If price is a problem for you even considering all the advantages, stick to consoles. For the majority of PC players the price vs consoles doesn't matter.Price. I have all consoles. To get a better exp on PC I need to invest a LOT of money. Not worth it
Waiting for a affordable system to play Alan Wake 2. PS5 Pro maybe at 40 or the PS6.
I'll buy today's PC standard in 10 years for a bargain price. In the meantime I'll play most games on console (only when 40fps+).If price is a problem for you even considering all the advantages, stick to consoles. For the majority of PC players the price vs consoles doesn't matter.
More and more PC gamepass games are shipping without DLSS.
Only FSR is a choice.
Started Expedition 33 this weekend and yep only FSR. Maybe Microsoft is colluding with AMD?
I might as well forget Nvidia.
If you have all the consoles then PC gaming is hardly that much more expensive. You can build something around the Pros power for around ~$1000. Or something significantly more powerful for around $1300. Or if you want something around base PS5 power then about $650-700.Price. I have all consoles. To get a better exp on PC I need to invest a LOT of money. Not worth it
Waiting for a affordable system to play Alan Wake 2. PS5 Pro maybe at 40 or the PS6.
If you can wait.. wait for ps6.. I have one ps5 and ps5pro .. is not worth it imho.Price. I have all consoles. To get a better exp on PC I need to invest a LOT of money. Not worth it
Waiting for a affordable system to play Alan Wake 2. PS5 Pro maybe at 40 or the PS6.
People: OMG this is getting too expensive!
Also people: Look at my new Asus Strix 5090![]()
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So you don`t want to play current games? I mean that`s ok ofc, but it`s not the norm.I'll buy today's PC standard in 10 years for a bargain price. In the meantime I'll play most games on console (only when 40fps+).
I have a 6 figure job, and with how everything`s been going...better aim for 7 figures.I need to get a 6 figure job fast
People referred to the PC community, not you specificallyI don't have a 5090.
Looking at the article, seems like this increase comes from TSMC. Nvidia is just following their price increase.
So other companies, such as AMD, Apple, Intel, QUALCOMM, etc, will do it as well.
But most of the article is talking about how the blocking of AI chips to China, is hurting Nvidia profits.
well that's incorrect because I'm using game pass with DLSS on 33.More and more PC gamepass games are shipping without DLSS.
Only FSR is a choice.
Started Expedition 33 this weekend and yep only FSR. Maybe Microsoft is colluding with AMD?
I might as well forget Nvidia.
Apparently that's the case mainly in US, CA, AU. European prices seem to be improving.Desktop PC gaming is for rich people. Budget PC gaming is now buying one of those PC handhelds.
What's sad is that with cost of living price hikes, if you live in a major city in US (LA, SF, San Diego, NYC, Boston, DC area, Chicago, Atlanta, etc…), $100K a year isn't all that much.I need to get a 6 figure job fast
I am a youngling, any old, like real old GAF members lived through the 70-80s depression / inflation? How did it all ended?
Today it is like a slow burn, surely businesses cannot keep using the high demand excuses to raise prices? PS6 to cost $999?
With Fed rates cut expected this FOMC, fiat money will be more useless?
6 figure job doesnt mean just 100k.What's sad is that with cost of living price hikes, if you live in a major city in US (LA, SF, San Diego, NYC, Boston, DC area, Chicago, Atlanta, etc…), $100K a year isn't all that much.
Well, yeah, I just chose the lower part of the 6 figure spectrum. If you make $500K plus you are good to go even in SF, LA or NYC.6 figure job doesnt mean just 100k.
But yes, i'm 100% staying away from major cities. I'd actually prefer to live in them but I can't afford anything over there. 100k a year gets turned into 50k when you live in Boston which sucks because New England feels like the only sane part of the US these days.
I would not give advice if I were you.If you can wait.. wait for ps6.. I have one ps5 and ps5pro .. is not worth it imho.
yea but that feels like a pipe dream in todays job marketIf you make $500K plus you are good to go even in SF, LA or NYC.
Do you really think that TSMC increasing prices won't affect consoles?
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I specifically am talking about in the US, the country that is causing all of these problems. (For the record, I live in the US).Hold out where? They already raised their console prices around the world a month ago everywhere besides the US.
