NVIDIA GPU official prices allowed to rise across the board, again!

rodrigolfp said:
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omg you're just a poor pirate gaslighting people here.
 
Bonfires Down said:
Even a low-mid range GPU will last you upward of a decade if you want these days so overall the situation is fine. A GTX 1060 can still play many AAA games at lower settings and 30 fps.
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The 1000 series and the and the 2080ti are the greatest lightning in a bottle products ever released for PC imo. PC parts shouldn't age like wine!

Just to add, also;

5800X3D
7950/7970ghz editions
Intels 2600K with an overclock
Samsung SSDs
Corsair AX PSUs
 
QLQ said:
while having to mess around with all the inconveniences and having a shitty experience sometimes with worse performance than a base console. Have at it and enjoy the benefits of that, I guess.
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Speaking of goalposts moving…
 
Guardian Monkey said:
Why would they have a €5000 PC and pirate games? Sounds like a pain in the dick. Its like buying a supercar and putting the cheapest tires you can buy on it.

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It's more like buying a Lamborghini and do the maintenance in your backyard and using Ford parts. It's exactly like the Lambo dealership does minus the 100* markup.

PeteBull said:
Imho either get 9070, it has 16gigs of vram at least, which will be more and more useful each year, or fork up even more for 5070ti that is 16gigs too, if u have to go with ngreedia this round. Ofc in the end its about value so price/perf, nvidia has advantage coz of better rt and ai upscaling(fk framegen) so u gotta decide urself what u prioritise here, as a 3080ti owner(12gigs vram), defo dont buy 5070, rather even 4070ti super that has 16gigs if u find it at decent price(maybe used if u dont mind).

TLDR Absolutely dont go for 12gigs of vram at this budget if u want ur card to last longer than till 60xx series of card/next console gen.
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I wouldn't mind these cards to last only until the end of the generation if the price was right.
The state of the market right now is ridiculous. At least where i live the situation is:

get a x60TI for the price of a 4070 was like 2-3 months ago, with 16gb of vram with a performance close or inferior of a 3070.

get a 5070 with with 12gb of ram for 1,35* the price of a 5060TI, and suffers with a 12gb.

get a 9070xt for 1,6 to 1,75* and be cool until the end of the generation but its too damn expensive for a GPU.

Oh... i'll have to buy a new PSU too :)
 
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QLQ said:
while having to mess around with all the inconveniences and having a shitty experience sometimes with worse performance than a base console. Have at it and enjoy the benefits of that, I guess.
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What inconveniences exactly? The only recent issues I had with my PC was a driver bug that I resolved with a hotfix update. That took 5 minutes out of my day, shock and horror. I did have to follow a guide on how to get Mechwarrior 4 working on my PC, but that is a 25 year old game. How many 25 year old games run on the PS5? That's right, almost none. As for shitty experience, don't make me laugh, I remember your posts about how Oblivion was so much better on the PS5/PS5 Pro. What was it? Oh yes, "Like I said, it's miles better on consoles, because on PC it's UNPLAYABLE CRAP." How poorly that statement aged, considered it still has pauses and stuttering on the Pro and FPS starts tanking until you actually restart the game. Stutters suck yes, but it is a vastly overstated issue, for the top 50 games (as ranked by Opencritic) for each of the years for 2022/2023/2024 only 3 had severe stuttering issues not present on console.

You seem to be utterly incapable of wrapping your head around the concept of people enjoying PC gaming over consoles.
 
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Gp1 said:
It's more like buying a Lamborghini and do the maintenance in your backyard and using Ford parts. It's exactly like the Lambo dealership does minus the 100* markup.



I wouldn't mind these cards to last only until the end of the generation if the price was right.
The state of the market right now is ridiculous. At least where i live the situation is:

get a x60TI for the price of a 4070 was like 2-3 months before, with 16gb of vram with a performance close or inferior of a 3070.

get a 5070 with with 12gb of ram for 1,35* the price of a 5060TI, and suffers with a 12gb.

get a 9070xt for 1,6 to 1,75* and be cool until the end of the generation but its too damn expensive for a GPU.

Oh... i'll have to buy a new PSU too :)
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9070 has 220W tdp, it can even run on 500W psu( 9070xt is basically heavily overclocked 9070, same vram/same die just higher quality of it and oced to hell and back, hell u can make ur 9070 change into 9070xt if u put proper bios into it.

