NVIDIA GPU official prices allowed to rise across the board, again!
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
If price is a problem for you even considering all the advantages, stick to consoles. For the majority of PC players the price vs consoles doesn't matter.
Shaki12345
Banned
I'll buy today's PC standard in 10 years for a bargain price. In the meantime I'll play most games on console (only when 40fps+).
Guardian Monkey
Member
Weird I'm pretty sure it did at launch. Because I was using it.
Zathalus
Member
If you have all the consoles then PC gaming is hardly that much more expensive. You can build something around the Pros power for around ~$1000. Or something significantly more powerful for around $1300. Or if you want something around base PS5 power then about $650-700.
That being said, hardware price has never been the strong suit of PCs and consoles almost have them beat on that front. People gravitate to PC gaming for all the other advantages it brings.
Bernardougf
Member
If you can wait.. wait for ps6.. I have one ps5 and ps5pro .. is not worth it imho.
winjer
Member
People: OMG this is getting too expensive!
Also people: Look at my new Asus Strix 5090
I don't have a 5090.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
I need to get a 6 figure job fast
Schmendrick
Banned
So you don`t want to play current games? I mean that`s ok ofc, but it`s not the norm.
And consoles are drastically going up in price, too.
People are gonna be floored when the next console generation comes around and barely does more or suddenly makes Pro-pricing look cheap.
I have a 6 figure job, and with how everything`s been going...better aim for 7 figures.
Can´t even imagine how fucked "essential workers" are now and will be in 5 more years of this, it`s not only luxury items that are going up and up after all.
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Doctor Hades
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This is something that started during COVID with scalpers and low stock but it seems ludicrous to me that unlike consoles, where I can eventually pre-order one at its actual MSRP, that I can no longer do the same for a PC GPU. It is just absurd how much the pricing has gotten out of control, so much so that I believe it is actually hurting the PC gaming market. GPU pricing now is such that you have to pay high end prices for a mid tier GPU and its a lottery as to whether you can actually buy one.
Luckily, I managed to snag an RTX 4080 Founders Edition for £1,100 from NVIDIA back in January 2023 and despite its obscene price this has proved to be a very good purchase in terms of performance for my targeted 1440p resolution on a 360 Hz QD-OLED display. In a way, I am kind of glad that the RTX 5080 was so underwhelming but it does leave me concerned for the RTX 6080, which would be the next obvious GPU upgrade for me. How much is that going to cost, I wonder?
Luckily, I managed to snag an RTX 4080 Founders Edition for £1,100 from NVIDIA back in January 2023 and despite its obscene price this has proved to be a very good purchase in terms of performance for my targeted 1440p resolution on a 360 Hz QD-OLED display. In a way, I am kind of glad that the RTX 5080 was so underwhelming but it does leave me concerned for the RTX 6080, which would be the next obvious GPU upgrade for me. How much is that going to cost, I wonder?
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justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
I guess it's the last chance I will have to buy in quite some time.
MikeM
Member
People referred to the PC community, not you specifically
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
In a normal competitive marketplace companies accepted lower profits after changing market circumstances. Nvidia's marketshare and hold on its customers is so enormous they can raise prices without any consequence to uphold their ridiculous profit margins. Videocard market is completely fucked up.
willothedog
Member
well that's incorrect because I'm using game pass with DLSS on 33.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Apparently that's the case mainly in US, CA, AU. European prices seem to be improving.
And heck, even in US one can probably pickup a 5070 or a 9070 and have a respectable gaming rig for like $1300 that will last a few years.
Edit: I am not saying that $1300 isn't a lot of money. But all in all, if you can make it last 4-5 years, it's not that bad. Games are generally cheaper, no need to pay for online play and saves and there are decades of gaming libraries (especially with emulation) to play.
And well, it's a computer so you can mess with other stuff, from AI to coding to photo/video editing to writing and more.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
What's sad is that with cost of living price hikes, if you live in a major city in US (LA, SF, San Diego, NYC, Boston, DC area, Chicago, Atlanta, etc…), $100K a year isn't all that much.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This ain't happening chief. Inflation is too high for the FED to cut interest rates in America right now.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
6 figure job doesnt mean just 100k.
But yes, i'm 100% staying away from major cities. I'd actually prefer to live in them but I can't afford anything over there. 100k a year gets turned into 50k when you live in Boston which sucks because New England feels like the only sane part of the US these days.
ValiantInstance
Member
AMD really need to show some foresight and not follow suit with this. Nvidia are willing them to take the market as they would rather focus on AI.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Well, yeah, I just chose the lower part of the 6 figure spectrum. If you make $500K plus you are good to go even in SF, LA or NYC.
MarV0
Member
I would not give advice if I were you.
You spent over a grand and still stuck with a console.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
yea but that feels like a pipe dream in todays job market
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Do you really think that TSMC increasing prices won't affect consoles?
Nvidia margins are nuts. Console margins are already super thin. Console makers are not gonna sell you a console at a huge loss. We'll see if this 90 day tariff cease fire does anything.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
I mean this is a great opportunity for Intel to sweep in and capture a great market share since they have their own foundries. Next gen Arc celestial GPUs will hopefully compete more in the mid-range.
Anything TSMC is gonna go up.
Anything TSMC is gonna go up.
I specifically am talking about in the US, the country that is causing all of these problems. (For the record, I live in the US).
