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[Spyxos]

Although we've heard wind of price cuts coming to the GeForce RTX 40 Series, new info from China points to NVIDIA simply slowing down production, with the company informing its AICs that supply for the GeForce RTX 4070 will effectively stop for a month.

Stopping supply by a month will minimize the oversupply of the new GPU to allow partners to sell through the current inventory and remaining GeForce RTX 30 Series stock. There are still previous-generation GPUs, so sales have been slow for the RTX 4070. With AMD lowering the price point of its 16GB RDNA 2 cards like the Radeon RX 6950 XT, 6900 Xt, and 6800 XT, massive discounts on these GPUs are hard to resist.




https://www.tweaktown.com/news/9115...x-4070-production-due-to-low-sales/index.html

 

[nightmare-slain]

PC gamers are so bloody stubborn. (iam a pc gamer)

People are getting caught up so much on the naming scheme. "A 4070/4080 should be $XXX!!! I ain't buying a x70 for $XXX when I've been buying a x80 for the same price! "

Forget about the name. Buy the card that fits your budget and performance goals.

But hey I'm one of the idiots who bought a 4080 so fuck me. It's an amazing card and a huge step up from my 2080 and I'm glad I didn't buy a 3000 card lol

 

[Zathalus]

Goddamn Nvidia, just drop it to $499 you fuckers.

 

[Spyxos]

Goddamn Nvidia, just drop it to $499 you fuckers.

Or even far below.

 

[Zathalus]

Or even far below.

Hey, I'm trying to be somewhat realistic.

 

[Bulletbrain]

PC gamers are so bloody stubborn. (iam a pc gamer)

People are getting caught up so much on the naming scheme. "A 4070/4080 should be $XXX!!! I ain't buying a x70 for $XXX when I've been buying a x80 for the same price! "

Forget about the name. Buy the card that fits your budget and performance goals.

But hey I'm one of the idiots who bought a 4080 so fuck me. It's an amazing card and a huge step up from my 2080 and I'm glad I didn't buy a 3000 card lol

It's not just about what one can afford. The value proposition is utterly ridiculous this gen. It's good that the market is finally being somewhat rational and is starting to reject these poor value products.

Hold the line peeps!

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Just drop the price and keep up production

 

[//DEVIL//]

Just drop the price and keep up production

They won't do that. It will look bad for a company to reduce the price of a card that just released. Shows them weak. While lower production of the card shows they are not gonna budge and it will create a demand later


Also Nvidia will just simply deny the rumor of lower production and move on

 

[Xdrive05]

So they would rather not even make and sell them, than to drop the price.

AMD and Intel need to step it up and murder this monopoly.

 

[ReBurn]

It can't be that the prices are too high. It must be that they're just making too many.

 

[Soodanim]

 

[chriskun]

Do people even know how much it costs to make these cards?

 

[diffusionx]

No bad GPUs, just bad prices, and Nvidia is proving this axiom true this generation.

 

[Haint]

Cheaper to fire people and set factories idle. Meanwhile 7 months later and at $1600+, many 4090 models are still perpetually sold out, notably the best MSRP cards.

 

[Black_Stride]

So they would rather not even make and sell them, than to drop the price.

AMD and Intel need to step it up and murder this monopoly.

And in the 4070 class card category......AMD and Intel absolutely should be capable of producing a much better value preposition.
Let Nvidia keep making 4090s and these super enthusiast tier cards......in the "midrange" Intel and AMD should be eating.
Come and feast you dogs, Nvidia is clearly dropping the ball.

 

[Spyxos]

It can't be that the prices are too high. It must be that they're just making too many.

Don't you think the price is too expensive? But yes, they might have produced too much.

 

[kiphalfton]

So they would rather not even make and sell them, than to drop the price.

AMD and Intel need to step it up and murder this monopoly.

Yeah.

Get rid of the "cheapo" RTX 4070 line and make people buy the next thing up (i.e. the RTX 4070 Ti for $900 or the RTX 4080 for $1200).

Hell while they're at it just get rid of the RTX 4070 Ti too.