Ofc risk is there, and coz of much higher powerdraw( u basically making lower quality 9070xt die to handle that kind of heat) but performance is there :P
 
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Zathalus said:
What inconveniences exactly? The only recent issues I had with my PC was a driver bug that I resolved with a hotfix update. That took 5 minutes out of my day, shock and horror. I did have to follow a guide on how to get Mechwarrior 4 working on my PC, but that is a 25 year old game. How many 25 year old games run on the PS5? That's right, almost none. As for shitty experience, don't make me laugh, I remember your posts about how Oblivion was so much better on the PS5/PS5 Pro. What was it? Oh yes, "Like I said, it's miles better on consoles, because on PC it's UNPLAYABLE CRAP." How poorly that statement aged, considered it still has pauses and stuttering on the Pro and FPS starts tanking until you actually restart the game. Stutters suck yes, but it is a vastly overstated issue, for the top 50 games (as ranked by Opencritic) for each of the years for 2022/2023/2024 only 3 had severe stuttering issues not present on PC.

You seem to be utterly incapable of wrapping your head around the concept of people enjoying PC gaming over consoles.
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I said have at it and enjoy. You don't have to try so hard to justify your investment and sell it to me like like this awesome thing. Good for you, but your long post is pitiful really.
 
FalconPunch said:
I get what you're trying to say but if new prices go up, used prices go up. That's just how it works.
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I thought the asterisk was implied. Shop around on FB marketplace. Surely someone who's paying off a 5080 on Klarna is going to be pretty desperate to unload his 3080. Buy it for a low price. The middle end still exists, it's just sleeping right now.
 
Captain Toad Captain Toad really just couldn't stay away from this place. This is how I picture him writing all his posts.

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It's so funny to me that brand worshippers with very strong preferences, can't seem to wrap their mind around other people having their own preferences.
 
QLQ said:
I said have at it and enjoy. You don't have to try so hard to justify your investment and sell it to me like like this awesome thing. Good for you, but your long post is pitiful really.
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Trying to insult me on a niche gaming forum about the length of my post when you have over 650 posts in two months is hilarious. A significant fraction of them ranting about PC gaming (sad). Come clean, who's alt are you? Nobody gets this worked up about platform warring unless they have tasted the banhammer.
 
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QLQ said:
Yeah I know you all PCMR find the real value in your piracy. But even then, not worth it. I think I said "Bye" to you already. Have fun sinking your money on your hobby, but don't come here gaslighting with your bullshit, I won't let it pass
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Too be fair, some here actually rip their games to play on emus. Don't get me wrong though, it is a time consuming process. PC gaming is more time intensive on maintenance than console gaming. If you are happy with a trusted pretty good experience console gaming will give you that, its the beauty of console gaming. For PC, if you want to throw a bit more into it and have the option to achieve more flexible results for your gaming there you go, its the beauty of PC gaming.
 
scydrex said:
Well under 1k with the discount but at normal price it cost $460 more than the Pro. And a lot more than the base ps5.
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True. However, if you have interest in multiplayer or cloud saves you are going to be paying Sony hundreds more($80 each year) on top of the console. The difference then becomes smaller. Plus massive amount of games to choose from and mods.
 
Zathalus said:
What inconveniences exactly? The only recent issues I had with my PC was a driver bug that I resolved with a hotfix update. That took 5 minutes out of my day, shock and horror. I did have to follow a guide on how to get Mechwarrior 4 working on my PC, but that is a 25 year old game. How many 25 year old games run on the PS5? That's right, almost none. As for shitty experience, don't make me laugh, I remember your posts about how Oblivion was so much better on the PS5/PS5 Pro. What was it? Oh yes, "Like I said, it's miles better on consoles, because on PC it's UNPLAYABLE CRAP." How poorly that statement aged, considered it still has pauses and stuttering on the Pro and FPS starts tanking until you actually restart the game. Stutters suck yes, but it is a vastly overstated issue, for the top 50 games (as ranked by Opencritic) for each of the years for 2022/2023/2024 only 3 had severe stuttering issues not present on console.

You seem to be utterly incapable of wrapping your head around the concept of people enjoying PC gaming over consoles.
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Oblivion RM is pretty crap everywhere right now. Putting that one back on the backlog until this is patched up a bit on Steam.
 
