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Chiphell forum user panzerlied claims that RTX 5080 Super and RTX 5070 Super are in the works. While finer details are few for the moment, they state that the cards will respectively boast 24GB and 18GB of GDDR7 VRAM. Curiously, though, panzerlied notes "but it doesn't feel that fast."


As a reminder, RTX 5080 boasts a 16GB buffer while RTX 5070 rocks 12GB of VRAM. The proposed increases would net the cards a respective boost of 50% in terms of capacity. In order to achieve this, Nvidia will need to swap out 2GB memory modules with more spacious, and expensive, 3GB alternatives.



RTX 5080 24GB, Source: MSI​

It is also worth mentioning that the RTX 5080 non-SUPER with 24GB memory was accidentally confirmed by board partners. The belief is that NVIDIA originally planned to use a 24GB configuration for this SKU. However, due to the cost and limited availability of 3GB modules, NVIDIA chose a 16GB configuration instead.

Article:

Nvidia GeForce RTX 5080 Super & RTX 5070 Super may be in the works

Source: https://www.club386.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-super-amp-rtx-5070-super-may-be-in-the-works/

 

[Celcius]

As a 3090 owner I've refused to drop below 24gb vram when upgrading. I would definitely consider the 5080 Super. However, I doubt we see this card before 2026.

 

[bbeach123]

Aren't the 5080 and 5070 already using full die ?

So what they gonna upgrade ? Clock speed ?

 

[Bojji]

It was known. 3GB GDDR7 is already used in some laptop chip?

Isnt the 5080 and 5070 already using full die ?

So what they gonna upgrade ? Clock speed ?

Memory and clocks. 5080 can have much higher clocks than current default.

 

[DenchDeckard]

RTX 5070 is performing pretty poorly on the sales front and the 9070XT is causing some headaches for NVIDIA so I wouldnt be surprised by this in the slightest. Would be hilarious if they launch it this year.

 

[Bojji]

RTX 5070 is performing pretty poorly on the sales front and the 9070XT is causing some headaches for NVIDIA so I wouldnt be surprised by this in the slightest. Would be hilarious if they launch it this year.

Aren't every GPU on the market = sold GPU?

They may be selling less but only because they have less units available. 9070 series launch was much bigger in terms of stock vs. most of nvidia 5xxx launch.

 

[Zathalus]

The 5070 Super can increase core count by 4% and memory speed by 7% without needing to go to a larger die, but for any increases on the 5080 they will need to go to a heavily cut down GB202 chip.

Anyways if they increase the performance of the 5080 in line with most Super cards it should be 4090 level and 24GB for $999 (assuming the same price), which is not bad. Pre tax/tariff/scalp price of course.

Naturally they should have launched like that from the start.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Aren't every GPU on the market = sold GPU?

They may be selling less but only because they have less units available. 9070 series launch was much bigger in terms of stock vs. most of nvidia 5xxx launch.

RTX 5070 sell through to end users is causing concern for NVIDIA and they are definitely feeling the performance of that card.

9070XT has garnered a lot of positive word of mouth and is performing well vs any other previous AMD card in recent years.

I wouldn't be surprised if NVIDIA wanted to get a card out with more VRAM ASAP as the 12GB on the 5070 is hurting them a bit.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Aren't the 5080 and 5070 already using full die ?

So what they gonna upgrade ? Clock speed ?

5080 super could be using a binned GB202 (5090)

 

[MarV0]

Panzerlied is the cousin of Jensen's dog walker so it is true.

 

[//DEVIL//]

5080s in theory is about the performance of 4090 but with the 5000 series exclusive stuff.

If they release that card for 1200/1300 ( which is what I expect of the card ), then it's card to get. Just like how the 4090 was and still is the card to get.


But the 5080s with display port 2.0 and MFG, DDR7 should be future proof for a while

 

[StereoVsn]

Chiphell forum user panzerlied claims that RTX 5080 Super and RTX 5070 Super are in the works. While finer details are few for the moment, they state that the cards will respectively boast 24GB and 18GB of GDDR7 VRAM. Curiously, though, panzerlied notes "but it doesn't feel that fast."


As a reminder, RTX 5080 boasts a 16GB buffer while RTX 5070 rocks 12GB of VRAM. The proposed increases would net the cards a respective boost of 50% in terms of capacity. In order to achieve this, Nvidia will need to swap out 2GB memory modules with more spacious, and expensive, 3GB alternatives.



RTX 5080 24GB, Source: MSI​

It is also worth mentioning that the RTX 5080 non-SUPER with 24GB memory was accidentally confirmed by board partners. The belief is that NVIDIA originally planned to use a 24GB configuration for this SKU. However, due to the cost and limited availability of 3GB modules, NVIDIA chose a 16GB configuration instead.

Article:

Nvidia GeForce RTX 5080 Super & RTX 5070 Super may be in the works

Source: https://www.club386.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-super-amp-rtx-5070-super-may-be-in-the-works/

It should be mostly VRAM bump for 5080 (maybe a small clock boost) since it's using the full 203 chip, and it's unlikely Nvidia will create a cut down 5090 in the current market.

