cash_longfellow
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If you want to see cringe, this is Nvidia's leader. The guy actually think's he's Fonzie.
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NVIDIA's dig at console and marketing is cringe
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GHG
Member
Are you saying spending $1500+ is the chad move for just a GPU? I can afford it easily but its a dumb economical move and just like consoles, PC's are not efficient from a business aspect when you can leverage the uptime on the Cloud by sharing the servertime and partition the instance on a VM. Why the hell do you think every app is getting on there with AWS or Azure or Google Cloud? Also, these boxes are bottlenecking gaming in the first place.
Also what a stupid take on a wired ethernet gigabyte connection (which of course I have) perhaps your situation is crap but as said before a 25 MB connection in a 3rd World Country can give access to games due to regional pricing. And besides if you had used the service on a higher tier, you can customize your bitrate. As per your input anything can happen serverside when you're playing your games onlinethat's if you exclusively play online games anyways you're one of those people who can see but is blind anyways. Let's end our interaction here.
You have no flex. Hold onto your box with the games that you think you own and stay there. I like how you give selective replies with no actual answers as well.
It's not about what's the "Chad move" or not. If you're happy to be railroaded down the path that the WEF in tandem with all the major corporations are paving then like I said that's your business. Let me just say there's a reason for all of this, and it's not for your benefit in the long term. The mentality shift of renting everything while owning nothing is fundamentally designed to keep people poor, and more importantly dependant (which then means they will be able to exercise control if and when necessary).
You're the one writing the paragraphs (*cough* promotions *cough*) to justify your choices, not me. Despite your best attempts I'm not interested in "flexing" what I have to you, it's embarrassing (for you) and of zero relevance in this discussion.
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Fahdis
Member
No it means that devs will be able to make the games of their desires without the limit of any processing power. At some point even PC's will be a bottleneck.
Fahdis
Member
*cues your first meme as a reply of insecurity* I don't need to say more after this reply because projection is a hell of a thing. Please cancel your electricity, internet, 5G Mobile, Console Memberships, Netflix etc. You're already dependent. I have to write sentences for a person who has to grasp the minor ideas for convenience and factuality. You should be embarrassed for yourself because now you're accusing me of exactly what you did. If you don't like Cloud gaming, fine, but don't shit on others for their choices. Remain economically poor if you want to purchase a $3500 computer, already gave you the math and if you can afford it like most of us can, its just a dumb move is my argument. Live and let live. You already own nothing, as also mentioned before.
S0ULZB0URNE
Gold Member
Still find the best looking games on a $400 console...
ToTTenTranz
Banned
I wasn't talking about audio enthusiasts. Those aren't spending just $1000 on a home theater audio setup.
I was talking about a much larger bracket of the population who spend ~$1000-2000 on a home theater audio set, be it an all-in-one 5.1, a higher-end soundbar, or discrete speakers from Klipsch, Jamo, Polk, etc.
This is probably why Nvidia feels so threatened by the consoles that they felt the need to attack the consoles, as most people simply aren't buying the RTX appendix on their PC games.
Within the last 2 months I played 4 games, which I'll order from best looking to worst looking:
1 - Horizon Forbidden West on the 10TF PS5, 4K@40FPS + VRR
2 - God of War Ragnarok on the 10TF PS5, 4K60FPS + VRR
3 - Plague Tale Requiem maxed out on my PC, 4K 60-80FPS (TAAU Quality) Freesync.
4 - Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition maxed out on my PC, 50-75FPS (FSR Quality) Freesync.
I have so much more processing power on my PC with a 12 core Zen3 5900X + 64GB RAM and Radeon 6900XT 16GB, and yet the 1st-party PS5 cross-gen games still look so much better overall, especially compared to the only game I played that has raytraced global illumination.
Even today whenever I go on reddit and see comments from people who bought the RTX4080 and 4090 most of them claim they mostly play multiplayer games without RT or leave RT turned off.
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clampzyn
Member
Pc will always be the bottleneck, just look at steam hardware survey, less than 3% owns a 3070/3080(maybe a total of 4-5% for the total of 3070/3080/3090) rest are weaker cards that people have on their hands, dont even mention the cpu, much less people upgrade their cpus vs gpus each gen
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OverHeat
« generous god »
Yep at 30 fps or lower then 4K native right?
sendit
Member
Agreed. Stupid comparison. A laptop has everything needed in the box to play a game. Whereas a traditional console does not.
cireza
Member
Hey I remember him, he was in FF XV.If you want to see cringe, this is Nvidia's leader. The guy actually think's he's Fonzie.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Mine do so…
hououinkyouma00
Member
Okay and? What's the point of this post anyway outside of a little jab at platforms you don't like?
OverHeat
« generous god »
I like to look down at the inferior thing that’s why
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
What do you expect?
They're speaking to their base.
It's the fanboys that get hard-ons for all the TLOPs wankery that are their target audience. The same goons who must shit on consoles at every possible opportunity in order to justify to themselves why their spent the equivalent of their children's tuition fees on a new PC graphics card.... lol
They're speaking to their base.
It's the fanboys that get hard-ons for all the TLOPs wankery that are their target audience. The same goons who must shit on consoles at every possible opportunity in order to justify to themselves why their spent the equivalent of their children's tuition fees on a new PC graphics card.... lol
hououinkyouma00
Member
Do you know how pathetic you sound?I like to look down at the inferior thing that’s why
S0ULZB0URNE
Gold Member
Native? Like fake 4K on PC via DLSS right?
OverHeat
« generous god »
You don’t know sarcasms right?
OverHeat
« generous god »
At higher settings and framerate then the console offering? Sure.