Zathalus said:
Trying to insult me on a niche gaming forum about the length of my post when you have over 650 posts in two months is hilarious. A significant fraction of them ranting about PC gaming (sad). Come clean, who's alt are you? Nobody gets this worked up about platform warring unless they have tasted the banhammer.
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and you read through 650 of my posts already, how long did that take you? what does that say about you? pathetic. Jeez, I seem to pick up stalkers all around here, this place is full of weirdos. Welcome to the ignore list.
 
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QLQ said:
and you read through 650 of my posts already, how long did that take you? what does that say about you? pathetic. Jeez, I seem to pick up stalkers all around here, this place is fool of weirdos. Welcome to the ignore list.
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:messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: "fool of weirdos" , I'm sure you meant full. But quite honestly, a "fool of weirdos" should be an actual phrase used referring to as a group of weirdos.
 
QLQ said:
and you read through 650 of my posts already, how long did that take you? what does that say about you? pathetic. Jeez, I seem to pick up stalkers all around here, this place is fool of weirdos. Welcome to the ignore list.
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Why on earth would I read through 650 of your posts? You just seem to appear everywhere ranting about PC gaming, which makes sense, since 650 posts in two months is quite a bit. The significant fraction comment was just me taking the piss, although I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. As for being on ignore, thank god, at least I won't get your replies to my posts anymore. Although, let's be honest here, you are totally going to click on view post to see what my reply is.
 
FalconPunch said:
It's weaker than the series x and ps5 if that's an 8gb 4060. The biggest waste of $1000+. You can build a much better oc for that price.
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It's just an example with decent spec. 8GB is not great but ok for 1080P and most 1440p games. The system overall is quite a bit more powerful vs PS5/XSX, especially with DLSS.

The difficulty currently is with over 8bg GPUs for a reasonable price unless we are talking used. New 4060 Ti16GB, 5060 Ti GB, 4070/5070, 7800xt or a 9070 will eat up too much of the cost of trying to keep under $1K.
 
Guardian Monkey said:
Oblivion RM is pretty crap everywhere right now. Putting that one back on the backlog until this is patched up a bit on Steam.
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True enough, that is on the back-burner for now. I completed Expedition 33, and now have fallen down the Battletech rabbit hole. Just finished up Mechwarrior 5: Clans, and I am now working my way through the Mechwarrior 4 games.

Hopefully they can fix the most glaring issues on both consoles and PC.
 
QLQ said:
omg you're just a poor pirate gaslighting people here.
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If I own a game and emulate it, am I still a pirate? For awhile I was playing an emulated version of WWE No Mercy because it ran at 60fps and it had a bigger roster. It was pretty fun, not much work to setup, and I did not have to hook up my N64. I wish I would have got on the Switch emulation before Nintendo shut them all down, so I could have played my Switch games, that I purchased, with better performance. Hopefully I get that with Switch 2. I think throwing the word "Pirate" around when a lot of people own games that they are emulating, is a little disingenuous. Sure, there are people who pirate anything and everything (most likely some GAF members), but I only emulate what I own. I have zero desire to play shit I don't own, if I did, I would have bought it.
 
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scydrex said:
Well under 1k with the discount but at normal price it cost $460 more than the Pro. And a lot more than the base ps5.
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It's more of an illustration with the context that most PC gamers have this sort of hardware and not 4090s.

You can buy or build a decent PC for around $1-1.2K, that was mainly the point. For this particular link I just saw it and thought it's a bit console sized so would make a decent illustration.

QLQ said:
I see it at $1,160. I wouldn't call that thing "versatile" at all as PCs go.
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$235 coupon shows up for me. For $1200 it would be pretty bad deal.

rodrigolfp said:
Did you really call that CPU a bit more powerful???
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Ok, a lot more powerful 😉.
 
Boo Who? said:
If I own a game and emulate it, am I still a pirate? For awhile I was playing an emulated version of WWE No Mercy because it ran at 60fps and it had a bigger roster. It was pretty fun, not much work to setup, and I did not have to hook up my N64. I wish I would have got on the Switch emulation before Nintendo shut them all down, so I could have played my Switch games, that I purchased, with better performance. Hopefully I get that with Switch 2. I think throwing the word "Pirate" around when a lot of people own games that they are emulating, is a little disingenuous. Sure, their are people who pirate anything and everything, but I only emulate what I own. I have zero desire to play shit I don't own, if I did, I would have bought it.
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You can by used launch switches that you can RCM for pretty cheap nowadays to dump your carts.
 
