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NYT now has the email to Donald Trump Jr. offering Russian aid to "incriminate"

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Chumley

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The problem is that the media and the left has been painting him as the devil for like 2 years. It's been constant. The world was supposed to end on inauguration day if they were right.

6 months later and the world hasn't ended. We're still here. And the left and the media are still at it.

To put it simply, it's the modern version of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. So yeah, these people are done and will not believe you unless something catastrophic happens.

This post is full of a suffocating amount of bullshit. You are utterly clueless.
 

rambis

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What I meant was about what this "means", because insofar as I see ive read so many "This is the moment" things and nothing has happened that I am genuinely becoming numb to any new information that came out. If its something id like someone who is well educated and sound in these things to tell me its something, why its something and what the impact will be, if its nothing id like the same, as such I expect it to be another "Ill forget about it in a week when the hyperbole has died down."

People have short attention spans. This won't be resolved in a week. That doesn't make this any less of a landmark moment. You seem to basing your thoughts of what will happen to this by media reaction, or something. I would implore everybody to educate themselves and form their own opinion.
 
It's amazing how people trashed Clinton during the debates for pointing out how Russia had completely infiltrated the election and people wanted to instead whine about nothing emails.
 
What I meant was about what this "means", because insofar as I see ive read so many "This is the moment" things and nothing has happened that I am genuinely becoming numb to any new information that came out. If its something id like someone who is well educated and sound in these things to tell me its something, why its something and what the impact will be, if its nothing id like the same, as such I expect it to be another "Ill forget about it in a week when the hyperbole has died down."

Stop taking gaf posts as right? Watergate took literal years. Muller is going to be happy about all of this.
 

gcubed

Member
This is still a rope a dope by the NYT.

They are waiting for Trump to say something and then drop proof he knew too.
 
The best part of this news is that if Don Jr. was so careless with handling sensitive information like this through email, what other hard evidence might be out there that we don't know about, but Mueller already has?
 
This is still a rope a dope by the NYT.

They are waiting for Trump to say something and then drop proof he knew too.

In the future:

Donald Trump tweet: "My son is an idiot and this had nothing to do with me."

NY Times: "BREAKING NEWS -- in newly uncovered email, Donald Trump Jr. responds to Russian lawyer 'My dad is coming, too.'"
 

Lunar15

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It's not really a smoking gun, but it's another piece of the puzzle and another confirmation that Trump's team did, in-fact, know that Russia was actively trying to aid their campaign.

If, in the future case against Trump, they try to deny knowing about any efforts to aid the campaign, they can be hit with this information.
 
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Is this satire?

I have no idea what this means?
 

jay

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We already have republicans on camera saying "I would have done the same".

This is going to be the defense they settle on. Everyone does this, it would be stupid not to do this. All Democrats have always done this and are doing it right now.
 

rambis

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This just seems so weird. It's not surprising that Jr. is stupid, but why would the Russians pick such an incompetent messenger? The guy literally stated multiple times in what seems like intentionally overly-direct language that it was information from the Russian government to aid the campaign? No coded language, no hinting, nothing? It reads as though he went to extra lengths to make sure there was incriminating evidence.

So odd.

Russia has already won this battle a while ago. The sanctions already in place are as big of a response they will see from the US. Meanwhile they have completely destabilized our federal government.
 
This is still a rope a dope by the NYT.

They are waiting for Trump to say something and then drop proof he knew too.

/insert you activated my trap card gif

anyway, it's really astounding how stupid this family is. For those who've watched Code Geass, it'd be really fucking scary if Trump had the same intelligence as Lelouch(thank god he doesn't)
 

Gutek

Member
Now I get where you're coming from. With this one post.

Just because the Republicans are party over people, you think all of these threads are nothing burgers. Which is true until proven otherwise. But I thought you were from the pov that the threads were just non issues to begin with. -- something like that?

No. I think Trump is scum and he has clearly engaged in unethical behavior. Behavior that should be illegal. If anything, I have lost all confidence in our institutions. Starting with the electoral college, that votes for a man that advocates for war crimes, incited violence, and spoke out against the constitution. A man like that should have never been president in the first place.

It's our institutions that are failing us
 

Brandon F

Well congratulations! You got yourself caught!
It's amazing how people trashed Clinton during the debates for pointing out how Russia had completely infiltrated the election and people wanted to instead whine about nothing emails.

The power of the GOP's marketing machine and the imbecilic public that eats it up.
 

trembli0s

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That's what it feels like. Putin isn't stupid. Seems like he wanted to just cause chaos, not to actually get away with any kind of conspiracy.

Putin has himself bullet proof at this point. If I am Putin I sit on whatever incriminating Hillary information I have until 2018 or 2020 elections. Then you throw that gas can onto the scene and watch the country tear itself apart in crippling political infighting.
 

Red

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No. I think Trump is scum and he has clearly engaged in unethical behavior. Behavior that should be illegal. If anything, I have lost all confidence in our institutions. Starting with the electoral college, that votes for a man that advocates for war crimes, incited violence, and spoke out against the constitution. A man like that should have never been president in the first place.

It's our institutions that are failing us
Guess what? That was the goal of the folks who created this mess.
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
It's not really a smoking gun, but it's another piece of the puzzle and another confirmation that Trump's team did, in-fact, know that Russia was actively trying to aid their campaign.

This, in and of itself, is just such a monumental thing.
 

mnz

Unconfirmed Member

Here's that 4th page some people missed.

It's truly incredible. It mentions directly that the Russian government is behind it and that they want to meet. Also who and when and why. And how sensitive it is.

I'm not sure I understand the current strategy here. Why would you tweet this out? Has anything like this ever happened?

I'm in total awe right now.
 

rambis

Banned
It's not really a smoking gun, but it's another piece of the puzzle and another confirmation that Trump's team did, in-fact, know that Russia was actively trying to aid their campaign.

If, in the future case against Trump, they try to deny knowing about any efforts to aid the campaign, they can be hit with this information.

How is it not a smoking gun? This is as about as clear evidence of criminal intent I have ever seen from an unresolved case.
 

Red

Member
Here's that 4th page some people missed.

It's truly incredible. It mentions directly that the Russian government is behind it and that they want to meet. And he does.

I'm not sure I understand the current strategy here. Why would you tweet this out? Has anything like this ever happened?

I'm in awe right now.
My guess is solely to spite the NYT by releasing before their story ran. At the expense of any possible retreat. Pure spite and an attempt to get ahead of the story.
 

TheOfficeMut

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The problem is that the media and the left has been painting him as the devil for like 2 years. It's been constant. The world was supposed to end on inauguration day if they were right.

6 months later and the world hasn't ended. We're still here. And the left and the media are still at it.

To put it simply, it's the modern version of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. So yeah, these people are done and will not believe you unless something catastrophic happens.

Don't speak on adult issues if you have no clue what's going on in the world.
 
Fox spin I'm seeing right now

"We always talk about how Trump thinks like a businessman... This is where the business background hurts, because from a business perspective you would take the meeting."
 
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