 

[ReBurn]

Don't you think the price is too expensive? But yes, they might have produced too much.

The price is too high. I can understand commanding a premium for the features they offer but their prices aren't really justified this gen in my opinion.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

PC gamers are so bloody stubborn. (iam a pc gamer)

People are getting caught up so much on the naming scheme. "A 4070/4080 should be $XXX!!! I ain't buying a x70 for $XXX when I've been buying a x80 for the same price! "

Forget about the name. Buy the card that fits your budget and performance goals.

But hey I'm one of the idiots who bought a 4080 so fuck me. It's an amazing card and a huge step up from my 2080 and I'm glad I didn't buy a 3000 card lol

While this is generally good advice, you know what the problem with this is. Ignoring the ridiculous prices we were paying, just going of MSRP

Say your budget for a GPU is $700. In 2019 you could get a 2080 Super at that price. In 2020 a 3080. In 2023, that gets you a 4070. Barely. So next year it gets you what? A 5060?

 

[DenchDeckard]

 

[Raphael]

The price is fine, the performance should have been better - 3080ti levels and it should have had 16gb vram. It would have been flying off the shelfs.

But nope, NV keeps being a greedy bastard.

 

[Honey Bunny]

And there was much rejoicing

 

[SmokedMeat]

Glad to see there’s some cracks forming in Nvidia’s armor. PC gamers will hopefully continue to not buy these poor value cards, until prices are lowered.

Nvidia and AMD want the overpriced miner days to continue at our expense. Fuck ‘em.

 

[THE DUCK]

This is more of symptom of the softening economy that NVidia's vice grip on GPU's. Doubt this will change pricing much.

 

[Melon Husk]

This is more of symptom of the softening economy that NVidia's vice grip on GPU's. Doubt this will change pricing much.

Yes, but don't forget PS5 sales are up.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Ah, the things you can do when you have no competition!

 

[adamosmaki]

Well looking various online shops here in EU like mindfactory.de almost all rtx 4070s models are available and their prices saw a small decrease since launch which is a first for a major GPU launch so no surprise nvidia is lowering production

 

[LiquidMetal14]

4070 related. Just uploaded today.

 

[JRW]

4070 is performing really close to where it should be , right up there with an RTX 3080 but $599 for a base 70 series card is just bonkers.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

People actually think it costs Nvidia $1 to make a card that sells for $600.

If they aren't reducing prices but lowering production instead it means they literally can't without selling for a loss. But don't tell that to the big brains on Reddit who think Nvidia owes them previous gen $1600 3090 performance for $100.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Nvidia would rather just cut off production than lower margins. They really hate their customers. At this rate it’s better to just stick with your old card at lower settings.

 

[Hot5pur]

People actually think it costs Nvidia $1 to make a card that sells for $600.

If they aren't reducing prices but lowering production instead it means they literally can't without selling for a loss. But don't tell that to the big brains on Reddit who think Nvidia owes them previous gen $1600 3090 performance for $100.

Yeah I thought so as well, if they'd rather cut production then margins must be pretty slim.
Not sure what their game is. The 6950 XT is indeed better value, trounces that card and more VRAM.

Weird time to be a PC gamer.

 

[Cinco de Mayo]

it doesn't matter if they sell the 4070 at a loss. If the market does not accept the price point of 600 USD, NVIDIA should re-think their line up and pricing.

Someone should let NVIDIA know it is not 2020 anymore.

 

[VeganElduderino]

I just went from a 3060 to a 4070ti OC

 

[SolidQ]

Not bad NV

 

[Senua]

Not bad NV

 

[JRW]

I just went from a 3060 to a 3070TI

3060 12GB vs 3070 Ti 8GB ??

 

[VeganElduderino]

3060 12gb to 4070ti 12gb OC because it's a massive jump, sorry i put 3070 it is a 4070 ti OC

 

[Varteras]

"We slightly overestimated how many people wanted to spend $600 on the new mid-range GPU that broke a multi-generation streak of being better than last gen's higher end offering".

