StereoVsn
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That's what Xi Jinping is thinking, unfortunately so for the people of Taiwan and the whole world.We must seize the means of production, comrades.
That's what Xi Jinping is thinking, unfortunately so for the people of Taiwan and the whole world.We must seize the means of production, comrades.
4090 was around 400~ to manufacturer and ship, all their margins are insane for what amounts to silicon wrapped in aluminum foil and fans.Margins on the AI cards must be even more absurd than their regular GPUs. I'm not surprised.
Jesus fucking christ....there is ALWAYS gotta be a shill in each thread. Every fucking time.This is for china market. Stocks outside US and China are getting back to normal levels. Traditional levels and not covid / mining levels
No one remembers those days? A good Nvidia launch takes around 2 quarters for stocks normalisation
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Selling Excellent, More Volume Shipped Than High-End Maxwell - Even Bigger Success Than The GeForce GTX 980 Ti and GTX 980
Reports from the industry suggest that NVIDIA is having great success with their GTX 1080 as it has sold out everywhere in the market.wccftech.com
Nvidia knows their markets, gaming revenue while its 10x less than AI, it still in the billions per quarter. Nvidia won't forget gamers.
4090 was around 400~ to manufacturer and ship, all their margins are insane for what amounts to silicon wrapped in aluminum foil and fans.
Nvidia really just needs to go B2B and sell or turn their GPU division in subsidiary.
Why does it matter though.Get ready for that 5080 Super $1500 price tag.
Also, yeah, if China invades Taiwan in a few years (more when not if) , the whole world economy will be f-d so much that gaming is going to be very low on list of concerns.
Nvidia leaving gaming won't solve anything and just make things worse. You think AMD is suddenly going to offer amazing cheap products once they have no Nvidia to compete with? Please.
Going to have to strongly disagree.AI is a massive fucking mistake that will, unfortunately, never go away.
Honestly, that'll be far more productive than using dated hardware we're used to having today.Wait until the AI agents start doing cripto mining…
5090 is not worth $ per performance price....it is just absurd price.Skip the 5000 series if you're not buying a 5090.
Feels good being a 4090 chud. Why not just alternate years? Do you really need a new model gaming or AI card every year?
AMD this gen got a huge improvement on RT too.Good, more rast performance and less AI bullshit.
No. Next gen will be all about AI and it will be very exciting.FFS, this AI craze is already worse for gaming, than the crypto boom from 5 years ago.
whats wrong with ai and crypto you hate wealth money and innovation i have become financially independent because of crypto.The one that could have a great opportunity here is Intel. If only their GPUs and drivers were good enough and if their A18 node was ready for mass production.
Then they could make a killing in the consumer market.
Another company that might take advantage is Samsung. They are behind TSMC in process nodes, but with their Fabs not being fully booked, maybe they can start selling more wafers for consumer products.
It is only a matter of time before they say goodbye to gaming completely.
GPUs only account for 11% of their revenue. It makes sense from a business standpoint to phase it out.
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It is interesting that 2 countries as small as Taiwan and Singapore have such extremely high shares.GPUs only account for 11% of their revenue. It makes sense from a business standpoint to phase it out.
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GPUs only account for 11% of their revenue. It makes sense from a business standpoint to phase it out.
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GPUs only account for 11% of their revenue. It makes sense from a business standpoint to phase it out.
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Bro, we're already there with the regular 5080...Get ready for that 5080 Super $1500 price tag.
Also, yeah, if China invades Taiwan in a few years (more when not if) , the whole world economy will be f-d so much that gaming is going to be very low on list of concerns.
just come back to console
Gaming division makes only 8.5% of their revenue. They really don't care about your feelings."We failed and so we're doubling down instead of fixing/improving our image, so fuck you gamers for not buying overpriced garbage!" - Nvidia basically.
I keep telling u guys, dont hope/wait for lower prices, 50xx generation, being huge dies/requiring big cooling has 0 potential to be reasonably prices.
If ur gpu is still good and u arent forced to upgrade till 2027/2028 simply start saving cash and prepare both physically and mentally for expensive but much faster 60xx series.
I will give u an example, 150$ entry lvl card, both msrp and actual streetprice:
Look how small die it was and how lil power it required, and it was early 2014 aka only few months after ps4 launch.
Die Size148 mm²![]()
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti Specs
NVIDIA GM107, 1085 MHz, 640 Cores, 40 TMUs, 16 ROPs, 2048 MB GDDR5, 1350 MHz, 128 bitwww.techpowerup.com
TDP: 60 W
With that those cards could be very cheap to produce, chips wise and on top it required barely any cooling- which means cooling system could be barebones/cheap- easier to have very low msrp and no need for expensive a lot over msrp price models
now lets compare it to weakest 50xx card, aka 5060:
Die Size181 mm²![]()
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Specs
NVIDIA GB206, 2497 MHz, 3840 Cores, 120 TMUs, 48 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR7, 1750 MHz, 128 bitwww.techpowerup.com
TDP: 145 W
Not that much bigger die size but 2,5x higher tdp which means it has to have much better cooling system, ofc price gonna be higher and it will have plenty nasty priced models even 100-150$ over msrp kinda like top cards back in the day had.
And guess what, we got exactly that, barely anything at or close(10% over) to msrp:
Even if we get 1,5k usd streetprice 6080 which is at 4090 lvl of performance with 20-24gigs of vram but around 350W that will be good enough to bite for tons of ppl.I dont think we are going to get a massively improved 6000 series, because die shrinks aren't there anymore and you need to send more energy through the gpu and raise the clocks to get morre performance.
This might just be the new normal of GPUs.
Yeah, it's ridiculous here in US. I am thinking Super is going to start at$1,500 at this rate.Bro, we're already there with the regular 5080...
The cheapest 5080 is $1389 at my local MC with most over $1500.
They'll be limited edition with the cut they are planning to doIt's going to be a glorious 5-10% performance increase for higher price. I can't wait.
Gaming division makes only 8.5% of their revenue. They really don't care about your feelings.