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Boo Who? said:
If I own a game and emulate it, am I still a pirate? For awhile I was playing an emulated version of WWE No Mercy because it ran at 60fps and it had a bigger roster. It was pretty fun, not much work to setup, and I did not have to hook up my N64. I wish I would have got on the Switch emulation before Nintendo shut them all down, so I could have played my Switch games, that I purchased, with better performance. Hopefully I get that with Switch 2. I think throwing the word "Pirate" around when a lot of people own games that they are emulating, is a little disingenuous. Sure, there are people who pirate anything and everything (most likely some GAF members), but I only emulate what I own. I have zero desire to play shit I don't own, if I did, I would have bought it.
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Switch emulation is still around. Look into Citron and Ryujinx.
 
Guardian Monkey said:
Oblivion RM is pretty crap everywhere right now. Putting that one back on the backlog until this is patched up a bit on Steam.
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Zathalus said:
True enough, that is on the back-burner for now. I completed Expedition 33, and now have fallen down the Battletech rabbit hole. Just finished up Mechwarrior 5: Clans, and I am now working my way through the Mechwarrior 4 games.

Hopefully they can fix the most glaring issues on both consoles and PC.
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4090 max settings + frame generation and I disagree. It's perfectly playable and I don't see the dreaded shader compilation stutter. The problem is the performance should be a lot higher, but in terms if hitches and stability, it's okay.
 
Gaiff said:
4090 max settings + frame generation and I disagree. It's perfectly playable and I don't see the dreaded shader compilation stutter. The problem is the performance should be a lot higher, but in terms if hitches and stability, it's okay.
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Oh, it is perfectly playable, just that I have had a couple issues with pauses. Nothing severe, but then Expedition 33 dropped and looked to be so interesting that it totally sucked me in. So I thought I would give it more time for some patches while I played 33. I finished 33, but then got into Battletech again, so Oblivion is low priority for me right now.

Although, if I am being honest, Oblivion is my least favorite Elder Scrolls game. Morrowind was the one I enjoyed the most. If that had been remastered, I probably would have finished it twice by now.
 
winjer said:
This is insanity. It never stops. They just keep raising prices over and over again.
It's highway robbery.
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Looks at his 5090 FE.... " I love you.. I am never letting you go even if you got a burn in connector ill fix you.. i will undervolt the fuck out of you so don't get tired...I will clean your fans every chance I can without unplugging you... just stay with me because its getting crazy outside "..

Much love from your owner.
 
StereoVsn said:
That's quite bold of you to assume Bethesda is going to patch anything! 😅
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Well they did mention on the latest Digital Foundry that they discovered the source of the stuttering, and are working on a fix. I dunno if there's currently a fix in the works for the save file memory leak though.
 
rubik's dude said:
Well they did mention on the latest Digital Foundry that they discovered the source of the stuttering, and are working on a fix. I dunno if there's currently a fix in the works for the save file memory leak though.
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The save file memory leak is a feature not a bug of Oblivion and Skyrim going back to the days of PS3 versions that crash after you've played your save file long enough
 
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QLQ said:
I said have at it and enjoy. You don't have to try so hard to justify your investment and sell it to me like like this awesome thing. Good for you, but your long post is pitiful really.
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PCMR will never admit on the hassles of PC gaming ... just save some names wait for the next "well this x game has shitty pc port or bad driver or whatever" take some screenshots and just wait for the next discussion .. it shouldn't be that hard to find the same people crying for drivers and at the same time saying pc gaming has zero inconveniences.

The truth is all forms of gaming has pros and cons. Simple as that.
 
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Shaki12345 said:
Can somebody explain what is so awesome about PC Gaming?

If you're on a budget it seems almost impossible.
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"Budget" and "awesome PC gaming" is not excactly hand in hand. But what's awesome about PC gaming is a bunch of stuff.
High fps, high resolutions, freedom, mods to name a few.
On my "console PC" which is a microATX small form factor PC connected to the TV, i'm currently playing Clair Obscur in 120 fps in 4k. It's silk smooth and feels like "next gen" compared to my PS5 Pro.

On my other (main) PC I get close to 200fps and the experience is miles apart from the consoles.
I also don't have to pay a stupid subscription to play online in games.

But again, the price for this is a lot higher than the consoles, and budget PC gaming is certanly not what it was some years ago.
Than again the console prices certanly is not what they was either.
 
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