While the Euro has indeed strengthened by around ~10% since the launch of the 5090, Nvidia did reduce the MSRP in the EU by around ~4.5% on average. Using the 5070 as an example, you can pick it up now for €589, which (removing VAT) equates to about the US MSRP of $549. 5060ti/5070ti 16GB is also US MSRP, 5080 is slightly over. 5090 is the only GPU still insane. Even the 9070XT is close to the US MSRP (naturally with VAT). Stock levels have generally been good as well.The Euro has increased substantially, due to loss in trust in the dollar as a safe currency, and investors, companies and countries switching to safer coins, such as the Euro, the Yuan, the Swiss Franc, etc.
This has been offsetting price increases a bit.
If you buy more than a couple of games a year and are fine with 1080p or upscaled resolutions, PC Gaming, despite having a higher upfront cost attached to it, is still less expensive than console gaming in most scenarios.Can somebody explain what is so awesome about PC Gaming?
If you're on a budget it seems almost impossible.
This is what is already happening:Consumers need to step up, much as they have done against other things(i.e. McDonalds, which forced value meals back out) and just say "Okay, we're done." and no longer purchase things.
I mean, there is a limit to how much consumers can or willingly will take and we've been rapidly reaching that point in a great many areas.
Yeah, really hope Intel and Samsung can get their shit in order. Hell, maybe a miracle will happen and Global Foundries will get to 7nm/8nm process nodes from 14nm they are stuck on now.I mean this is a great opportunity for Intel to sweep in and capture a great market share since they have their own foundries. Next gen Arc celestial GPUs will hopefully compete more in the mid-range.
Anything TSMC is gonna go up.
The "majority of PC players"? Like the 20 people in this forum? and another 30 around here tipping trash cans over looking for "used" parts? LmaoIf price is a problem for you even considering all the advantages, stick to consoles. For the majority of PC players the price vs consoles doesn't matter.
I mean overall there are a lot of folks gaming on PCs, but if you look at most popular cards on Steam, they sure aren't top of the line cards.9ñ
The "majority of PC players"? Like the 20 people in this forum? and another 30 around here tipping trash cans looking for "used" parts? Lmao
Exactly. It's not like "the majority of PC gamers" are not price averse. Specially in this economy.I mean overall there are a lot of folks gaming on PCs, but if you look at most popular cards on Steam, they sure aren't top of the line cards.
It's the 3060/4060 and the laptop versions of these that have the most users.
Also, beyond price, PC gaming is about far more than just playing the most recent games at standard resolutions and framerates. I love PC as a platform for reasons far beyond such simple stuff. I mod a lot. I also work online. I prefer ultra wide monitors and 240hz + panels. I like to replace sound files and textures. I like to remove intros and modify save files.If you buy more than a couple of games a year and are fine with 1080p or upscaled resolutions, PC Gaming, despite having a higher upfront cost attached to it, is still less expensive than console gaming in most scenarios.
Yeah, I recall the late 90s and early 2000s where your card was obsolete pretty quickly. Not just in performance but in feature set as well. Meanwhile a mid-range card bought 6 years ago can still play most games at roughly PS5 equivalent settings today.Even a low-mid range GPU will last you upward of a decade if you want these days so overall the situation is fine. A GTX 1060 can still play many AAA games at lower settings and 30 fps.
PS5 Pro right now is expensive? The Xbox 2tb cost $730 and the 1tb cost $600. What you think about that? Series S 512gb $380 and you can get a PS5 Slim digital astrobot for $400 now.Xbox has already increase their prices for consoles. And the PS5 Pro is expensive as f*** for a console.
And you can bet that the Switch 2 is going to be affected.
Whether you like it or not, all gamers will be affected.
Yep, here is a simple fully prebuilt example off Amazon for under $1K US. Basically it's close to a console form and a bit more powerful vs vanilla PS5/XSX and a lot more versatile.Exactly. It's not like "the majority of PC gamers" are not price averse. Specially in this economy.
In my Expedition 33 thers only DLSS options and no FSR. Unless the game detects what card you have and just present options for that card.More and more PC gamepass games are shipping without DLSS.
Only FSR is a choice.
Started Expedition 33 this weekend and yep only FSR. Maybe Microsoft is colluding with AMD?
I might as well forget Nvidia.
I game on PC because of price. A little more expensive up front, but everything after that is cheaper. Many get caught up looking at the most cutting edge cards. I recently bought a used 6750xt for $200 and I'm playing all the new releases just fine. Best thing is, I'm still playing the very first games I ever bought on PC with free HD remasters. Plus you don't have to beg devs for 60fps patches. You just patch it yourself. People say they don't want to deal with the hassle of that, but somehow begging devs isn't a hassle.If price is a problem for you even considering all the advantages, stick to consoles. For the majority of PC players the price vs consoles doesn't matter.