omg you're just a poor pirate gaslighting people here.
omg you're just a poor pirate gaslighting people here.
The 1000 series and the and the 2080ti are the greatest lightning in a bottle products ever released for PC imo. PC parts shouldn't age like wine!Even a low-mid range GPU will last you upward of a decade if you want these days so overall the situation is fine. A GTX 1060 can still play many AAA games at lower settings and 30 fps.
Speaking of goalposts moving…while having to mess around with all the inconveniences and having a shitty experience sometimes with worse performance than a base console. Have at it and enjoy the benefits of that, I guess.
Concerned about prices...omg you're just a poor pirate gaslighting people here.
Why would they have a €5000 PC and pirate games? Sounds like a pain in the dick. Its like buying a supercar and putting the cheapest tires you can buy on it.
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Imho either get 9070, it has 16gigs of vram at least, which will be more and more useful each year, or fork up even more for 5070ti that is 16gigs too, if u have to go with ngreedia this round. Ofc in the end its about value so price/perf, nvidia has advantage coz of better rt and ai upscaling(fk framegen) so u gotta decide urself what u prioritise here, as a 3080ti owner(12gigs vram), defo dont buy 5070, rather even 4070ti super that has 16gigs if u find it at decent price(maybe used if u dont mind).
TLDR Absolutely dont go for 12gigs of vram at this budget if u want ur card to last longer than till 60xx series of card/next console gen.
Oooo you're not concerned about prices at all when you're a pirate, are you? lmaoConcerned about prices...
Call others poor...
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Concerned about prices...
Call others poor...
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What inconveniences exactly? The only recent issues I had with my PC was a driver bug that I resolved with a hotfix update. That took 5 minutes out of my day, shock and horror. I did have to follow a guide on how to get Mechwarrior 4 working on my PC, but that is a 25 year old game. How many 25 year old games run on the PS5? That's right, almost none. As for shitty experience, don't make me laugh, I remember your posts about how Oblivion was so much better on the PS5/PS5 Pro. What was it? Oh yes, "Like I said, it's miles better on consoles, because on PC it's UNPLAYABLE CRAP." How poorly that statement aged, considered it still has pauses and stuttering on the Pro and FPS starts tanking until you actually restart the game. Stutters suck yes, but it is a vastly overstated issue, for the top 50 games (as ranked by Opencritic) for each of the years for 2022/2023/2024 only 3 had severe stuttering issues not present on console.while having to mess around with all the inconveniences and having a shitty experience sometimes with worse performance than a base console. Have at it and enjoy the benefits of that, I guess.
9070 has 220W tdp, it can even run on 500W psu( 9070xt is basically heavily overclocked 9070, same vram/same die just higher quality of it and oced to hell and back, hell u can make ur 9070 change into 9070xt if u put proper bios into it.It's more like buying a Lamborghini and do the maintenance in your backyard and using Ford parts. It's exactly like the Lambo dealership does minus the 100* markup.
I wouldn't mind these cards to last only until the end of the generation if the price was right.
The state of the market right now is ridiculous. At least where i live the situation is:
get a x60TI for the price of a 4070 was like 2-3 months before, with 16gb of vram with a performance close or inferior of a 3070.
get a 5070 with with 12gb of ram for 1,35* the price of a 5060TI, and suffers with a 12gb.
get a 9070xt for 1,6 to 1,75* and be cool until the end of the generation but its too damn expensive for a GPU.
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I said have at it and enjoy. You don't have to try so hard to justify your investment and sell it to me like like this awesome thing. Good for you, but your long post is pitiful really.What inconveniences exactly? The only recent issues I had with my PC was a driver bug that I resolved with a hotfix update. That took 5 minutes out of my day, shock and horror. I did have to follow a guide on how to get Mechwarrior 4 working on my PC, but that is a 25 year old game. How many 25 year old games run on the PS5? That's right, almost none. As for shitty experience, don't make me laugh, I remember your posts about how Oblivion was so much better on the PS5/PS5 Pro. What was it? Oh yes, "Like I said, it's miles better on consoles, because on PC it's UNPLAYABLE CRAP." How poorly that statement aged, considered it still has pauses and stuttering on the Pro and FPS starts tanking until you actually restart the game. Stutters suck yes, but it is a vastly overstated issue, for the top 50 games (as ranked by Opencritic) for each of the years for 2022/2023/2024 only 3 had severe stuttering issues not present on PC.