VolticArchangel
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Zathalus
Member
While the Euro has indeed strengthened by around ~10% since the launch of the 5090, Nvidia did reduce the MSRP in the EU by around ~4.5% on average. Using the 5070 as an example, you can pick it up now for €589, which (removing VAT) equates to about the US MSRP of $549. 5060ti/5070ti 16GB is also US MSRP, 5080 is slightly over. 5090 is the only GPU still insane. Even the 9070XT is close to the US MSRP (naturally with VAT). Stock levels have generally been good as well.
It's actually a pretty good time to build a PC in most of the EU now.
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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If you buy more than a couple of games a year and are fine with 1080p or upscaled resolutions, PC Gaming, despite having a higher upfront cost attached to it, is still less expensive than console gaming in most scenarios.
Cyberpunkd
Member
This is what is already happening:
NVIDIA's most recent earnings call for Q4 FY2025 confirms that revenue from its dedicated graphics card (gaming) segment declined both sequentially and year-over-year.
Key Figures and Trends
• Gaming Revenue (Dedicated Graphics Cards):
• Q4 FY2025 gaming revenue was $2.54 billion, down 22% quarter-over-quarter and 11% year-over-year.
• This decline is attributed primarily to supply constraints, as NVIDIA prioritized production capacity for its high-margin AI/data center GPUs over gaming products.
• Despite the quarterly drop, full-year gaming revenue increased 9% year-over-year to $11.4 billion, indicating strong demand throughout the year, but Q4 specifically saw a notable dip.
• Overall Company Revenue:
• NVIDIA posted record total revenue of $39.3 billion for Q4 FY2025, up 12% sequentially and 78% year-over-year, driven overwhelmingly by the data center segment.
• Data center revenue, fueled by AI GPU demand, reached $35.58 billion in Q4, up 16% quarter-over-quarter and 93% year-over-year.
Guess why?
• Production Prioritization: NVIDIA uses the same TSMC production lines for both AI/data center and gaming GPUs. Due to overwhelming demand and higher margins in the AI segment, production was shifted toward AI chips, limiting supply for gaming GPUs and contributing to the revenue decline in the dedicated graphics card market.
Here is NVIDIA's message to gamers:
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Yeah, really hope Intel and Samsung can get their shit in order. Hell, maybe a miracle will happen and Global Foundries will get to 7nm/8nm process nodes from 14nm they are stuck on now.
The "majority of PC players"? Like the 20 people in this forum? and another 30 around here tipping trash cans over looking for "used" parts? Lmao
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Exactly. It's not like "the majority of PC gamers" are not price averse. Specially in this economy.
Bonfires Down
Member
Even a low-mid range GPU will last you upward of a decade if you want these days so overall the situation is fine. A GTX 1060 can still play many AAA games at lower settings and 30 fps.
poodaddy
Gold Member
Also, beyond price, PC gaming is about far more than just playing the most recent games at standard resolutions and framerates. I love PC as a platform for reasons far beyond such simple stuff. I mod a lot. I also work online. I prefer ultra wide monitors and 240hz + panels. I like to replace sound files and textures. I like to remove intros and modify save files.
When people act like consoles are comparable to PC, they're either ignorant or being disingenuous. Ignorance is fine, no big deal, but I feel like most of the people on this forum who can't wait to dunk on PC gaming at every turn are definitely the latter. I love that console players love consoles, cool stuff guys, do your thing, I've got all the consoles too, but I prefer PC and always will, and I can't figure out why people are bothered by that. Prices right now are absolutely fucked across the board; software, hardware, consoles, PC's, it doesn't matter dude everything is fucked, so all things are equal to me and I genuinely just prefer PC. It is what it is.
KenaiPhoenix
Member
Remember people, they can rise the price but WE are the ones that set it.
Dont buy their shit, no overpriced GPU, Consoles, games, services... If we buy at the prices they want, we validate the prices and it is set as a new standard, this is how prices works. If their stocks products sell shit, they wont acknowledge the mistake but lower their prices on the next project.
This is a war of attrition, and we must win.
Dont buy their shit, no overpriced GPU, Consoles, games, services... If we buy at the prices they want, we validate the prices and it is set as a new standard, this is how prices works. If their stocks products sell shit, they wont acknowledge the mistake but lower their prices on the next project.
This is a war of attrition, and we must win.
Zathalus
Member
Yeah, I recall the late 90s and early 2000s where your card was obsolete pretty quickly. Not just in performance but in feature set as well. Meanwhile a mid-range card bought 6 years ago can still play most games at roughly PS5 equivalent settings today.
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PS5 Pro right now is expensive? The Xbox 2tb cost $730 and the 1tb cost $600. What you think about that? Series S 512gb $380 and you can get a PS5 Slim digital astrobot for $400 now.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
Yep, here is a simple fully prebuilt example off Amazon for under $1K US. Basically it's close to a console form and a bit more powerful vs vanilla PS5/XSX and a lot more versatile.
Aenima
Member
In my Expedition 33 thers only DLSS options and no FSR. Unless the game detects what card you have and just present options for that card.
simpatico
Member
I game on PC because of price. A little more expensive up front, but everything after that is cheaper. Many get caught up looking at the most cutting edge cards. I recently bought a used 6750xt for $200 and I'm playing all the new releases just fine. Best thing is, I'm still playing the very first games I ever bought on PC with free HD remasters. Plus you don't have to beg devs for 60fps patches. You just patch it yourself. People say they don't want to deal with the hassle of that, but somehow begging devs isn't a hassle.
See RDR2 PS5 situation.
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