 

[Senua]

I just went from a 3060 to a 3070TI

 

[VeganElduderino]

Annyone can help me!?
Here's my set up
Ryzen 5 5600X , 4070ti 12gb OC , 16g of ram and i addded a 750watt psu , shouldn't I be able tonplay Forza horizon 5 on extreme at 4k? Same for Re4 remake? But both make my pc crash! Or it boots me out to my desktop!
Could it be my PSU!? Is 750 enough or should I go for a 1000watt?

 

[rofif]

PC gamers are so bloody stubborn. (iam a pc gamer)

People are getting caught up so much on the naming scheme. "A 4070/4080 should be $XXX!!! I ain't buying a x70 for $XXX when I've been buying a x80 for the same price! "

Forget about the name. Buy the card that fits your budget and performance goals.

But hey I'm one of the idiots who bought a 4080 so fuck me. It's an amazing card and a huge step up from my 2080 and I'm glad I didn't buy a 3000 card lol

This card is a more expensive 3080. what's here to like

 

[SlimySnake]

Not bad NV

The 2070 featured ray tracing the 1080 couldnt do and supported DLSS which was an even bigger gamechanger. That 16% actually doesnt tell the whole story.

But perfect graph otherwise. just goes to show how big of a scam this card is. Fuck these cunts.

 

[Senua]

The 2070 featured ray tracing the 1080 couldnt do and supported DLSS which was an even bigger gamechanger. That 16% actually doesnt tell the whole story.

But perfect graph otherwise. just goes to show how big of a scam this card is. Fuck these cunts.

Yet you still have people who bought and defend it here, madness I say!

 

[Bojji]

Annyone can help me!?
Here's my set up
Ryzen 5 5600X , 4070ti 12gb OC , 16g of ram and i addded a 750watt psu , shouldn't I be able tonplay Forza horizon 5 on extreme at 4k? Same for Re4 remake? But both make my pc crash! Or it boots me out to my desktop!
Could it be my PSU!? Is 750 enough or should I go for a 1000watt?

PSU should easily do it UNLESS it's some shitty brand or is dying. So what PSU do you have?

Other than that clean drivers with DDU, check GPU in 3d marks (timespy, port royal etc) to see if it's running correctly. Check GPU power connectors.

 

[Spyxos]

Annyone can help me!?
Here's my set up
Ryzen 5 5600X , 4070ti 12gb OC , 16g of ram and i addded a 750watt psu , shouldn't I be able tonplay Forza horizon 5 on extreme at 4k? Same for Re4 remake? But both make my pc crash! Or it boots me out to my desktop!
Could it be my PSU!? Is 750 enough or should I go for a 1000watt?

How do the temperatures look like Cpu/Gpu? Factory Oc or did you do it?

 

[Leonidas]

This card is a more expensive 3080. what's here to like

Power efficiency and DLSS3.

3080 was a 320w card. I'll never dump 320 watts of GPU heat in my room.
4070 is a 200w card.
4070 also has 2 GB more VRAM when compared to the pipe dream bot snatched 2020 $699 MSRP 3080.
3080 is a bad choice vs. 4070 when given the option today.

 

[Spyxos]

Power efficiency and DLSS3.

3080 was a 320w card. I'll never dump 320 watts of GPU heat in my room.
4070 is a 200w card.
4070 also has 2 GB more VRAM when compared to the pipe dream bot snatched 2020 $699 MSRP 3080.

In the long run, dlss3 will not save the card either. It's too slow for that.

 

[VeganElduderino]

How do the temperatures look like Cpu/Gpu? Factory Oc or did you do it?

PSU should easily do it UNLESS it's some shitty brand or is dying. So what PSU do you have?

Other than that clean drivers with DDU, check GPU in 3d marks (timespy, port royal etc) to see if it's running correctly. Check GPU power connectors.

My PSU is a thermaltake smart BX1 750w
The temparatures for the cpu right now is around 56c and gpu 42c

 

[VeganElduderino]

How do the temperatures look like Cpu/Gpu? Factory Oc or did you do it?

Factory OC