You seem to be utterly incapable of wrapping your head around the concept of people enjoying PC gaming over consoles.
I thought the asterisk was implied. Shop around on FB marketplace. Surely someone who's paying off a 5080 on Klarna is going to be pretty desperate to unload his 3080. Buy it for a low price. The middle end still exists, it's just sleeping right now.I get what you're trying to say but if new prices go up, used prices go up. That's just how it works.
Trying to insult me on a niche gaming forum about the length of my post when you have over 650 posts in two months is hilarious. A significant fraction of them ranting about PC gaming (sad). Come clean, who's alt are you? Nobody gets this worked up about platform warring unless they have tasted the banhammer.I said have at it and enjoy. You don't have to try so hard to justify your investment and sell it to me like like this awesome thing. Good for you, but your long post is pitiful really.
Yeah I know you all PCMR find the real value in your piracy. But even then, not worth it. I think I said "Bye" to you already. Have fun sinking your money on your hobby, but don't come here gaslighting with your bullshit, I won't let it pass
Well under 1k with the discount but at normal price it cost $460 more than the Pro. And a lot more than the base ps5.
Oblivion RM is pretty crap everywhere right now. Putting that one back on the backlog until this is patched up a bit on Steam.What inconveniences exactly? The only recent issues I had with my PC was a driver bug that I resolved with a hotfix update. That took 5 minutes out of my day, shock and horror. I did have to follow a guide on how to get Mechwarrior 4 working on my PC, but that is a 25 year old game. How many 25 year old games run on the PS5? That's right, almost none. As for shitty experience, don't make me laugh, I remember your posts about how Oblivion was so much better on the PS5/PS5 Pro. What was it? Oh yes, "Like I said, it's miles better on consoles, because on PC it's UNPLAYABLE CRAP." How poorly that statement aged, considered it still has pauses and stuttering on the Pro and FPS starts tanking until you actually restart the game. Stutters suck yes, but it is a vastly overstated issue, for the top 50 games (as ranked by Opencritic) for each of the years for 2022/2023/2024 only 3 had severe stuttering issues not present on console.
You seem to be utterly incapable of wrapping your head around the concept of people enjoying PC gaming over consoles.
and you read through 650 of my posts already, how long did that take you? what does that say about you? pathetic. Jeez, I seem to pick up stalkers all around here, this place is full of weirdos. Welcome to the ignore list.Trying to insult me on a niche gaming forum about the length of my post when you have over 650 posts in two months is hilarious. A significant fraction of them ranting about PC gaming (sad). Come clean, who's alt are you? Nobody gets this worked up about platform warring unless they have tasted the banhammer.
and you read through 650 of my posts already, how long did that take you? what does that say about you? pathetic. Jeez, I seem to pick up stalkers all around here, this place is fool of weirdos. Welcome to the ignore list.
Why on earth would I read through 650 of your posts? You just seem to appear everywhere ranting about PC gaming, which makes sense, since 650 posts in two months is quite a bit. The significant fraction comment was just me taking the piss, although I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. As for being on ignore, thank god, at least I won't get your replies to my posts anymore. Although, let's be honest here, you are totally going to click on view post to see what my reply is.and you read through 650 of my posts already, how long did that take you? what does that say about you? pathetic. Jeez, I seem to pick up stalkers all around here, this place is fool of weirdos. Welcome to the ignore list.
