Nvidia Kepler - Geforce GTX680 Thread - Now with reviews

Where the frack are the reviews on this damn thing. Every time this gets bumped I'm hoping...

I guess it's the 22nd or the 24th or whatever at the earliest now.
 
Hazaro said:
If it's 40% faster they can charge whatever they want.

GK104 will have a dual card version coming 'soon'. GK110 should be single card.
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GK110 single? Hmmmmmm I guess I can wait seeing as the launch Z77 mobos don't seem to have thunderbolt.
 
Shai-Tan said:
midrange cards will come soon enough. top range most will spend is between $200-$300... $350 is like high end for most
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More times than not, the that level of mid range doesn't come out at launch anyway. Why anyone expects this release to be any different is beyond me, other than the fact that this is rumored to be the mid range card that just happened to pass muster enough for Nvidia to go up against AMD's high end.
 
KePoW said:
Are you even trying to be realistic?
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A single 580 generally already hits thats benchmark doesn't it? This is a new architecture, a new process, and a model line beyond even that, doesn't seem unrealistic to expect that level of performance--certainly within $300.
 
zomgbbqftw said:
7970. Rumours say it is up to 40% faster than 7970 in some games, though not all.
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If that's about GK104/GTX680 then no, it'll be closer to ~10% faster than 7970 on average most probably.
If that's about GK110 then no solid info exist right now but I'd bet that it'll be much faster than just +40% to 7970.

Shai-Tan said:
midrange cards will come soon enough. top range most will spend is between $200-$300... $350 is like high end for most
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Yeah, but it doesn't look like NV's new mid range offerings will be any better than AMD's which aren't good in perf/$ at all.
 
Reallink said:
A single 580 generally already hits thats benchmark doesn't it? This is a new architecture, a new process, and a model line beyond even that, doesn't seem unrealistic to expect that level of performance--certainly within $300.
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580 is 2-3x the 460? what the ..
 
Wazzim said:
Kind of true but I really wanted to jump from my mid range 460 to some next-gen 570 equivalent (mainly for the better power consumption). 570 still goes for €250 used, not that great considering that 580s are being sold for €300.
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In US you can buy used 6950 2GB's for <$200. That's not bad.
Reallink said:
A single 580 generally already hits thats benchmark doesn't it? This is a new architecture, a new process, and a model line beyond even that, doesn't seem unrealistic to expect that level of performance--certainly within $300.
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I think a 580 is about 2x a 460 isn't it?

That's what I was expecting. A lot of time milking rebranded GPUs, new arch, new process.
NOPE. SAME SHIT. I understand as mobile is the focus with lowered power, but give us a bone or something. Can't it just use 40W more and be 25% faster :(
Make it an enthusiast SKU or something.
 
With the reviews of Ivy Bridge come out at the pathetic GPU market at the moment I'm half tempted to just keep my Q6600/4870 until the end of the year or until some of these companies start to get their shit together. This pricing is laughable. If I do end up upgrading I already know it's going to be an older generation card because these new ones are a joke on both sides.

sk3tch said:
It's all about the upcoming MSI Lightning 7970!

Pure sex...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBwDvhnaUzA
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Just watching that should embarass you.
 
Shambles said:
With the reviews of Ivy Bridge come out at the pathetic GPU market at the moment I'm half tempted to just keep my Q6600/4870 until the end of the year or until some of these companies start to get their shit together. This pricing is laughable. If I do end up upgrading I already know it's going to be an older generation card because these new ones are a joke on both sides.
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I'd consider a 6870 to be an upgrade that's well worth it.
 
artist said:
580 is 2-3x the 460? what the ..
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From what few reviews I followed, yes, I believe a 580 was around 2x. Not really sure how drivers or the more recent exotically cooled samples have effected it, but I'd imagine it wound up beyond even that.
 
First
Mobile
Kepler review is out!

In addition, while we are able to share with you the performance of the GeForce GT 640M, we’re not able to dive too deeply into the architecture because some information is still under NDA. At this time we’re only able to talk about the GeForce GT 640M as it relates to this laptop.

