The problem they have with that is by allowing someone else to cater to the customers you don't care about anymore, you open yourself up to disruption.GPUs only account for 11% of their revenue. It makes sense from a business standpoint to phase it out.
NVIDIA to reduce RTX 50 series production by about 25% & prioritize AI GPUs instead
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
No doubt that when the AI bubble collapses that nvidia will need gamers as a fall back.
Right now they are so much in IDGAF mode that I dont think they care.
Its like you are having such a good orgasm that you forget to pull out and you made a baby.
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Unknown Soldier
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Gaming revenue is up 42% YoY, why would they give up a free +11% to revenue. They have no meaningful competitors in the spaceGPUs only account for 11% of their revenue. It makes sense from a business standpoint to phase it out.
I get that most people don't understand business but when you own 80-90% of the market, you have no real competition, and it's basically free money, why would you just throw it all away? You wouldn't is the answer. So Nvidia isn't going to leave gaming despite the desperate wet dreams of AMD fans. But Nvidia tends to allocate their wafer allocations by anticipation of demand. If they feel that the initial launch demand for RTX 50 series is mostly satisfied, they will not make extra GPU's to sit on shelves, they will reallocate wafer capacity back to AI
bbeach123
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Switch 2 using old rtx3000s samsung foundry , so its not affected .
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peish
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drivers are getting better, i am not sure what happened this round? I can guess they are doing some housekeeping on the legacy driver stacks, to prepare for a future with more AI driven designs. But it is getting better.
The 12vhpwr failure is catastrophic but incidences are not that widespread. It is also used in Nvidia workstation standalone cards. But i think this has less to do about not caring for gamers. Their engineering team chose poorly to cheap out on more safety measures like splitting the power plane loads and do monitoring.
The rest has to do with modern TSMC manufacturing. Blackwell is a good AI refresh of Ada, 5080 is more efficient than 4080. Nvidia manages to squeeze 30%+ outta the 5090 over 4090. GDDR7 is massive for titles that uses bandwidth, there are some games stock 5080 performing close to stock 4090!
Supply/price is getting stable in regions outside US. This rumor is talking about China though.
Knightime_X
Member
Honestly, I should invest in ai.
That shit is going to go nuclear and I can live the rest of my days a billionaire.
That shit is going to go nuclear and I can live the rest of my days a billionaire.
sendit
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Majukun
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i think it's more that they believe that they will sell no matter what, so even if they do not meet demand (and so the price will rise), they will not lose their dominant position on the market.
and they might be right
PeteBull
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PS6 will launch holidays 2028 latest with 24gigs of vram minimum, even 60xx series of cards which most likely we gonna see before ps6 will have 6060 with at least 12gigs of vram, ofc it will cost 450$+ streetprice(fake msrp doesnt matter) but thats another story
8gigs of vram on a card isnt a problem as long as its priced accordingly, aka 200usd or less streetprice, remember we had 8gigs of vram ps4 launched in holidays 2013 and few months later 750ti with only 2gigs of vram launched, and every1 loved that card, key factor is- it performed similar to ps4's gpu(which was 400$/€) but with actual msrp and streetprice of 150usd, aka 2,5x cheaper from the console
Currently if we had 8gigs 9060xt streetprice for 200 usd it would get praise too, ofc it will be much more expensive coz even its 8gigs model has official msrp of 300$ and who really knows actual streeprice, amd has terrible record this gen.
Again compare that shit to current gen console, since thats a benchmark, ps5 digital is 450 but lets be generous and do like for like aka last gen ps4 with discdrive was 400, now ps5 with discdrive is 500 too, so 2,5x cheaper card can have much lower vram, but keyfactor is- it has to be much cheaper- 200usd aka exactly that 2,5x lower price.
