NX will launch in March 2017 globally, won't be at E3 (focusing on Zelda instead)
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Terrell what are your thoughts on the whole situation?
You were like one of the few Gaffers that predicted the Wii was going to dominate back in the day, so I'm curious for your input.
SmoothBrain
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Huh. A lot of people were betting on a 2016 launch, but it's way too quiet.
Bon appétit!
Immmm... those publications cover Nintendo Directs and E3 Digital Events, too.
I said nothing about shame.
Further, your rebuttal undermines your own point. If Nintendo's entire business is dictated by a single person - the death of whom sets them egregiously off-course - then it has major structural problems.
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Dark Cloud
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And nobody would cover a Nintendo NX reveal event?
serenewarfare
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In NA (where the holiday cycle means the most in terms of shopping traffic) the PS2 launched in October.
vinnygambini
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Hmm c'est bon,
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MatrixMan.EXE
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To the people saying that it's okay for them to miss E3, with the potential for a blow out on PSVR, PS4K and even an Xbox 1.5 as well as tonnes of new big games, the eyes of thousands if not millions of the exact demographic Nintendo needs to sell NX to will be watching.
A Nintendo Direct isn't going to do that. This is a big mistake on their part. I don't understand how Nintendo fans have tricked themselves into downplaying E3's irrelevance, when the rest of the industry feels it's more relevant than ever. Especially Nintendo two other main competitors.
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A Nintendo Direct isn't going to do that. This is a big mistake on their part. I don't understand how Nintendo fans have tricked themselves into downplaying E3's irrelevance, when the rest of the industry feels it's more relevant than ever. Especially Nintendo two other main competitors.
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robertsan21
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I agree. Nintendo will do just fine. I am really hyped for the NX and if it launches with Zelda, I am picking one up 100%.
E3 is not the focus of our "riot".
it is jus a small part of it.
FACTS are:
- no new Wii U games (otherwise why claiming in an official PR that Zelda U will be the only playable game at E3? oooh, I can already see that Metroid Prime 4, that Diddy Kong Racing, that whatever you want Wii U game to be announced at E3 but not being playable LOL. They are gonna make you play a March '17 game, that's it. It is like last year, when they announced to be focused only on '15 games, and people complained, and others attacked the disappinted people. and we ended with the worst E3 since the "smiles on faces" debacle.)
- Zelda delayed once again.
- No new HW presented until the end of the year and introduced until March '17.
- March launch for the HW, that could mean two things: slow adoption from the market after the (possible, but doubtful) initial "boom" of sales (exactly what a Nintendo home console need to assure success and support, right?) or a very cheap home console (à la Wii or even lower). None of the two cases paint a cheering situation for nobody
- All that void, all that gap will be OFFICIALLY filled (at least in their intention) by Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem (two of their most important and iconic IPs) on mobile
These are facts, not opinions. The opinion is that these facts will lead into the irrelevancy of a Nintendo home console product, starting with the Wii U and deathly continuing with NX.
Old Gimlet Eyes
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Wii U's year round sales have been absolutely dreadful. Why not at least give NX a good start by releasing near the biggest money spending season of the year? March release is shooting themselves in the foot.
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NX better be some proper next gen level shit.
Exactly. And they said the game was almost finished long ago, so it only makes sense. And the Wii U is already embarassing with the few games it has left..
edit: I don't even have any hope left to believe what I just said tbh, and that just shows how freaking pathetic all of this is.
A few thoughts:
1) the decision to have a dedicated event for NX seems like a smart one. Unveiling it at E3 it too close to it would surely make it a less significant event, with everything else that will be showcased at the show. *If* is a revolutionary and well executed new concept, it's own show is where it should be presented. I do, however, doubt NX will indeed release in march tbh.
2) Im exited about the fact that I'm going to be playing a new zelda in a bit over a month at E3. It being the only game playable is odd, but ill reserve judgement until we know more about their E3 plans. I think something more WILL be announced for wii u. My bet is animal crossing, releasing in the fall.
3) i can't be too salty because just last week I bought what i think is my GOTY in StarFox Zero. Been waiting over a decade for a true entry on the series and live it so far. Also, Tokio Mirage Sessions, Paper Mario and the onslaught of 3ds rpgs coming seem like a fun 2016 to me. I can wait. I am though, ansious for more NX info.
1) the decision to have a dedicated event for NX seems like a smart one. Unveiling it at E3 it too close to it would surely make it a less significant event, with everything else that will be showcased at the show. *If* is a revolutionary and well executed new concept, it's own show is where it should be presented. I do, however, doubt NX will indeed release in march tbh.
2) Im exited about the fact that I'm going to be playing a new zelda in a bit over a month at E3. It being the only game playable is odd, but ill reserve judgement until we know more about their E3 plans. I think something more WILL be announced for wii u. My bet is animal crossing, releasing in the fall.
3) i can't be too salty because just last week I bought what i think is my GOTY in StarFox Zero. Been waiting over a decade for a true entry on the series and live it so far. Also, Tokio Mirage Sessions, Paper Mario and the onslaught of 3ds rpgs coming seem like a fun 2016 to me. I can wait. I am though, ansious for more NX info.
e3's starting to look over in a more general sense this year.
This just means you value 3rd party games and don't like the new direction of Nintendo software, it's fine if you stop following Nintendo at that point. They are no longer offering what you liked about them in the first place.
But the "Nintendo fans will lap it up" comments you made are not aligned with reality, implying current fans are irrational fanboys. I haven't cared about games other than Nintendo 1st party and indies for several years now, so lack of 3rd parties don't bother me at all and I also really, really, really love this gen's games they released. I've been playing Wii U almost exclusively for over a year now and I play it daily a couple of hours on average.
