRub]

Let's harness this technology to make dead ass ugly characters look smokin' hot. There should be a global override breast size toggle in the nvida app too.

Based, I want my pokemon to have huge ass tiddies.

 

[Celcius]

I hope to be a gamer all my life but this has me wondering if I'll ever not be into the current games and just become a retro gamer and just live in "the good old days".

 

[danklord]

I give gaming as we know it one more generation

 

[tTHANOSs]

I'm watching the DF video and it's like all this light comes out of nowhere when DLSS 5 gets turned on

I agree the lighting is way over done.

 

[SlimySnake]

 

[SlimySnake]

I hope to be a gamer all my life but this has me wondering if I'll ever not be into the current games and just become a retro gamer and just live in "the good old days".

honestly, i want to go back and apply these graphics to the good old days games. Stuff like Motorstorm to make it look like that CG trailer we never got. Same goes for the KZ2 trailer.

I'd also like to be able to add detail to games like MGS1, MGS2, GTA3, God of War 1 and 2. Without waiting for devs to come in and make remakes from scratch.

 

[bender]

honestly, i want to go back and apply these graphics to the good old days games. Stuff like Motorstorm to make it look like that CG trailer we never got. Same goes for the KZ2 trailer.

I'd also like to be able to add detail to games like MGS1, MGS2, GTA3, God of War 1 and 2. Without waiting for devs to come in and make remakes from scratch.

 

[cripterion]

Should be the other way around.

This thread is going to be hilarious to come back to in a few years time

Some of the posts here are frankly silly, same as with those "youtubers who think they know it all" takes.

 

[TintoConCasera]

I hope to be a gamer all my life but this has me wondering if I'll ever not be into the current games and just become a retro gamer and just live in "the good old days".

Same, and I believe the chase for realistic visuals has been like a cancer for the hobby.

Costs in time and money skyrocket, a ton of devs closed shop because they weren't able to adapt during the HD era and all for what? For games to look all the same? Lmao

 

[danklord]

Same, and I believe the chase for realistic visuals has been like a cancer for the hobby.

Costs in time and money skyrocket, a ton of devs closed shop because they weren't able to adapt during the HD era and all for what? For games to look all the same? Lmao

Well that's the solve here, you can create simpler assets and keep production costs down while still delivering world class visuals.

 

[dotnotbot]

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[REMAINSILLY]

Brother, what the fuck is this shit?

 

[schaft0620]

I'd like to hear from Capcom on this.

 

[GudOlRub]

Well that's the solve here, you can create simpler assets and keep production costs down while still delivering world class visuals.

Every game shown in these examples has highly detailed assets, yes even Starfield, do we know that this will work with much simpler assets?

 

[Gp1]

Every game shown in these examples has highly detailed assets, yes even Starfield, do we know that this will work with much simpler assets?

That's exactly where AI fumbles.
DLSS/FSR look almost perfect at 4k. Try that at 1080p...

 

[danklord]

Every game shown in these examples has highly detailed assets, yes even Starfield, do we know that this will work with much simpler assets?

Starfield's character models were ass when it came out, are ass now, and will only look more dated as time goes on. The tech demo today is the mind-blowing Hail Mary Gamebryo needed.

 

[Killer8]

You should've listened.

 

[epicurius-seven]

Can't wait for the new edition of GTA Trilogy.

 

[rabbity-thing]

Man... I was really liking the direction that Capcom took with Grace's character design. It's so subtle and wonderful. The DLSS version just looks like the fake images being used to let me know about hot singles in my area.

This new tech is barf. It is literally and figuratively barf.

 

[SomeGit]

Every game shown in these examples has highly detailed assets, yes even Starfield, do we know that this will work with much simpler assets?

Hogwarts is the most stylized of the bunch and looks horrendous. I can't even imagine this trying to "improve" a game like MGS2.

 

[GermanZepp]

C'mon folks let's be real. When this technology matures and your favorite console, studio and game starts using it in some proprietary way a lot of the yelling AI SLoP is going to stop.

If not. Is just a toggle button. Another option Another graphical choice. This forum right here has dudes wetting their panties over photo realistic graphics. Granted, faces looking funky, weird, bad and uncanny. But what about racing sims for example? Or a motorstorm game that looks like the ps3 trailer. There is so much potential.

If you don't dig it turn it off.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

 

[CrustyBritches]

I don't know how people can say the grace or the starfield DLSS5 updates aren't better.

It's simple. That's not Grace, and even for what they are doing, they fail.

 

[GudOlRub]

C'mon folks let's be real. When this technology matures and your favorite console, studio and game starts using it in some proprietary way a lot of the yelling AI SLoP is going to stop.

If not. Is just a toggle button. Another option Another graphical choice. This forum right here has dudes wetting their panties over photo realistic graphics. Granted, faces looking funky, weird, bad and uncanny. But what about racing sims for example? Or a motorstorm game that looks like the ps3 trailer. There is so much potential.

If you don't dig it turn it off.

Literally what I want to see, had nvidia shown this tech turning Need For Speed Underground 2's graphics into Need for Speed 2015's graphics instead of trying to turn Starfield into Sora AI The Videogame and I'd be simping for it like there's no tomorrow.