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"fool of weirdos" , I'm sure you meant full. But quite honestly, a "fool of weirdos" should be an actual phrase used referring to as a group of weirdos.
It's just an example with decent spec. 8GB is not great but ok for 1080P and most 1440p games. The system overall is quite a bit more powerful vs PS5/XSX, especially with DLSS.It's weaker than the series x and ps5 if that's an 8gb 4060. The biggest waste of $1000+. You can build a much better oc for that price.
True enough, that is on the back-burner for now. I completed Expedition 33, and now have fallen down the Battletech rabbit hole. Just finished up Mechwarrior 5: Clans, and I am now working my way through the Mechwarrior 4 games.Oblivion RM is pretty crap everywhere right now. Putting that one back on the backlog until this is patched up a bit on Steam.
But then the repliers aren't much different.Captain Toad really just couldn't stay away from this place. This is how I picture him writing all his posts.
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It's so funny to me that brand worshippers with very strong preferences, can't seem to wrap their mind around other people having their own preferences.
If I own a game and emulate it, am I still a pirate? For awhile I was playing an emulated version of WWE No Mercy because it ran at 60fps and it had a bigger roster. It was pretty fun, not much work to setup, and I did not have to hook up my N64. I wish I would have got on the Switch emulation before Nintendo shut them all down, so I could have played my Switch games, that I purchased, with better performance. Hopefully I get that with Switch 2. I think throwing the word "Pirate" around when a lot of people own games that they are emulating, is a little disingenuous. Sure, there are people who pirate anything and everything (most likely some GAF members), but I only emulate what I own. I have zero desire to play shit I don't own, if I did, I would have bought it.omg you're just a poor pirate gaslighting people here.
It's more of an illustration with the context that most PC gamers have this sort of hardware and not 4090s.Well under 1k with the discount but at normal price it cost $460 more than the Pro. And a lot more than the base ps5.
$235 coupon shows up for me. For $1200 it would be pretty bad deal.I see it at $1,160. I wouldn't call that thing "versatile" at all as PCs go.
Ok, a lot more powerfulDid you really call that CPU a bit more powerful???
You can by used launch switches that you can RCM for pretty cheap nowadays to dump your carts.If I own a game and emulate it, am I still a pirate? For awhile I was playing an emulated version of WWE No Mercy because it ran at 60fps and it had a bigger roster. It was pretty fun, not much work to setup, and I did not have to hook up my N64. I wish I would have got on the Switch emulation before Nintendo shut them all down, so I could have played my Switch games, that I purchased, with better performance. Hopefully I get that with Switch 2. I think throwing the word "Pirate" around when a lot of people own games that they are emulating, is a little disingenuous. Sure, their are people who pirate anything and everything, but I only emulate what I own. I have zero desire to play shit I don't own, if I did, I would have bought it.
Switch emulation is still around. Look into Citron and Ryujinx.If I own a game and emulate it, am I still a pirate? For awhile I was playing an emulated version of WWE No Mercy because it ran at 60fps and it had a bigger roster. It was pretty fun, not much work to setup, and I did not have to hook up my N64. I wish I would have got on the Switch emulation before Nintendo shut them all down, so I could have played my Switch games, that I purchased, with better performance. Hopefully I get that with Switch 2. I think throwing the word "Pirate" around when a lot of people own games that they are emulating, is a little disingenuous. Sure, there are people who pirate anything and everything (most likely some GAF members), but I only emulate what I own. I have zero desire to play shit I don't own, if I did, I would have bought it.
Oblivion RM is pretty crap everywhere right now. Putting that one back on the backlog until this is patched up a bit on Steam.
4090 max settings + frame generation and I disagree. It's perfectly playable and I don't see the dreaded shader compilation stutter. The problem is the performance should be a lot higher, but in terms if hitches and stability, it's okay.True enough, that is on the back-burner for now. I completed Expedition 33, and now have fallen down the Battletech rabbit hole. Just finished up Mechwarrior 5: Clans, and I am now working my way through the Mechwarrior 4 games.
