hodayathink
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I think we've gotten pretty close to the point in society where many sacred cows are no longer sacred, and open secrets don't need to be secrets anymore.
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NY Times: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein
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I think we've gotten pretty close to the point in society where many sacred cows are no longer sacred, and open secrets don't need to be secrets anymore.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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This dude is a scumbag and deserves to be in jail. Sadly nothing will likely come of this and hell at most get a slap on the wrist.
No it doesnt, Polanski is still treated like a god and gets roaring standing ovations. Nothing will likely happen.
IggyChooChoo
Member
Not that I disagree with your general point, but I was under the impression that Polanski can't visit America anymore because he's worried he'll be arrested at the airport.
entremet
Member
He's saying that Weinstein will still be embraced by the Hollywood elite instead of shunned like a Mel Gibson. Although even Mel is getting some work again.
He had a financial interest in keeping Polanski's name in good graces, as The Weinstein Company picked up the theatrical rights to Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired, the big documentary about the rape case that tried to paint the trial up as a complete farce. The LA county DA at the time even went as far as to correct Harvey (and a lot of Polanski's supporters) on the matter as yes, Roman Polanski did in fact commit and admitted to committing a crime.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
What does that have to do with anything? Because the government wants to jail a convicted child molester doesnt mean he still doesnt get work and overwhelming praise and adulation from Hollywood.
FullMetalx117
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Not defending Weinstein whatsoever but aren't most prominent figures in hollywood players, thinking they have it all? Like it's basically a bubble of Mad Men in the 1950s-1960s where people sleep with everyone and it's not abnormal. At least that's how it's portrayed, celebrity culture. One of my favorite actors is Leo and I honestly won't be surprised if a story about him pops up in the future. He's with a new model every other week.
Leo is certainly the playboy type, but until something serious comes out that wades into darker waters, wanting temporary companionship is hardly a crime for an avowed bachelor. What Harvey has been doing here is far beyond the pale.
DiscoJer
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There is a difference between being a "player" and using your position to give or deny jobs as a stick to coerce women into doing sexual things for you
That the whole casting couch thing is seemingly accepted (and has been for probably a 100 years) is really kinda insane. It's not unlike how prison rape is accepted (or even considered a gag). Yet both things are absolutely monstrous and should be stopped.
MotionBlue
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It feels like this is being overshadowed. Dude belongs in prison. You can't make 30 years of sexual abuse disappear by bringing up the NRA.
Dash_Riprock
Member
Now on "indefinite leave."
Looks like he's gonna try and pull a Bill O'Riley and just leave quietly and hope everything blows over.
Looks like he's gonna try and pull a Bill O'Riley and just leave quietly and hope everything blows over.
Puppet Shadow
Member
Oh ya, people his age that have a lifelong pattern of this shit can just look in a mirror, take a deep breath and change their core personality. Totally.
Gloria Allred called out her daughter, Lisa Bloom, for defending Weinstein. Everything about Bloom's various defenses of Weinstein and her involvement is super hypocritical.
Kim Masters was on KCRW (SoCal NPR affiliate) last night discussing the story.
Among the details, she notes she asked Weinstein about sexual harassment nearly 20 years ago in an off-the-record interview and says his response was "not a shocked denial."
Masters said she knows of at least one other instance of Bloom defending someone alleged to have sexual misconduct. Sounded like this wasn't public knowledge.
She also backed up the comments found in the Huffington Post article above that he would ensure staff cleared out in various situations. She noted that someone at Miramax had told her that actresses would demand other executives or representatives come along, they'd all be driving to a location and Weinstein would pull over and demand the others get out.
Kim Masters was on KCRW (SoCal NPR affiliate) last night discussing the story.
Among the details, she notes she asked Weinstein about sexual harassment nearly 20 years ago in an off-the-record interview and says his response was "not a shocked denial."
Masters said she knows of at least one other instance of Bloom defending someone alleged to have sexual misconduct. Sounded like this wasn't public knowledge.
She also backed up the comments found in the Huffington Post article above that he would ensure staff cleared out in various situations. She noted that someone at Miramax had told her that actresses would demand other executives or representatives come along, they'd all be driving to a location and Weinstein would pull over and demand the others get out.
That's been this entire day. Spicer has been throwing a shit-fit on Twitter about it.
Why people have to play team sports with this shit is beyond me. All these sexual predators deserve to be thrown away, ostracized forever, and left with nothing.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Now there's a story being floated that Bob Weinstein instigated the Times expose so he could seize power over the company.
BotoxAgent
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lol yeah....except weinstein doesnt actually hold public office, and democrats have been quick to denounce these types of actions. Trump and the GOP on the other hand....
It is horrific either way. It is not less horrible because someone else is also doing it.
It is not suddenly normal because whatever political party also engages in it.
If you want to throw anyone under the bus, throw Kevin Smith.
Dude paints himself as a nice guy, but he was a key guy in Miramax back in the day and even after splitting badly from them didn't say anything regarding this.
It looks like you could put several people under the microscope. Robert Rodr....
Anyway, Hollywood has a problem. And it is bigger then fat ass molestor Weinstien.
If the problem is widespread enough among the top guys at the major studios then doing anything could be a career ender. It's not an excuse, but not everyone would be willing to throw their career away like that. It'd be the sort of situation where unless everyone went down all at once your entire career would be dead, especially if none of the victims were willing to come forward.
I ain't forgiving anyone, just pointing out the logic on why they wouldn't come forward about it.
skullmuffins
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Well duh.
The point is not that what Weinstein did is OK because some Republicans are also bad, but that any Republicans using this to smear Dems while at the same time supporting people like, you know, the President, are full of shit. (cc: Sean Spicer, Don Jr., etc.)
And how many of these dudes were out there demanding that Republicans condemn the fact that Roger Ailes was doing debate prep with Trump after he was forced out of Fox for sexual harassment?
And tbh I haven't been looking very hard, but are there even many liberals defending Weinstein? Silence, yes. That's bad in its own way, but I don't know who is making excuses in the vein of "locker room talk" besides his lawyers.
Sexual harassment and assault are bad, period. If there's a group this reflects poorly on, it's Hollywood, not Democrats. People trying to turn it into some partisan thing are grasping wildly for some 'both sides' takes.
You are taking my exact point, and repeating it. Only you are doing it in such a way as if I am defending Republicans who do the same thing which I am not.
It is always gross and disgusting, and all should be held accountable.
Pointing out hypocrisy with those who are supporting Democrats is not a defense of those that do do the same for Republicans. It is an overall condemnation.
It is bad no matter what your political affiliation is.
Oh there's logic for not doing it, but I couldn't live with myself if I knew that shit and played silent bob over it.
Too late. Worst of both words for her honestly.
Feminists know she's a sell out now.
Prospective clients know she'll bail when things get too hard.
The Illiterati
Member
This is bullshit. Some of them probably knew something, heck some of them are probably scumbags, but you paint with a pretty big brush. It's pointless to throw every single star/director/producer under the bus since you'd be accusing half the industry.
skullmuffins
Banned
She really wanted to ruin her brand, huh
And yet, her reputation is still ruined. Lose-lose for her.
Hope this dude goes to prison, but it'll probably never happen.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
This was just a bizarre decision to take on this case.
Widdle Puppy
Banned
Revolting
Should have his oscars stripped if he has any
Should have his oscars stripped if he has any
And_Gignac
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Good!