S0ULZB0URNE
Gold Member
You said NATIVE 4K as if not NATIVE 4K is a bad thing, yet we use DLSS on PC...
The games that the $400 console has that outshine anything on PC in their "respective categories" aren't available on PC.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Get out of my thread with your warring nonsense.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Yet…a slow ass low framerate game don’t outshine nothing it only show that the hardware was push to its limit and cannot offer a fluid experience but whatever you like buddy
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
And they're all getting ported to PC.
S0ULZB0URNE
Gold Member
That's two posts in a row trying to change goalposts, are you taking back what you said now?
The thread is about warring nonsense gtfoh!
Pretty sad that nvidia is salty enough to take jabs at consoles.
GL with that
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
It isn't. It's about NVIDIA making ridiculous claims and bad comparisons.
You come here with your "muh console is better than you" bullshit. Get lost.
OverHeat
« generous god »
At the same settings or higher I can run a game like cyberpunk at native 4K with the better framerate then console sure but do I want to…That's two posts in a row trying to change goalposts, are you taking back what you said now?
The thread is about warring nonsense gtfoh!
Pretty sad that nvidia is salty enough to take jabs at consoles.
GL with that
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
But can do much more than 4x what a console can plus portability. The price differences between consoles and PCs don't matter until consoles can do the same or more than a PC can.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Gold Member
They are attacking the consoles/warring.
And no I come here with a defense to the warring nonsense that nvidia is doing that you posted.
Not every game but you know this.
Native resolution wasn't a good arguing point.
twilo99
Member
But the consoles are always 5-8 years behind the cutting edge GPUs anyways so... nothing new here.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
so?
DeaDPo0L84
Member
I too will never understand why a PC with leading tech that does so much more than simply playing a game or watching YouTube is more expensive than a console, hmmm...
I should've told my wife to do all her schooling and coding on our PS5, would've saved a lot of money.
I should've told my wife to do all her schooling and coding on our PS5, would've saved a lot of money.
GHG
Member
Man you cloud gaming shills are all cut from the same sad cloth, it's hilarious. You came into this thread telling everyone they should rent via Nvidia's cloud service (even going as far as to highlight their $99 offering) and have since gone on to insult those of us who don't choose to go down that route (apparently I was supposed to be a "salty boy" because I've chosen to purchase my hardware instead of renting some 4080 cloud server from Nvidia at a monthly fee? Give me a break).
I've not once spent $3500 on a single computer and will never need to. The fact that you think that's how much it costs tells everyone everything they need to know. Hint: people who already own gaming hardware have the opportunity to upgrade at minimal cost every single year if they wish to do so. The same goes for ownership of anything provided you're sensible about it. But yeh, the money I've recouped (and even made in some instances) selling parts must have been my imagination because apparently I own nothing.
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bender
What time is it?
Random question but will you be my friend?
Fahdis
Member
Which then begs the question, who are these cards for anymore XD
GHG
Member
You do know its most likely that very subscription that is keeping him poor right?
MikeM
Member
Nvidia’s marketing is the issue. 4070ti claims 3x the performance of the 3090ti when its barely at 3090 levels.
500% with dlss 3 aka fake frame generator. LolThat's not really true. In heavy ray traced games a 4090 is likely way more than 5x.
I bet a PS5 can't run Portal RTX or Cyberpunk overdrive mode.
Even without Ray tracing a 4090 can be 500% faster than a PS5 (using DLSS3).
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Yep. I recently joined PC but still find console games at 60+ fps far more appealing.
GoW Ragnarok looks better than the games I have played maxed out on my 7900xt.
twilo99
Member
Well exactly, there is nothing to discuss lol
bender
What time is it?
I like to look down at the inferior thing that’s why
Your penis is very lucky then.
Fahdis
Member
Lmao, what did you buy this year? Please entertain me. And I didn't insult you, you did to me, man do you even hear yourself? Yea, "incremental upgrades" every year of $799+ now. I am also a PC gamer, giving options to be more economical and accessible doesn't make you better with you burning money on hardware. Your whole argument derives that you own nothing, but you never really did outside of the hardware you buy and sell. Let's go to PC Part picker and let's see how much a high end PC costs for newbies vs. your upgrades and that's of course buying outside of OEM build a PC sellers.
I got a upgraded for free btw. Throw more excuses at me.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
"How do you do, fellow console gamers. Come buy my inconveniently priced laptop."
Ktnx."
So out of touch with the console market huffing his own taint.
Ktnx."
So out of touch with the console market huffing his own taint.
GHG
Member
I'm not referring to the price of the subscription itself...
OverHeat
« generous god »
Last time you suck my dick you had a mouth full dont try to say otherwise
bender
What time is it?
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Nvidia wants to sell their shit. reviews and people are calling their bullshit.
if some individuals are here to cheer up Nvidia (like an adult beating up a child) that is the issue.
hououinkyouma00
Member
I hate this argument when it comes to the subject of video games, and it always gets brought up as some point about how PC is superior to other platforms. Nobody is arguing that PCs can't "do more" then PCs they are arguing that for the price you pay it isn't worth it for some people. Also, some people don't use a computer really in general. I know a ton of people that don't own (or don't use the one they one) a laptop or desktop at all because its 2023 and the majority of things can be done from a phone or tablet.
In my case games are the ONLY reason I own and would ever own a Windows PC. I use a MBP/iPad for my design and computing needs and vastly prefer MacOS over Windows. I don't have a preference over platform as all of them have their positives and negatives. People's choice is people's choice and one choice isn't "more valid" then the rest.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm proud of you for making the thread
S0ULZB0URNE
Gold Member
Last time you suck my dick you had a mouth full dont try to say otherwise
