Seriously, conservatives do not understand nuance. On almost every single topic they literally don't understand what the left is actually arguing. They don't hear what we're saying at all. It gets flattened to the most simple soundbite and then spit back out without any context. I'm not even just talking because of their news media, which obviously doesn't help. I've talked to and debated many conservatives and there's just something very different in the way they think about things that doesn't seem to accept gray or nuanced sides in most issues.
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NYTimes: For Trump Supporters, the Real Outrage Is the Lefts Uproar Over Comey
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Servbot #42
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The one who you should wake up is you and realize that nothing will change the mind of Trump supporters, ever.
MetroidPrimeRib
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The unfair standard of doing hundreds (Literally hundreds) of things that would have tanked every other President before him.
Yet that standard still ain't enough because he WILL tank.
Yet that standard still ain't enough because he WILL tank.
TheUntamedLegend
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They get paid per post so you're just helping them.
BobTheFork
Member
Yeah, Those people 'wanted America back'
If he had campaigned on getting elected, changing the rules, and breaking the constitution to literally put himself up as president for life, they still would have supported him.
They want 1800's America back.
Tranqueris
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I never get these figures. 40 percent of the whole country yet he only managed to get 20 something percent of voters to come out for him on November 8th. Are these just people who are perpetually stuck on the "give him a chance" train? I would figure that the Republicans that hated his guts in November still hate him.
RPGCrazied
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I don't care what Trump supporters think. They can kindly go fuck themselves. I'm done with them.
Simple answer is you can't.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Yes! People who write this kind of garbage should get fired and have their degree taken from them. Who the heck writes this garbage?
They can't even use the excuse that this article is an attempt at helping people understand the other side. There's nothing to understand and that's blatantly obvious in the article.
Muppet of a Man
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See, we moderates, liberals, and progressives have tried to have adult conversations and debates centered on facts in the past, but it is now very clear that these right-wingers are using the government as a means of subjugation, exploitation, and straight up war tactics to trespass against large segments of the population. There is no longer a guise or front of having a moral high ground or trying to do the right thing.
This is literally all out war to kill the "enemy" through legislation: by imprisoning, deporting, or banning minorities; subjugating women, and culling the sick, old, and disabled.
These adamant base assholes are on a spectrum of overt Nazi to diet Nazi (a.k.a. white evangelical nationalists). All these pigs can get fucked with their indignant gaslighting fuckery.
This is literally all out war to kill the "enemy" through legislation: by imprisoning, deporting, or banning minorities; subjugating women, and culling the sick, old, and disabled.
These adamant base assholes are on a spectrum of overt Nazi to diet Nazi (a.k.a. white evangelical nationalists). All these pigs can get fucked with their indignant gaslighting fuckery.
ForsakenLotus
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Honestly I don't give a flip what they think. Professionals and politicians should, but I don't. They are a number of things none of which I would describe positively.
toddhunter
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The whole world who has to look at who they elected.
I care quite a bit how stupid they are.
Herr Schwarz
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I think republicans have always been deluded they shape it around their own delusions.
I'm not being brainwashed by "librul" media. It's pretty fucking odd for anyone who has even a slight capacity for critical thinking.
This isn't bengazi this isn't her e-mails. This is your national security adviser being an agent of a foreign power lol. and whatever else.
How many people did they have working in the bengazi hearings in contrast to the resources allocated for this scandal. a looot more.
and now you're firing Comey. They've been deluding themselves since Obama showed up, they couldn't handle the reality for 8 years.
I'm not being brainwashed by "librul" media. It's pretty fucking odd for anyone who has even a slight capacity for critical thinking.
This isn't bengazi this isn't her e-mails. This is your national security adviser being an agent of a foreign power lol. and whatever else.
How many people did they have working in the bengazi hearings in contrast to the resources allocated for this scandal. a looot more.
and now you're firing Comey. They've been deluding themselves since Obama showed up, they couldn't handle the reality for 8 years.
It's good to know what the brainwashing program is making them believe. But there's no more room for empathy for them. They are too far gone. You have to want to believe really bad to be able to continue living in such a ridiculous and evil fantasy world at this point. These people and their masters cannot be allowed to dictate the future of our country and the human race.
Lightning_Roller
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These morons ain't worth anyone's time. Fuck 'em.
Their reality is gonna snap when their orange dumbass in chief screws them over.
Their reality is gonna snap when their orange dumbass in chief screws them over.
firehawk12
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Why do people feel sorry for these people again? lol
I know the reality is that we just have to keep getting Democrats and Independents energized in all states going forward (Hillary got a massive amount of votes but those votes didn't come from the strategic areas she needed) but it is just.. mind boggling and depressing that almost half the country lives in this make-believe world and isn't even open to having a discussion. It's both stunning and horrifying.
nintendoman58
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Nah, they won't exactly get that.
polyh3dron
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They will find a way to blame The Democrat Party for both.