Kepler For Laptops - What We Can Say

Editor's Note: Yes, this is the same Kepler architecture that you will soon find in discrete graphics cards as well and is the first GPU from NVIDIA built on the TSMC 28nm process technology. We are going to have to wait to give any of the details of the new architecture a little longer but since this notebook is already on sale in Asia, we were given the go ahead to publish this performance overview. Enjoy!

Nvidia made it very clear that performance per watt was their primary concern during the design of the Kepler architecture. In a way, this seems obvious - this area is important for any new processor. But the focus on power consumption is telling. Nvidia was burned by its Fermi architecture because AMD’s components were able to provide similar performance with much lower power consumption. The green team didn’t want to see that happen again.

The performance numbers thrown out by Nvidia are aggressive. The company claims that its new GT 640M will be able to provide a playable experience at 1366x768 with high detail settings in all of the most demanding titles released last year. This means titles like Battlefield 3, Skyrim and Batman: Arkham City. All of these should run at 30 FPS or better on a GT 640M.

The part in our Acer Aspire review unit came paired with 1GB of DDR3 memory. The GPU clock is 625 MHz , the Memory clock is 900 MHz and the Shader clock is 1250 MHz. The GPU clock and Shader clock are actually down a fair bit in comparison to the GT 540M, and in addition to that, the amount of memory available is also a bit conservative.

You might be wondering how this new part can offer decent performance with relatively low clock speeds and modest memory. Part of the answer is in the architecture. Kepler is all new, and while the older GT 540M contained just 96 CUDA cores, this new part serves up 384.

Unfortunately, this is all that we can share with you about the architecture at the moment. Until the NDA lifts fully we are only able to provide information that an end-user of this laptop could discover. Look for a deep-dive into the architecture when Ryan is able to publish his review of the new Kepler desktop part.
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They have benchmarks too. In short it equals its elder brother, GK107M is the successor to GF108M but beats out GF106M. From what I'm hearing, the GDDR5 version of the GK107M should be on par with the GF116M (560M). :o
 
artist said:
First
Mobile
Kepler review is out!



They have benchmarks too. In short it equals its elder brother, GK107M is the successor to GF108M but beats out GF106M. From what I'm hearing, the GDDR5 version of the GK107M should be on par with the GF116M (560M). :o
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I want it I want it I want it.

Actually, something like a 650/660M in a laptop would be ideal.

Also, as usual, the "finally competitive" Intel GPU just became "barely good enough".
 
Xyber said:
Use Chrome to translate it. It says the same thing as the text on Engadget though, so I don't know why you would want a translation.
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On iPad and not near a desktop. Just wanted to see if Engadget skipped over the text and just posted info from the table.
 
scogoth said:
On iPad and not near a desktop. Just wanted to see if Engadget skipped over the text and just posted info from the table.
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Alright, I can post the translation here then.

[The PConline Information] distance Kepler release draws near, the major forum site have broke the news to everyone named in the guess, guess frequency, guess the size, all these comments everywhere, in the end the letter who is good? Of course, is the letter of official information. Here is our PConline evaluation room exclusive exposure for all official Kepler specifications table, core frequency, memory configuration, CUDA cores and other important parameters at a glance, the victory over the HD7970 should be no suspense!

The table above is by NVIDIA's official channels, and credibility than the gossip! From here we can see that its frequency is set to 1006/6000MHz (core / memory), the core can also be automatically speed up to 1058MHz , than the previous forecast of 7xxMHz, even a conservative estimate of Kepler same frequency performance and HD7970 flat The default frequency was significantly higher than the HD7970 and GTX 680 performance victory should have been non-existent doubt .

&#12288;&#12288;Terms of memory GTX 680 is quite amazing, the equivalent frequency of up to 6G, is the first graphics memory frequency can reach this level, so AMD has been proud of the memory controller to sweat! Not so sharp is the 256bit memory bandwidth relative HD7970, 2GB memory capacity is slightly lower than the HD7970, but the estimated or NVIDIA retained strength, the product may also take the memory bandwidth and capacity to make a fuss.