 

[The Cockatrice]

fuck nvidia and people defending them. These should've been from the start. Worst fucking GPU launch ever, maybe even worse than the whole 970 memory debacle.

 

[StereoVsn]

5080 super could be using a binned GB202 (5090)

I don't see that happening unless AMD has a 9080 XT on the way. 5080 with 24GB VRAM and mild clock uptick would have no competition as it is.

A cut down 202 would cost more to manufacture. Well, that is unless they have a production glut due to their chips being prohibited from being sold to Chinese market (amongst others).

 

[LordCBH]

Tight. Can't wait to never be able to afford them and for shitbag scalpers to buy up all the inventory.

 

[PeteBull]

I can tell u one thing, after initial nvidia fanatics buyout, 50xx series of gpus are on the shelves at their crazy overpriced prices and no1 wanna bite, at least no1 who isnt forced into it and can wait.
Retailers here in poland started off with prices around msrp+50%, now those prices are more sane, roughly 20-30% over msrp, problem is, 50xx series has so many problems that its still not worth it.
For comparision 5080 at launch was starting around 7k pln (despite 4849pl msrp on official nvidia site), now its 5200pln so 1380usd- still 95usd above our polish msrp but vs launch streetprice of 1850 usd its decent step down
Cheapest 5090 models slowly lowered retail price too, currently its around 13000pln so 3450usd, at launch it was 4k+ for worst models and up to 6k usd for top of the top watercooling ones

TLDR- If some1 can its strongly advised to wait it out for super/ti variants of those cards, and again- dont buy them at well above msrp, wait those 2-3-4months till those greedy fucks at retail stores at least put cards close to msrp(say 50usd range).

 

[Topher]

Great. More cards that will be announced at reasonable prices only to have such a limited number made so the prices get jacked up to absurd levels. Nah.....I'm good.

 

[YCoCg]

Oh, so as most of us predicted, the real 5070 and 5080.

 

[chromatic9]

Great news, someone, somewhere on this planet will acquire them, like a golden ticket in a wonka bar while we see out of stock and baulk at the price and power consumption anyway and wonder what the hell is happening to pc gaming.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Sure, let's wait and see how Nvidia decide to fuck us all royally with the price first. I'll grab a 5080 super if the price is right.

 

[Connificent]

 

[OverHeat]

lol at 5080 buyers

 

[SolidQ]

Sell in 2025 with low Vram, release super series in 2026 with higher vram. Profit!

 

[diffusionx]

These cards are not coming out in 2025, they will sell the shitty base GPUs at the exorbitant prices because PCfats eat it up.

Then they come out with these to try to rope in the stragglers and do a stealth price cut if they feel it is necessary.

 

[omegasc]

sure, keep them (not) coming!

 

[Buggy Loop]

Great. More cards that will be announced at reasonable prices only to have such a limited number made so the prices get jacked up to absurd levels. Nah.....I'm good.

Don't know what's the situation in USA but for over a month now in Canada you can pretty much walk into a Canada computer store and leave with a 5070 Ti or 5080 near MSRP easily. 5090 allegedly got a big batch in but I am not looking for that anyway.

 

[Fess]

16GB was always a bad idea. I could barely reach 10fps in Indiana Jones on a 4080 Super because it peaked above 16GB when maxing everything.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Don't know what's the situation in USA but for over a month now in Canada you can pretty much walk into a Canada computer store and leave with a 5070 Ti or 5080 near MSRP easily. 5090 allegedly got a big batch in but I am not looking for that anyway.

Supply is decent for the 5070 but it's not anywhere near MSRP. Everything else (including the 9070/XT) supply is not much but still able to snag something.

 

[Buggy Loop]

16GB was always a bad idea. I could barely reach 10fps in Indiana Jones on a 4080 Super because it peaked above 16GB when maxing everything.

Naw, that's ID tech's streaming setting that has been puzzling most of peoples since Doom games too. You could go from highest setting to medium and never notice the difference. DF covered it quite nicely in their Indiana Jones tech review.

 

[Gubaldo]

5080 SUPER 24 GB - $1499
because of VRAM tax

 

[Fess]

Naw, that's ID tech's streaming setting that has been puzzling most of peoples since Doom games too. You could go from highest setting to medium and never notice the difference. DF covered it quite nicely in their Indiana Jones tech review.

I saw that but imo it doesn't matter what was the reason, 16GB still wasn't enough without having to lower settings, and most won't bother fiddling with the details but will just go without path tracing as a quick fix.
Won't be the only game needing more VRAM, more will come. A bump to 24GB is nice.

 

[damidu]

lol this'll expose those 12gb 5070s as the real scam job, they are.

 

[demigod]

Aren't every GPU on the market = sold GPU?

They may be selling less but only because they have less units available. 9070 series launch was much bigger in terms of stock vs. most of nvidia 5xxx launch.

Are you dumb or just like to make shit up all the time? There's an abundant amount of 5070s.

 

[Magic Carpet]

I stopped looking for a GPU, I no longer know what prices are reasonable. Best to just skip the 5000 series completely.