Hopefully they can fix the most glaring issues on both consoles and PC.
You can by used launch switches that you can RCM for pretty cheap nowadays to dump your carts.
Thanks. I'll check both of these out if the Switch 2 does not satisfy me on the older games.Switch emulation is still around. Look into Citron and Ryujinx.
Oh, it is perfectly playable, just that I have had a couple issues with pauses. Nothing severe, but then Expedition 33 dropped and looked to be so interesting that it totally sucked me in. So I thought I would give it more time for some patches while I played 33. I finished 33, but then got into Battletech again, so Oblivion is low priority for me right now.4090 max settings + frame generation and I disagree. It's perfectly playable and I don't see the dreaded shader compilation stutter. The problem is the performance should be a lot higher, but in terms if hitches and stability, it's okay.
at this point you'll probably have to start pirating the components too.Bold of you to assume I buy my games for my 5000€ PC.
at least the 50 series was given 8gb of VRAM.Nvidia during the 6000 RTX series:
"Oh you want an entry level GPU? Here's the RTX 6050 with 8GB VRAM for $499"
Can somebody explain what is so awesome about PC Gaming?
You're right, I made a typo, it should be 6GB VRAM.at least the 50 series was given 8gb of VRAM.
That's quite bold of you to assume Bethesda is going to patch anything!Oblivion RM is pretty crap everywhere right now. Putting that one back on the backlog until this is patched up a bit on Steam.
Looks at his 5090 FE.... " I love you.. I am never letting you go even if you got a burn in connector ill fix you.. i will undervolt the fuck out of you so don't get tired...I will clean your fans every chance I can without unplugging you... just stay with me because its getting crazy outside "..This is insanity. It never stops. They just keep raising prices over and over again.
It's highway robbery.
Well they did mention on the latest Digital Foundry that they discovered the source of the stuttering, and are working on a fix. I dunno if there's currently a fix in the works for the save file memory leak though.That's quite bold of you to assume Bethesda is going to patch anything!![]()
The save file memory leak is a feature not a bug of Oblivion and Skyrim going back to the days of PS3 versions that crash after you've played your save file long enoughWell they did mention on the latest Digital Foundry that they discovered the source of the stuttering, and are working on a fix. I dunno if there's currently a fix in the works for the save file memory leak though.
The ol' Sopranos cut-to-black style of ending. Bold choice, I like it.The save file memory leak is a feature not a bug of Oblivion and Skyrim going back to the days of PS3 versions that crash after you've played your save file long enough
That's quite bold of you to assume Bethesda is going to patch anything!![]()
Captain Toad really just couldn't stay away from this place. This is how I picture him writing all his posts.
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It's so funny to me that brand worshippers with very strong preferences, can't seem to wrap their mind around other people having their own preferences.@
PCMR will never admit on the hassles of PC gaming ... just save some names wait for the next "well this x game has shitty pc port or bad driver or whatever" take some screenshots and just wait for the next discussion .. it shouldn't be that hard to find the same people crying for drivers and at the same time saying pc gaming has zero inconveniences.I said have at it and enjoy. You don't have to try so hard to justify your investment and sell it to me like like this awesome thing. Good for you, but your long post is pitiful really.
"Budget" and "awesome PC gaming" is not excactly hand in hand. But what's awesome about PC gaming is a bunch of stuff.Can somebody explain what is so awesome about PC Gaming?
If you're on a budget it seems almost impossible.
Because consoles don't have graphics cards.Can somebody explain what is so awesome about PC Gaming?
If you're on a budget it seems almost impossible.
So this has been in stock for over 2 hours
Have we finally found the end of excessive demand lol
Maybe if stuff starts getting in stock prices will start to drop??
$3,019.99 well I don't think it has a lot of demand.
So this has been in stock for over 2 hours
Have we finally found the end of excessive demand lol
Maybe if stuff starts getting in stock prices will start to drop??