&#12288;&#12288;General computing, before there are rumors GTX 680 general-purpose computing power than the HD7970, and now we can determine the GTX 680 CUDA cores up to 1536 victory HD7970 should be no suspense in the

&#12288;&#12288;Click here estimated specifications, Kepler GTX, 680 performance of victory HD7970 should be no problem! And power consumption Kepler is also very satisfied, only a TDP of 195W at full load power nearly 250W HD7970 can be stressful ! Price exposure can not believe the appearance of the exposure can be questioned, but this official form of the above, it is a bunker! I believed! We PConline latest reports, please refer to the latest news about Kepler.
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Hmm, a similar performance to a 7970 at a much lower wattage requirement, that'd actually be sweet. Then I could pretty much SLI on my Corsair 750w?
 
Sethos said:
Hmm, a similar performance to a 7970 at a much lower wattage requirement, that'd actually be sweet. Then I could pretty much SLI on my Corsair 750w?
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Technically, but you should get a better PSU if you drop 1k on GPU. Think about it.
If you have a TX I'd highly recommend you upgrade.

Best way is to just buy a Kill-A-Watt for $20 and see power draw yourself.
 
Hazaro said:
Technically, but you should get a better PSU if you drop 1k on GPU. Think about it.
If you have a TX I'd highly recommend you upgrade.

Best way is to just buy a Kill-A-Watt for $20 and see power draw yourself.
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HX but basically the same. I'd rather not upgrade just for the hell of it. If two 7970s aren't even going above its limit, I doubt the Keplers would if their power requirement is like 40% less. I'd be well within the limit and should even be below or close to the 80% mark at load.

It takes ages to do cable management.
 
It's been way too quiet. =( Here's a useless article from Fud...

Fudzilla said:
GTX 680 will be hard to get
Expect it to sell out like the new iPad


Many of our industry sources are telling us that Kepler based GTX 680 desktop cards will be hard to get.

Despite quite high prices, these cards will sell out very quickly simply as they will be a better choice than similarly priced AMD cards. However, at the same time, AMD can mess up Nvidia’s launch by dropping prices and making its cards more attractive, but this is something that might happen close to GTX 600 series Kepler 28nm launch.

Partners would not be partners if they would not complain about the quantity of Kepler cards that they will get at launch and weeks to come. They all think they deserve and should get more, but they are still convinced that the new cards will sell well.

If you are after GTX 680, our advice is to look for one at launch day, scheduled for March 23 and immediately buy one. Otherwise you will probably end up waiting. The 28nm process is not at great yield levels but it is still reportedly better than the transition to 40nm a few years ago. Nvidia is also having to use a lot of capacity to service OEM deals in both notebook and desktop segment. That will swallow many of the 28nm Kepler based cards.

Nvidia lovers have not much to worry about this as notebooks get lower TDP chips, but since the 680 is close to 200W TDP this remains desktop-only card that will only end up in some high-end desktop machines.
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LINK
 
Sethos said:
HX but basically the same. I'd rather not upgrade just for the hell of it. If two 7970s aren't even going above its limit, I doubt the Keplers would if their power requirement is like 40% less. I'd be well within the limit and should even be below or close to the 80% mark at load.

It takes ages to do cable management.
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195W for 680
210W for 7970
 
Sethos said:
HX but basically the same. I'd rather not upgrade just for the hell of it. If two 7970s aren't even going above its limit, I doubt the Keplers would if their power requirement is like 40% less. I'd be well within the limit and should even be below or close to the 80% mark at load.

It takes ages to do cable management.
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I'd still take Hazaro's advice and get a Kill-A-Watt. Those things are great for computers. Want to see how large a UPS you need? Done. Want to find the point of diminishing returns when it comes to overclocking/volting and wattage? Done. Things a great tool to have for a serious PC user.

Not sure I'd really want to run a power supply close to its capacity on a regular basis. Prefer my load to be closer to 50 percent myself.

Fixed1979 said:
It's been way too quiet. =( Here's a useless article from Fud...



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Right. That's some great spin. The only way these are going to be hot and sell out is if the production issues have severely limited supply. Everybody knows the more money than sense group is a very small minority when it comes to cards. Not only have the GPU makers admitted the performance (vs enthusiasts) cards are their bread and butter, but one look at Steam survey results will show that mid-range cards have and always will rule the roost.
 