Like I said it's fine if you don't care for Nintendo anymore. I expect alot of people to be in that same boat when NX releases, but it's equally fine to be a fan of what they're doing now.
MrCunningham
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If Nintendo can't launch the thing weeks around a Black Friday window, then there is really not much point to release it in the Christmas season. But to answer your question, it never seemed feasible to me that Nintendo could have a line up of games ready and manufacturing in place to release the NX this year. But March is the start of Nintendo's fiscal year for 2017, so to me it always seemed like a likely release window for a new console.
Confused Cheeseburger
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#wrecked
Annoying Old Party Man
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Why do you do this? I was already depressed, now I want to cry, being a Nintendo fan has never been more depressingI don't even know why I should watch E3 this year, no NX, everything great shown for PS4 will likely run on PS4K which I won't buy, and XB1 games will be better on Win 10 which I don't want to install because of the crappy legacy games compatibility.
Dude, I've scheduled a whole trip to E3 with the main reason being the NX unveiling. Talk about depression *brohug*
Yeah, this crowded Christmas in June thing seems to be a thing of the past. Just open it for the general public already and make another gamescom out of it.
serenewarfare
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I believe March is the end of the fiscal year actually.
If they were willing to do it for the 3DS I would expect them to be willing to do it with the NX.
well the haptic feedback and the visor will be neat!
AcademicSaucer
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The WiiU has some of their best titles a decade, nitpicks nonwithstanding, so I've never understood this mentality.
While it may be a sales disaster, should that really matter to -people who like Nintendo games-? Are you ashamed to even own a WiiU because it's sold so poorly?
console sales are massively skewed towards holidays in the US. I assume it is similar in Europe & Canada.
Its either they have a VERY STRONG concept and they want their own controlled unveiling and all the spotlight, a' la Wii, or something else happened and an E3 and fall release had to be scrapped. We just don't know.
Soapbox Killer
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Well this sucks and now E3 will have less shine to it. No Treehouse Live I'm guessing, which is the best part of the show for me.
Yup.
Anyway, I'm thinking since NX will most likely *not* be revealed at an E3 show (Wii U was in 2011) neither 2016, nor 2017 (since NX will have already launched before E3 2017) that Nintendo should BLITZ Gamescom and Tokyo Game Show 2016 and then GDC 2017.
Then post-launch, keep the momentum going at E3 2017 and beyond, right into the holidays.
neurosisxeno
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It's when consumers are willing to spend the most money.
I'm not happy, personally.
It feels like a strange mixture of bad luck and business necessity. Without knowing anything about the NX at all, it's really hard to say, but people saying PS4K/Neo is going to drown out NX in its entirety perhaps don't realize how potentially underwhelming that could be for Sony. Being a mid-gen revision versus a new generational change for Nintendo makes it less clear-cut when it comes to mapping out how this all plays out.
There's just not enough data to say anything one way or the other for sure. I have an idea of how Nintendo can approach their new hardware release, but NX doesn't feel like Nintendo trying to make a smash success; it feels like Nintendo is trying to mend fences with the existing market in lieu of chasing a new one with unrepeatable results.
Opinionatedfish
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Wait.. so.. The Legend of Zelda will be the only playable game that Nintendo "presents at E3."
This probably means that it's the only new game they show that will be playable.
Any other new software shown will not be playable at E3.
That's a really awkward sentence.
It also means that the other playable items will all be titles previously presented or announced.
On another note, I guess a 2017 release date means it (NX) will probably have Final Fantasy 7 Remake and Kingdom Hearts 3 on it's release list as well? Since those aren't actually exclusives for the PS4.
This probably means that it's the only new game they show that will be playable.
Any other new software shown will not be playable at E3.
That's a really awkward sentence.
It also means that the other playable items will all be titles previously presented or announced.
On another note, I guess a 2017 release date means it (NX) will probably have Final Fantasy 7 Remake and Kingdom Hearts 3 on it's release list as well? Since those aren't actually exclusives for the PS4.
SinCityAssassin
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To be fair, I reached the acceptence stage of this shit like half an hour ago. So I might not look so worried but I was at that point. Believe me.
If Space World turns out to be a lie though I might go join an underground boxing ring to counter the rage.
If Space World turns out to be a lie though I might go join an underground boxing ring to counter the rage.
blankempathy
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If anything this just points to an event where we will be getting a fairly large info dump seeing as there will be lots of questions. Or maybe they'll just release it with barely a whimper. Logic says that its probably the former.
MrCunningham
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Whoops, so when does the new fiscal year start? April 1st?
That demographic considers Nintendo games to be for toddlers, and has for nearly twenty years. They have never been able to sell to them.
If you ask me, the NX is going to try to regain the audience the Wii had. It's really all they can hope for at this point.
All of the sites you listed covered the Nintendo Directs during E3. Each outlet has writers and sections dedicated to tech news; there's absolutely no reason why they wouldn't cover the NX reveal whenever Nintendo decides to reveal it.
Joelstinton14
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As they will todays new too.
To be honest, I'm not to sure what to think. E3 is still kind of the centrepiece of the gaming calendar for me, and many others. It gaming Christmas, but last year, Sony had 5 or 6 conferences didn't they? And it seems publishers rather do there own thing as well over the course of the year. It more flexible for them.
Yup.
Activision isn't there, EA takes a different path, Nintendo has been fiddeling around with their set-up... didn't other publishers opt out as well because of high prices?
E3 will try to change, but man, it's going to be hard.
serenewarfare
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I believe so yes.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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By releasing in March good luck with that.
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