 

[Bojji]

Are you dumb or just like to make shit up all the time? There's an abundant amount of 5070s.

I don't check GPU market every day. When 5070 launched and few days after there were no GPUs available.

Is it available right now? Great. At MSRP? People still not buying it? That's even better because it sends message to Nvidia.

You could notice "?" in the post you quoted without trying to insult me.

 

[Kataploom]

Nvidia:

 

[JohnnyFootball]

RTX 5070 is performing pretty poorly on the sales front and the 9070XT is causing some headaches for NVIDIA so I wouldnt be surprised by this in the slightest. Would be hilarious if they launch it this year.

Yeah, my local Microcenter has had regular stock of overpriced 5070s. And even a few MSRP models.

 

[Autistic_Pancake]

> ti, super, ti super, blah-blah-blah
I don't want to buy any of those because it doesn't even feel like I'd get a real product.
As if they're offering a range where you pick "this is how poor / wealthy I am", basically.
And as a reward you get a participation prize, a GPU that will soon be replaced by another cycle of
> ti, super, ti super, blah-blah-blah
spinning that unholy wheel of greed.

 

[Topher]

Don't know what's the situation in USA but for over a month now in Canada you can pretty much walk into a Canada computer store and leave with a 5070 Ti or 5080 near MSRP easily. 5090 allegedly got a big batch in but I am not looking for that anyway.

Stock isn't great in the US. 5070 is around $750. 5070 Ti is around $950. 5080 is $1400 and up.

 

[Hoddi]

lol at 5080 buyers

Seriously. If nvidia fucks me over 13-14 more times then I'm switching to AMD.

 

[moogman]

It was known. 3GB GDDR7 is already used in some laptop chip?



Memory and clocks. 5080 can have much higher clocks than current default.

Which is weird in itself. It's been a while since core clocks have been so conservative on a card. Probably Nvidia realising they were full die so had to deliberately leave space for a Super.

 

[ozz ex machina]

Absolutely disgusting from nvidia that the 5080 wasn't 24gb of vram anyway. Fucking sick of them.

 

[StereoVsn]

Stock isn't great in the US. 5070 is around $750. 5070 Ti is around $950. 5080 is $1400 and up.

Well, stock is kind of there (even at Amazon with prime it shows up) but prices are out of whack.

And with tariffs they probably won't get better.

 

[Topher]

Well, stock is kind of there (even at Amazon with prime it shows up) but prices are out of whack.

And with tariffs they probably won't get better.

I've mainly been watching Best Buy and microcenter since Amazon has a lot of third party vendors which are little better than ebay scalpers. You are right though. Tariffs are going to make it worse.

 

[StereoVsn]

I've mainly been watching Best Buy and microcenter since Amazon has a lot of third party vendors which are little better than ebay scalpers. You are right though. Tariffs are going to make it worse.

Amazon now makes certain GPUs visible with a Prime account only. Prices aren't great though.

And yeah, couple MCs in DC area have had a decent amount of restock. Cards are still way above MSRP, with the exception of 5070. That one pops up near MSRP sometimes. Same with vanilla AMD 9070 non-XT.

Edit: Forgot to add that BestBuy generally has jack and shit. They can't manage to get anything in stock and if they do, they don't really have any anti-boy protection.

 

[Topher]

Amazon now makes certain GPUs visible with a Prime account only. Prices aren't great though.

And yeah, couple MCs in DC area have had a decent amount of restock. Cards are still way above MSRP, with the exception of 5070. That one pops up near MSRP sometimes. Same with vanilla AMD 9070 non-XT.

Edit: Forgot to add that BestBuy generally has jack and shit. They can't manage to get anything in stock and if they do, they don't really have any anti-boy protection.

Nvidia should really just stop making FE cards if this is going to be the norm from now on. This whole shitshow is one big bait and switch on price.

 

[StereoVsn]

Nvidia should really just stop making FE cards if this is going to be the norm from now on. This whole shitshow is one big bait and switch on price.

It lets them claim "5080 is $999" MSRP even though in reality in US you can't find it below $1400 or so.

Of course they have 0 incentive to change that. Plus they are too busy peddling AI cards so they don't care.

 

[rm082e]

I was looking at cards on New Egg over the weekend. My 10GB 3080 is just not getting it done to the degree I'd like anymore. After staring at the available options for over an hour, I just put a 9070XT in my cart and pulled the trigger. I'm not thrilled about the performance uplift, but I can't justify any of the Nvidia cards at this point.

This will be my first AMD card in over 20 years, so hoping for a good experience.

 

[kiphalfton]

Great. More cards that will be announced at reasonable prices only to have such a limited number made so the prices get jacked up to absurd levels. Nah.....I'm good.

Doesn't help when 95% allocation of stock goes to AIB partners, then AIB partners tack on 30%+ premium over "MSRP", then scalpers post on eBay for 50% premium over AIB partners.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Nvidia should really just stop making FE cards if this is going to be the norm from now on. This whole shitshow is one big bait and switch on price.

The FE cards are the only ones on the market that will fit into my current case. Everyone else has these stupid big chonky looooong cards.