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Reliable sources indicate that NVIDIA could introduce a new anti-aliasing (AA) algorithm with its Kepler family of GPUs. There are already plenty of AA algorithms which have been introduced with recent generations of GPUs, including FXAA, which have enabled higher levels of image quality, while not being as taxing as MSAA. This leaves only one area in which a new AA algorithm can take shape: to raise the image quality bar higher, while lowering performance penalty.


http://www.techpowerup.com/162430/NVIDIA-Introducing-a-New-Anti-Aliasing-Algorithm-with-Kepler-.html
 
mercenar1e said:
Reliable sources indicate that NVIDIA could introduce a new anti-aliasing (AA) algorithm with its Kepler family of GPUs. There are already plenty of AA algorithms which have been introduced with recent generations of GPUs, including FXAA, which have enabled higher levels of image quality, while not being as taxing as MSAA. This leaves only one area in which a new AA algorithm can take shape: to raise the image quality bar higher, while lowering performance penalty.
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Nah. For actual, moving games with subpixel detail MSAA results in a much higher quality picture than any form of postprocessing.
 
So is there any card worth upgrading from an HD5850 right now that isn't going to break my wallet. I'd really like to go with an Nvidia card this next go round, but yeah, I haven't been following the graphics card market since I made my last build a couple years back.
 
It's worth waiting for the Kepler launch. This is a midrange GPU (by size - for Nvidia) that's rumored to perform like a high end card, and Nvidia could do something incredibly disruptive like launching this for $319. I doubt it, to be honest, since the Nvidia high end card is not in sight and AMD seems to be doing well enough with what is rumored to be lower performance.

I expect GK104 will launch at a reasonably high price (400+) and then drop when the high end card is released later this year, but it's worth waiting until the end of the month to find out.
 
nacire said:
So is there any card worth upgrading from an HD5850 right now that isn't going to break my wallet. I'd really like to go with an Nvidia card this next go round, but yeah, I haven't been following the graphics card market since I made my last build a couple years back.
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Not now. Maybe in a few months.
 
mhayze said:
It's worth waiting for the Kepler launch. This is a midrange GPU (by size - for Nvidia) that's rumored to perform like a high end card, and Nvidia could do something incredibly disruptive like launching this for $319. I doubt it, to be honest, since the Nvidia high end card is not in sight and AMD seems to be doing well enough with what is rumored to be lower performance.

I expect GK104 will launch at a reasonably high price (400+) and then drop when the high end card is released later this year, but it's worth waiting until the end of the month to find out.
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Pretty sure GK104 will release @ $500-550, Nvidia doesn't pull launches like the 5870 where they price to outsell. They believe their product commands a premium and so they'll price it as such, especially if it outperforms a 7970 (no matter how slight that performance edge may be.)

I'd love for GK104 to release @ $400, I'd sell my GTX 570 2.5 GB and buy it day 1 if so. As it stands, I don't mind waiting for prices to drop before I jump and I think many others are feeling the same way. Things won't get shaken up until GK110 and the 79xx refresh come out later this year, the way things are looking.
 
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Benchmarks:



3DMark11 Performance power consumption:



Cooling solution:



GPU Boost/Control Logic/Adaptive Vsync/PolyMorph Engine 2/Kepler Block Diagram:



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Card itself:

 
Fixed1979 said:
It's been way too quiet. =( Here's a useless article from Fud...



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Bullshit. The "masses" arent clamouring at the doors to buy 600 dollar high end GPUs. I'll be surprised if the availability isnt perfectly fine. and if it isnt, then Nvidia are stupid, they're launching months after their competitor, who could do anything with their price point in the meantime.
 
-SD- said:
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Thanks.

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Wow. If this is true, Kepler is looking pretty damn impressive. 7970 (or better) performance in about 800 Million less transistors and 55 less watts.

Also tells me that there's a lot of room for AMD to improve witha 89xx series.
 
McHuj said:
Wow. If this is true, Kepler is looking pretty damn impressive. 7970 (or better) performance in about 800 Million less transistors and 55 less watts.
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That is the maximum board power and not the TDP. The 7970 uses much less in gaming and other workloads: http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7850_HD_7870/images/power_peak.gif

-SD- said:
The word is that the HKEPC review is legit...
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Why wouldnt it be? They're a legit site and I've never seen them fake benches.
 
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