Killjoy-NL
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Bragging rights while you try to find the cheapest games possible.
NVIDIA GPU official prices allowed to rise across the board, again!
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Trolling much?
Shaki12345
Banned
True story. Except for the fact that a good PC (better than console) is still expensive.
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Hudo
Member
Bold of you to assume I buy my games for my 5000€ PC.
Well under 1k with the discount but at normal price it cost $460 more than the Pro. And a lot more than the base ps5.
I see it at $1,160. I wouldn't call that thing "versatile" at all as PCs go.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Did you really call that CPU a bit more powerful???
Celcius
°Temp. member
Might want to add this to the OP
www.tomshardware.com
Nvidia reportedly raises GPU prices by 10-15% as manufacturing costs surge — tariffs and TSMC price hikes filter down to retailers
Looks like inflated GPU prices are here to stay
Guardian Monkey
Member
Cyclically this happens with components.
lol i dont even know what that means
Bernardougf
Member
So
Shaki12345
stated that he's not into PC for money saving reasons and already have all the consoles, and wanted to now if maybe he should buy the ps5pro now or wait for the ps6 and I responded specifically to this part.. now Im curious in what part of your retarded line of though My spending and sticking with consoles have to do with this interaction. Please enlighten me with your big brain.
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PeteBull
Member
what, the 20 people in forums around the world?And almost everyone else out there in the world...
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
TheRaidenPT
Member
I'm holding my 7900XTX until UDNA, then i'm going all out on the high end card
rodrigolfp
Let's do it the anecdotal way (just for the sake of argument). how many people you know, personally, that actively game on a PC superior to a base PS5 (at least a 2080/3070 with a CPU better than a 5600x. I'm talking clearly superior here)? Because I know 3 people with such PCs, but I know around 20 with PS5s/Series X.what, the 20 people in forums around the world?
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Euler007
Member
Yeah sure on a spreadsheet but good luck playing the latest game that dropped on it.
Zathalus
Member
What exactly would a 5060ti 16GB struggle with? If you are referring to PS5 exclusives, sure you have that waiting for the port if you stick strictly to PC, but I was strictly discussing cost.
Gp1
Member
Great news for me. First I discovered that almost every x60 Ti/xt suffers big on pcie 4 slots (I'm on a b660 pci4, so -10% performance). Now a +15% in the price.
So 25% plus off the table before even buying it.
I'll have to squeeze my budget and get 12 gb *70 card that will be suffers from programed obsolesce in no time.
What a shitty state the entire market, both consoles and GPU, is right now.
So 25% plus off the table before even buying it.
I'll have to squeeze my budget and get 12 gb *70 card that will be suffers from programed obsolesce in no time.
What a shitty state the entire market, both consoles and GPU, is right now.
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FalconPunch
Member
I get what you're trying to say but if new prices go up, used prices go up. That's just how it works.I game on PC because of price. A little more expensive up front, but everything after that is cheaper. Many get caught up looking at the most cutting edge cards. I recently bought a used 6750xt for $200 and I'm playing all the new releases just fine. Best thing is, I'm still playing the very first games I ever bought on PC with free HD remasters. Plus you don't have to beg devs for 60fps patches. You just patch it yourself. People say they don't want to deal with the hassle of that, but somehow begging devs isn't a hassle.
FalconPunch
Member
It's weaker than the series x and ps5 if that's an 8gb 4060. The biggest waste of $1000+. You can build a much better oc for that price.
Zathalus
Member
I personally know 9 with PCs ranging from a 3070 all the way up to a 5090. I know 3 people that actually own a modern console, with one of those being a Switch. If I expand the criteria to 4060 and 3060s I can probably add another 10 onto that. I'm talking about friends and family here, not a random coworker who said they have a PS5 or gaming PC, can't really keep track of that.
Let's do it the anecdotal way (just for the sake of argument). how many people you know, personally, that actively game on a PC superior to a base PS5 (at least a 2080/3070 with a CPU better than a 5600x. I'm talking clearly superior here)? Because I know 3 people with such PCs, but I know around 20 with PS5s/Series X.
rm082e
Member
In the past, you could build a gaming PC that was competitive with then-current generation consoles for less than $1000 and get better performance. It was still a premium experience, but one that many found worth it given no pay-to-play-online service, deeper discounts, etc. But obviously as parts started to rise in cost, the value proposition of PC gaming compared to console became less and less. It crossed the threshold into "for enthusiasts only" with the 4000 series and we've been stuck there since.
I felt disgusted spending $880 on a 9070 XT a couple of weeks ago. It's too much money. But now that I have it in my machine and I'm back to running games maxed at 1440 with minimum frame rates in the 90s, it's pure bliss as far as the experience goes. For me, I don't have a bunch of other hobbies. I don't spend money on collectables or travel or stuff like alcohol. So while I don't like the spend, I can spend whatever I need to spend to get the experience I want.