 

[SolarFry]

So is this DLSS or not? Because if this murders your fps, it's not. I'm thinking they're starting their snake oil ad campaign with this, prepare to have to buy their 6090 card for $10000. Value. The more you buy the more you save.

 

[Ribi]

Why is everyone mad at this? If anything they should be mad at Capcom and Bethesda for how shit and clay like their characters are.

 

[GermanZepp]

It's simple. That's not Grace, and even for what they are doing, they fail.

Do you looked at the X post above your response? What you think about that?

 

[thatJohann]

I think it looks fine. It's up to developers isn't it?

 

[Trogdor1123]

The features, and the required hardware, keep going, but prices keep climbing, and availability keeps dropping.

What could go wrong?

 

[TGO]

Call it what you want, but

Honestly I'm not sure how I feel about this, in way it is more closer to the actual model, but I saw the other footage with close ups of Grace and while it was better, it was more like the DLSS off model with enhancements which means there's no consistency.
I need to see more of this.
Also the DLSS off is path tracing mode right?
The characters look matte and flat anyway in with PT on.
More interesting is DF is saying it ain't replacing models or textures, it's just lighting.
I mean it's possible but yet again I need to see more.

 

[March Climber]

Damn does it fix these faces in Starfield

It will just add a 'realistic filter' look and give you nightmare fuel instead.

 

[VGA-Games]

The Nintendo Switch 3 will be a Beast

 

[nikos]

Looks great in lots of instances and not so great in others. I'm sure it will improve over time. It's still several months out.

They've already stated that developers have full artistic control over its implementation, so the "AI look" shouldn't be prevalent when properly implemented.

Of course you have a ton of people yelling "slop" because they're still running GTX 1060s.

 

[March Climber]

Hogwarts is the most stylized of the bunch and looks horrendous. I can't even imagine this trying to "improve" a game like MGS2.

Here's a sneak peek for MGS 3

 

[GermanZepp]

Call it what you want, but

Honestly I'm not sure how I feel about this, in way it is more closer to the actual model, but I saw the other footage with close ups of Grace and while it was better, it was more like the DLSS off model with enhancements which means there's no consistency.
I need to see more of this.
Also the DLSS off is path tracing mode right?
The characters look matte and flat anyway in with PT on.
More interesting is DF is saying it ain't replacing models or textures, it's just lighting.
I mean it's possible but yet again I need to see more.

She is so beautiful.

The dlss on RE9 looks good. I want to see the zombies and the monsters too.

 

[TGO]

She is so beautiful.

The dlss on RE9 looks good. I want to see the zombies and the monsters too.

The consistency is off though, I prefer the way she looks in the comparison below

NVIDIA DLSS 5: Resident Evil™ Requiem GeForce RTX Comparison: NVIDIA DLSS 5 On vs. NVIDIA DLSS 5 #002

NVIDIA DLSS 5: Resident Evil™ Requiem GeForce RTX Comparison: NVIDIA DLSS 5 On vs. NVIDIA DLSS 5 #002

www.nvidia.com

That's good and while the other is even more realistic, it's not consistent and that's a problem.

 

[SlimySnake]

These youtube comments under the Re9 DLSS 5 video are killing me.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

The only interesting outcome of this drama is seeing all these retards behave the same way as the ones they usually get mad at... Oh boy, oh boy, what a bunch of clowns.

Between Raytracing/Path Tracing and all these AI techniques, Real Time Graphics(and hardware) have a new paradigm to chase.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I watched Asmon's video where he compared the before and after pics.

I liked the DLSS On pics better than he did, but the one thing these after pics seemed to do:

Good - Much more detail

Bad - Everyone's face is plastic or sweating. Overall, it might be too saturated and bloomy. I just took a skim of various family pics on Facebook and nobody's photos are ever like that unless they are doing one of those pro photo kinds of pics on your phone using settings that makes everything stand out

The best pics were probably Leon in the dark and the Starfield woman. That old lady in Hogwarts looks awful.

 

[TheAmazingSpiderMan]

lol I see a lot of people saying it's changed facial structure completely.. I must be blind or something. Neverhtless, if devs do have an input on the style then it should be great going forward.

I think if we had next gen kick in and consoles showed this off, no1 would be complaining. We're just used to hearing ai slop so often these days.

 

[//DEVIL//]

nope it won't.

it already uses a shit load of memory, if you wanted to make it consistent you'd literally have to keep previous generation in memory and even save it into storage.

this will literally look different every time you start the game, or just open the menu and close it again.

bullshit ? stop spreading fuds? Nvidia them selves said the artist can even control and adjust the enhanced image to their liking. this is not a random chatgpt garbage.

I am glad this tech exists. so it pissess off people like you even more. go buy AMD product...

 

[Lucie Goosey]

I'm stoked for this, because it's totally optional.

I hope it continues to improve to the point Devs actually want to work with it regularly.

Very cool.

 

[Vick]

Why is everyone mad at this? If anything they should be mad at Capcom and Bethesda for how shit and clay like their characters are.

And they manually achieved this on a Console at 60fps.
I'd obviously rather see their work progress with hardware in the future instead of seeing it replaced entirely by the same exact aesthetic we see all day long on socials, YouTube and porn websites, that we now all instantly associate with cheap trash made by nobodies in their mom's basement.