TLDR: There are no bad gpu's, just badly priced ones. Even that awful rtx 5060 that gets decimated in any non sponsored(famous ngreedia "preview" program FTL) review would be solid gpu with 200usd streetprice instead of current 300$. Yes, budget concious customers which are tens of milions around the world(i know what im talking about, im polish, tons of ppl buy cheap/lowend gpu's here, always did) will gladly buy those weak small vram pool gpu's as long as those are cheap af, same way ps2 sold from 100m to 160m units after ps3 launch, most of those late in the lifecycle units were sold outside of rich countries at 99$ or close to that
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Hudo
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If you're selling a 8gb VRAM card in 2030, it should be priced at $100 maximum (even that might be too much, tbh). At a certain point, technology needs to move on.PS6 will launch holidays 2028 latest with 24gigs of vram minimum, even 60xx series of cards which most likely we gonna see before ps6 will have 6060 with at least 12gigs of vram, ofc it will cost 450$+ streetprice(fake msrp doesnt matter) but thats another story
8gigs of vram on a card isnt a problem as long as its priced accordingly, aka 200usd or less streetprice, remember we had 8gigs of vram ps4 launched in holidays 2013 and few months later 750ti with only 2gigs of vram launched, and every1 loved that card, key factor is- it performed similar to ps4's gpu(which was 400$/€) but with actual msrp and streetprice of 150usd, aka 2,5x cheaper from the console
Currently if we had 8gigs 9060xt streetprice for 200 usd it would get praise too, ofc it will be much more expensive coz even its 8gigs model has official msrp of 300$ and who really knows actual streeprice, amd has terrible record this gen.
Again compare that shit to current gen console, since thats a benchmark, ps5 digital is 450 but lets be generous and do like for like aka last gen ps4 with discdrive was 400, now ps5 with discdrive is 500 too, so 2,5x cheaper card can have much lower vram, but keyfactor is- it has to be much cheaper- 200usd aka exactly that 2,5x lower price.
TLDR: There are no bad gpu's, just badly priced ones. Even that awful rtx 5060 that gets decimated in any non sponsored(famous ngreedia "preview" program FTL) review would be solid gpu with 200usd streetprice instead of current 300$. Yes, budget concious customers which are tens of milions around the world(i know what im talking about, im polish, tons of ppl buy cheap/lowend gpu's here, always did) will gladly buy those weak small vram pool gpu's as long as those are cheap af, same way ps2 sold from 100m to 160m units after ps3 launch, most of those late in the lifecycle units were sold outside of rich countries at 99$ or close to that
PeteBull
Banned
Remember that terrible card launched early 2022 for 250$ msrp
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 8 GB Specs
NVIDIA GA106, 1777 MHz, 2560 Cores, 80 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1750 MHz, 128 bit
Here on hardcore gaming forum we often dont realise how terribly uninformed/ez to scam are casual gamers/low end/entry lvl gpu buyers, and how long they keep enjoying weak hardware
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Hudo
Member
Yes. And I hate that Nvidia (and other manufacturers, including Apple, who are also selling pretty expensive laptops with just 8GB of RAM) are successful with selling shit hardware to consumers.Remember that terrible card launched early 2022 for 250$ msrp
And guess what, it still has over 3,12% userbase in april 2025 steamsurvey:NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 8 GB Specs
NVIDIA GA106, 1777 MHz, 2560 Cores, 80 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1750 MHz, 128 bitwww.techpowerup.com
Here on hardcore gaming forum we often dont realise how terribly uninformed/ez to scam are casual gamers/low end/entry lvl gpu buyers, and how long they keep enjoying weak hardware
PeteBull
Banned
As long as there is demand for those terrible products and those companies can sell them with high enough margings, they gonna shit them out till the end of time.
On a positive side with internet so widespread any consumer has at least free info on how good/bad each product is right in front of them, just the will to see/check the info out has to be there first
Connificent
Al Pachinko, Konami President
But gaming is one of the biggest industries!
VitoNotVito
Member
I wish kids were a bit more original or creative…
VitoNotVito
Member
Of course it does. Mama's basement kids will be upset though.GPUs only account for 11% of their revenue. It makes sense from a business standpoint to phase it out.
Hudo
Member
You're quite the optimist.