PeteBull
Member
Imho either get 9070, it has 16gigs of vram at least, which will be more and more useful each year, or fork up even more for 5070ti that is 16gigs too, if u have to go with ngreedia this round. Ofc in the end its about value so price/perf, nvidia has advantage coz of better rt and ai upscaling(fk framegen) so u gotta decide urself what u prioritise here, as a 3080ti owner(12gigs vram), defo dont buy 5070, rather even 4070ti super that has 16gigs if u find it at decent price(maybe used if u dont mind).
TLDR Absolutely dont go for 12gigs of vram at this budget if u want ur card to last longer than till 60xx series of card/next console gen.
Guardian Monkey
Member
Why would they have a €5000 PC and pirate games? Sounds like a pain in the dick. Its like buying a supercar and putting the cheapest tires you can buy on it.It means
PeteBull
Member
Coz u can save 2-3k usd/euro yearly if u are hardcore gamer which means u can keep buying top of the line rig every gen ^^Why would they have a €5000 PC and pirate games? Sounds like a pain in the dick. Its like buying a supercar and putting the cheapest tires you can buy on it.
Shaki12345
Banned
That's a really thoughtful response and way of thinking. Putting your experience into perspective.
MiguelItUp
Member
Glad I got my 7900 XTX when I did. I don't plan on touching anything for a long, long while.
I hope things shift at some point. This is all getting absolutely ridiculous.
I hope things shift at some point. This is all getting absolutely ridiculous.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Funny of you thinking power matter to people playing at whatever PC they are playing. People with potato PC playing Lol, Dota, CS don't care about console price. People playing with a PC close in power to consoles don't care about console price. People playing with RTX 5090 care the least about console price. Maybe only those playing multiplatform games on a PC with close price care about the console prices.
Let's do it the anecdotal way (just for the sake of argument). how many people you know, personally, that actively game on a PC superior to a base PS5 (at least a 2080/3070 with a CPU better than a 5600x. I'm talking clearly superior here)? Because I know 3 people with such PCs, but I know around 20 with PS5s/Series X.
3070s and 4060s are not woth the hassle for PC Gaming. Those 10 you know call themselves PC gamers, they're just poor.
Thanks for not answering the question. But that non-answer is enough to know.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Zathalus
Member
Your very post I responded to asked for how many people who have a PC with a GPU better than a 2080/3070? I then responded that I know 9 people with a GPU better than a 3070. If you remove the 3070, then I know 8 people with a 4070/ 3080ti and up. Why do you always move the goalposts when people respond to you? If somebody with a 3070 is poor what does that make a PS5 owner? Homeless?
yeah, no. Bye
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Continued declines and inflated pricing.
We only have ourselves to blame by feeding the system.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
8GB GPUs for the win.
also 90 days pause to the comercial war? price going down incoming?!?!?.
also 90 days pause to the comercial war? price going down incoming?!?!?.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
No goalpost move, you crybaby. I said, not worth the hassle for PC Gaming. I'd rather game on a base PS5 than on those things. And if they serve them enough for whatever crap they play that's not very demanding /1080p as well, good for them, but those people playing a couple games are just casuals or simply can't afford something better, which is almost always the case.
rodrigolfp
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Zathalus
Member
It was literally the very definition of goalpost moving, pretend otherwise if you must.
If you prefer to game on a PS5, great, more power to you, nothing wrong with that at all. Tens of millions of others prefer otherwise. I'd personally rather game on a 4060 or 3070 than a PS5 any day, as a PS5 simply cannot fully do what I expect from a gaming machine.
Yeah I know you all PCMR find the real value in your piracy. But even then, not worth it. I think I said "Bye" to you already. Have fun sinking your money on your hobby, but don't come here gaslighting with your bullshit, I won't let it passIt's worth the hassle (whatever that means) just to play Mario Kart 8 and Zelda TotK 4k/ultrawide 60 fps.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Yeah and a 3070 does what you expect of a gaming machine...you're so full of shit.
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you just admitted yourself you pirate Switch games? buffon!Thanks for confirming your ignorance/trolling.
Zathalus
Member
Not fully, but it meets far more than a PS5 does. I want M+KB support for a lot of games, I like modding, I like emulation, I want to be able to play older games at higher FPS, I enjoy PC specific games that will never make it to consoles, and I certainly don't want to pay a monthly fee just so I can play multiplayer on the occasion. All the PS5 offers is a handful of earlier exclusives and ease of use in comparison, not nearly enough to drive me to using it as a primary gaming device.
Not hard to read between the lines here. Not even need to, it's explicit what you posted:It's worth the hassle (whatever that means) just to play Mario Kart 8 and Zelda TotK 4k/ultrawide 60 fps.
Piracy makes all the hassle that comes with PC gaming worth it!
Buffon!
while having to mess around with all the inconveniences and having a shitty experience sometimes with worse performance than a base console. Have at it and enjoy the benefits of that, I guess.