Hillary had it absolutely right, these people are a basket of deplorables.
Lightning_Roller
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Agreed. Conservative my black ass.
ForsakenLotus
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Vietnam/Civil Rights era. But with 24/7 News, podcasts and social media it feels just as bad I imagine.
I don't know why, but it literally feels like we are in a new type of war. From Republicans obstructing the Obama administration to refusing to have hearing for a Supreme Court nominee to now trying to force through legislation. All while having a base that seems united, more than anything else, by decisions that upset democrats/liberals/profressives. It's shocking in its immaturity and callousness.
I don't know how we fix this country.
BassForever
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Honestly in a vacuum Rush's comment is 100% correct and we've seen plenty of people on this very website whip themselves into a very unhealthy frenzy over every little news story. In context of course he's the last person on the planet who should be making that argument.
Black Mamba
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I don't care what diehard Trump supporters think.
Stop telling me about it, New York Times.
Stop telling me about it, New York Times.
Exactly. They'll just parrot whatever they heard from Rush Limbaugh or on Fox News, like they always do.
ebullientprism
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I am genuinely curious if there is any going back? Is the divide between the 40% of Trump supporters and the other 60% permanent?
Trump getting impeached with further that divide. Him staying in power will do the same.
And the media will do their best to make sure any sort of neutrality is never reached.
Short of a 9/11 type of attack which unites everyone for a while, you guys are sorta fucked.
Trump getting impeached with further that divide. Him staying in power will do the same.
And the media will do their best to make sure any sort of neutrality is never reached.
Short of a 9/11 type of attack which unites everyone for a while, you guys are sorta fucked.
polyh3dron
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Oh they definitely understand nuance in specific, controlled instances where they find it to benefit them.
EatinOlives
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Because they don't pay attention to Trump or bother to become informed about what he's doing. Their entire knowledge of the political landscape is acquired through extremely filtered far-right sources that carefully cull and color any information to paint a specific narrative, so what little they know has already been pre-chewed and fed for them. They don't bother to listen to the facts and make up their own mind through logic and deduction.
What was that? 0_o
SporeCrawler
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40% of the country and much more reliable voters compared to liberals...
ryutaro's mama
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I love how they have dropped the charade of calling them Republicans and rather "Trump Supporters" in order to keep the separation in place...even though they are virtually aligned on everything.
The othering of Trump supporters is deliberate.
The othering of Trump supporters is deliberate.
polyh3dron
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Yep. I text back and forth with this guy I know who is an unconditional trump supporter and try to get through to him when shit like the Comey firing happens, and he needed to wait until the right wing news outlets could figure out their rationale and tell it to him before engaging in a debate with me over it.
Unknown One
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Trump supporters don't even think. They just repeat what Conservative media told them.
Literal dumbasses.
Literal dumbasses.
This people have been dragging the country down for decades. Civil Rights was the last huge victory against them, but then Reagan, Bush, and this orange fuckstick set us back some more years. We just have to get through flaming hoop of Automation and then we should be able to shut these fuckers down with a few more presidencies.
plagiarize
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So glad to see lots of people over giving a shit about what Trump supporters think.
So often when a report comes out, or he has a new embarrassing quote, or whatever, someone rushes to post something like 'his supporters aren't going to be swayed by this'.
No shit. We know it. Everyone knows it.
If they leave the fold, they will do so on their own accord and we can't drag them out. This drip drip drip will get through to a lot of them, but it's going to take a long time.
So often when a report comes out, or he has a new embarrassing quote, or whatever, someone rushes to post something like 'his supporters aren't going to be swayed by this'.
No shit. We know it. Everyone knows it.
If they leave the fold, they will do so on their own accord and we can't drag them out. This drip drip drip will get through to a lot of them, but it's going to take a long time.
I find that's usually when they've been told that nuance. I haven't come across it as much in the wild, so to say.
plagiarize
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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
This is because dummies don't understand that the problem isn't Comey specifically its firing the guy who is in charge of investigating you because you don't want him to find anything.
Fallout-NL
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I live in Europe and even I have trouble coping with what they think. It's so disturbing that it sometimes makes me question my own sanity.
plagiarize
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Well, it's also because he hasn't shown 'loyalty' and embarrassed Trump over the wiretapping. And it's also in part I think because Trump is jealous of the status and respect Comey was being treated with.
Darryl M R
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The same supporters that are in fear every day that they might lose their health care but would vote for Trump again?
And even if they did, they wouldn't care because they've been told that this Russian Investigation is nothing more than a political witch hunt.
BrutishMrFish
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The difference being that the Republicans' reactions in a fair election were motivated by racism, and the Democrats' reactions are motivated by an actively unfolding scandal.
It's time Democrats stop wringing their hands over how they should reach out to these people who clearly can't be reached.
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