Electric Eye
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He prides himself as being a smart businessman that would fix Americas economy like he fixes his businesses yet he's a apparently terrible at running businesses and knows it because he won't release his current tax filings.
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NYT gets Trump's 1995 tax documents, might have avoided taxes for two decades
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He prides himself as being a smart businessman that would fix Americas economy like he fixes his businesses yet he's a apparently terrible at running businesses and knows it because he won't release his current tax filings.
SoundofSilence
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Swing and a miss.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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Wow, dat October surprise!!
Mighty Chin
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The only way these two things could be equal is if each email was worth like $30,533.00. And that's still low balling it compared to how much he actually lost. Sad!
spiderman123
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Some of the greatest business men we quote and adore in this world had shitty times. Listen I'm not a fan of Trump and as I said a carried forward loss isn't a unique circumstance. If he repeatedly uses it then that is a different story.
Add: I also agree about him releasing his tax returns.
Good point 🤔 I'm glad this isn't contrary to why he says he would make a good president.
TheLaughingStock
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People pay plenty of taxes regardless of federal income taxes. People who don't pay federal income taxes still support the US.
FrenchMovieTheme
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keep movin' them goalposts!
Electric Eye
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I think you still don't get it, those other people you mention are public about their failures and struggles an don't hide it and as you see its not an issue. Trump on the other hand keeps repeating he is so successful and has never failed and that means he is qualified to be president and would fix everything because as you can see he is so great at business. He's being called out on his BS, BS he created by not owing up to reality and instead trying to deceive a country into making him president. Fuck the fact that he's a shitty businessman he's an even worst pathological liar and untrustworthy.
And even still, 1 billion in losses for a private company is a notably big loss.
That argument is reserved for people who are poor. Applying that to alleged billionaires does not work for a number of reasons.
sazzy
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Clinton also did nothing illegal re: Benghazi, Emails; look how that turned out.
JadedWriter
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The other end of that hole probably leads you to Venus. On topic, fuck this tax cheating motherfucker.
Electric Eye
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oh god I hope so.
The idea that people think he's poor will eat at him like an acid bath. He's in hell. Almost feel sorry for him.
Officerrob
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Worked out well for Romney...
Basileus777
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"Conservative circles" aren't the voter base deciding this election.
Electric Eye
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Wow I hadn't though about it that way, he's probably looking into ways to gold plate his skin as we speak just to prove how rich he really is.
Blue collar people paying 35% state and federal tax after working 60 hours a week might be thinking about this harder than you give them credit for.
The campaign probably ran out and got one of those illegal cell phone jammers after the last one and flipped the switch the second this story broke.
Can you show me where a 1 BILLION Dollar *pinky finger* loss is celebrated among conservative circles? You know, the same conservative circles that shame social programs that take money from Real Tax-Paying Americans®.
I'm sorry, there's just no way to positively spin this. This is going to gut him among everyone but his most staunch supporters.
The idea that Trump is a smarmy, over-the-top, give no fucks sleazy businessman is not a new idea to the people supporting him. You think this is enough to turn things?
That wealthy people use tax avoidance schemes isn't a new idea to anyone.
Donald Trump has several bankrupticies and yet is still fetishized as some sort of genius businessman.
FrenchMovieTheme
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this isn't about legal/illegal activities though
Right but do you think people that pay income tax are ONLY paying income tax? Is that what's going on here? You think taxes are either/or?
Who cares about his supporters?
No, but he's becoming you
BreezyLimbo
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"Trump lost a billion dollars"
There is no spinning that. Whether it's a good thing, a legal thing, or whatever, the fact is
"Trump lost a billion dollars."
There is no spinning that. Whether it's a good thing, a legal thing, or whatever, the fact is
"Trump lost a billion dollars."
Electric Eye
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That bunch was never going to vote any other way what it turns off is the idiot, I mean "swing" voters still on the fence.
Basileus777
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Trump is already losing and his numbers take a hit with every scandal, so yes? Focus groups hated his response to the tax stuff in the debate, this is an area of weakness for him.
Yeah, but those people think it makes him clever and a winner. This says otherwise.
Not that I think they'll turn on him because of this. They'll still convince themselves he's awesome.
TheLaughingStock
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It's reserved for everybody not paying federal income taxes. And like I said, the US spends more than it taxes over time. People still make contributions to the US in support of schools, veterans, and so on without paying federal income taxes.
Bam Bam Baklava
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There is a shocking lack of the word optics in this thread. Why isn't anybody thinking about the optics?
LookAtMeGo
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He got a small load from his dad though. And he did great things with it, he really did. All great things.
Electric Eye
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Wait until everyone starts to calculate that amount with inflation. lol Sunday morning is going to be something else.
There's a difference between paying tax and being a net taxpayer.
This typo(?) is horrifying
PlayALLtheGames
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Oh his fans will spin it. Won't even be a challenge.
"You have to take risks and sometimes you lose a billion is nothing for him."
"nothing compared to the billions of taxpayer dollars obummer gives to gay muslim abortion spiders as ransom payments every year"
LookAtMeGo
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Holy shit lol whoops
Optics only matter when it's the Clinton campaign. Didn't you get the memo?
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