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NYT now has the email to Donald Trump Jr. offering Russian aid to "incriminate"
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NullPointer
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Just on MSNBC, that the Trump Tower project in Russia wasn't dropped because Trump ran for president, but because of an economic downturn caused by sanctions placed upon Russia by the US. That's according to an interview earlier this year with Rob Goldstone.
Didn't catch which publication, but will try to hunt down a link.
Didn't catch which publication, but will try to hunt down a link.
EDIT: I was wrong.
That timeline is a little off.
June 3rd, 2016: Rob Goldstone emails Donald Trump Jr. about meeting with ”Russian government lawyer"
June 7th, 2016: Donald Trump gives speech in which he promises a major speech about Hillary Clinton's crimes on June 13th
June 9th, 2016: Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort meet with Natalia Veselnitskaya (”Russian government lawyer")
Source: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/look-at-the-timeline
That timeline is a little off.
June 3rd, 2016: Rob Goldstone emails Donald Trump Jr. about meeting with ”Russian government lawyer"
June 7th, 2016: Donald Trump gives speech in which he promises a major speech about Hillary Clinton's crimes on June 13th
June 9th, 2016: Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort meet with Natalia Veselnitskaya (”Russian government lawyer")
Source: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/look-at-the-timeline
From the tweet:
According to the emails Donny Jr released, that's accurate. He did indeed confirm a meeting at 5:16 PM on June 7th. The 3rd is just when the email chain started.
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413
Oh dang! Thanks for the clarification. The timeline is even crazier than I thought.
I do wonder if the US will go all the way to nail Trump and friends or try to avoid airing their dirty laundry. It's something the establishment usually does to save face. That's my fear of Trump getting off the hook, if he really is that dodgy, could the US government take that on the chin or would they like it to go away quietly. You could say not ripping Trump and co to shreds makes them look worse but people forget stuff they don't know. Can the US look at itself after Trump and think they went all the way and threw the book at him or did they brush it off and let him off easy so embarrassment and the history books don't note the US democracy as a lemon?
So Donald is willing to sell off America and its allies, because we wants to build a tower in Moscow? That's vile... ... and so, so expected.
The impression I get is the IC want to nail him. I figure in a worst case scenario, the Republican party will ask him to resign in exchange for a pardon from Pence.
Mr. Giggles
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What's the game plan here from Jr.?
I'm not following
I'm not following
Probably hope nothing happens and a pardon in a worst-case scenario.
If his family and legacy is better off why would he care about what happens to everyone else?
That why I don't understand how people could be fooled by this man (baby).
plagiarize
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Take the fall. Get pardoned.
Was afraid the NYT would only release specific parts of the emails and they would look worse out of context.
BossDarkseid
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Usually I can't believe these people can be so stupid but their decisions are so illogical they are either playing 4D Chess or Tiffany's the only one with more brain cells than she has fingers.
RPGCrazied
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Oh my. I just heard Mueller got this and looking into it.
Someone is fucked.
Someone is fucked.
Beer Monkey
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Don Jr. not telling dad about a meeting he was in = I really, really don't think so.
Kush not telling dad about the meeting that he was also in = zero fucking chance in hell.
Kush not telling dad about the meeting that he was also in = zero fucking chance in hell.
Mr. Giggles
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Yeah, it always comes down to sex or money. Could be both if Russia has dirt on sex stuff.
You're assuming key players in the GOP aren't compromised too. Some of them likely have as much to lose as Trump.
He has all he needs to subpoena mail servers now.
Shadow Puppetry
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Gotta love Jr's retweets lol
plagiarize
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A great point someone made on CNN.
Do people honestly think that everyone involved in this hasn't searched through all their e-mails to find anything related to Russia from the campaign, to come forward with if indeed 'nothing' happened.
They keep claiming they forgot about it until it came up.
But RUSSIA has been headlines for months and months and months. It's been up. It's been at the forefront.
Do people honestly think that everyone involved in this hasn't searched through all their e-mails to find anything related to Russia from the campaign, to come forward with if indeed 'nothing' happened.
They keep claiming they forgot about it until it came up.
But RUSSIA has been headlines for months and months and months. It's been up. It's been at the forefront.
I bet Mueller has had it.
Or rather, it saved him the trouble from getting a warrant
Lmao even Bannon's boys getting in it.
If shes intelligent at all, far the fuck away from her creepozoid family for a change. ;-)
Or if you're someone like Sessions you conveniently "don't recall" conversations you had with Russians.
I don't see how you can't find something like this as a "thing of value." People are literally paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to dig up information like this. It's absolutely a thing of value.
Why wouldn't you take them at their words? They seem trustworthy.
plagiarize
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Conversations. Sure. You forgot. Hard to disprove.
Easily searchable e-mail databases?
When you've been asked the question more than once? When it remains in the news? You never searched through your e-mails to see if there's anything you're forgetting?
How would anyone remember something so insignificant and legal?
Yes it's pretty blatant.
Shadow Puppetry
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"I cant help what someone sends me. I read it, I responded accordingly."
Omg, he believes those chainmails if you don't respond, you'll die by midnight type.
"I'm a simple man, I see a mail, i klick respond."
Dragon Puncher
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Definitely. There's still the distinction possible that Trump Jr. posted the emails and basically admitted to having criminal intentions because the contents of the meeting is actually much worse than just discussing "russian adoptions"..
Trump made his first tweet about Clinton's 33.000 missing emails 10 minutes after the meeting was over and told his followers he had something big on Clinton the same evening. Early next week Wikileaks tweet they have gotten ahold of Clintons emails. A couple of days later they start releasing them in batches.
To me that sounds like Trump Jr + Kuskner and Manafort delivered whatever Clinton info they got from the russian lawyer directly to Trump after the meeting. He promtly tweeted about it and then probably gave his blessing to inform the russians that they should go ahead and releasing the info through Wikileaks.
plagiarize
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Did dad ever end up giving that speech? I don't remember it.
I think Tiffany and Barron will be the only kids who are relatively unscathed by this shit. She was right to stay the fuck away from the family business.
plagiarize
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Nope.
yanipheonu
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Currently they appear to be taking the strategy of running straight towards the danger by posing as 'transparent' about it (despite being caught in lies and omissions), in the hope that they can sway public opinion and keep the populace from reacting too strongly by passing it off as nothing.
On the legal side I imagine they hope to squeak by on vagueries in the law, and if all else fails then maybe a pardon.
So true and so much lol.
Shocking.
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