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Oblivion and the Elder Scrolls World
- Thread starter Hitler Stole My Potato
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Optimistic
Member
Oh this is absolutely hilarious. akascream is having a cry over absolutely nothing. The warp thing is a great feature and as it's optional, there is now ay anyone could possibly whinge about it.
Project Midway
Member
Nice thread, thanks Hitler!
He should get a Congressional Medal of Doucheness or something. :lolRamirez said:
Mike Works
Member
Maybe we'll get lucky and a piano will fall on your head and, through your final earthly request, your family will be forced to carry your coffin from the funeral home to the cemetary instead of using one of those insouciant warp hearses.akascream said:
Teknopathetic
Member
What, you didn't pay attention to the HUNDREDS of little books lying around?
MaddenNFL64
Member
Yep, the back story is very fleshed out. Sad thing is, I knew most of the info Hitler Stole My Potato wrote. 
Actually, maybe I should be proud?
Nah.
Anyway, since this game begins at the end of the 3rd era (Uriel Septim VII dies at the beginning), the death of Dagoth Ur, Sotha Sil, and Almalexia (except Vivec, unless you killed him for his soul ), are still pretty fresh, even if no one on Morrowind believed the Tribunal were dead . Hopefully we'll get alot of references in books, and discussion from the locals on that stuff.
Actually, maybe I should be proud?
Nah.
Anyway, since this game begins at the end of the 3rd era (Uriel Septim VII dies at the beginning), the death of Dagoth Ur, Sotha Sil, and Almalexia (except Vivec, unless you killed him for his soul
), are still pretty fresh, even if no one on Morrowind believed the Tribunal were dead . Hopefully we'll get alot of references in books, and discussion from the locals on that stuff.Spider_Jerusalem
Member
Hitler Stole My Potato said:
So, no PS3 version?
Discharger
Member
Spider_Jerusalem said:
The way that Bethesda has been answering questions regarding this makes me think they are seriously considering making a port for PS3 at a later date, but it isn't in the cards right now. That said, there's no way I would wait for a PS3 version, so it doesn't concern me too much.
I also cannot understand akascream's dislike of the fast travel feature -- as others have said, it was in the first 2 games and you don't need to use it if you don't want to. I loved Morrowind, and when I had to walk all the way across a continent, I did - that said, I would have much rather spent time actually exploring ruins or fighting monsters than walking the same path back and forth over and over again. When I want to explore somewhere, I will. If I just want to get to another town to complete a quest, it's great to have the option. I don't really see how anyone could be angry about that. Hell, if he's angry about how weaksauce this new travel option is, he must hate the new journal system that organizes it logically so that you can easily navigate it to find quests because it's not as "real" as the system from Morrowind where you had to read back though dozens and dozens of pages to find the appropriate entries if you didn't complete a quest right away.
Anyway, that's enough of that. Thanks for the post Hitler Stole My Potato -- I'm going to read through all the backstory at work
Optimistic
Member
Teknopathetic said:
Who would? They're all so boring. :lol
They're already hyping it as "The Best RPG Ever Made"? Oh, please... look at what happened with Fable.
EDIT: Not that the game doesn't look nice, or anything. It looks really good, and it sounds good, especially the part about cutting back on the whole wandering around aimlessly that really turns me off to these kinds of games. It's just, I'm sick of hearing pie in the sky claims all the time.
EDIT: Not that the game doesn't look nice, or anything. It looks really good, and it sounds good, especially the part about cutting back on the whole wandering around aimlessly that really turns me off to these kinds of games. It's just, I'm sick of hearing pie in the sky claims all the time.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
very nice viral marketing effort! BRAVO!
Nameless
Member
Between the Mage's Guilds' teleporters, those bug things you could ride(played the game for 80+hours and don't remember what they're called) the boat guides, and the mark/recall spells one could easily do what they ahd to do in Morrowind without taking extremely long hikes.
Thats not to say the game didn't promote exploration, nothing could possibly be further from the truth. But when a quests calls for you to travel half way across the map, you really don't want to have to make a 40minute round trip. But exploring the world was the best part of Morrowind, for those like me, who outside of quests just loved to explore the worlds looking for caverns, daedra shrines etc.. etc.. there was more than enough room for exploration, and I expect Oblivion to be similar.
Thats not to say the game didn't promote exploration, nothing could possibly be further from the truth. But when a quests calls for you to travel half way across the map, you really don't want to have to make a 40minute round trip. But exploring the world was the best part of Morrowind, for those like me, who outside of quests just loved to explore the worlds looking for caverns, daedra shrines etc.. etc.. there was more than enough room for exploration, and I expect Oblivion to be similar.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
akascream said:
If their history means anything I am sure you will be able to travel by foot if you want to; and I heard their will be horses as well. Daggerfall and Arena had this option as well, but of course both of those games weren't as detailed as Morrowind...
Blackace said:
Yeah, I just hate having the option to warp. Being very deep in some dank dungeon loses it's charm and sense of danger if at any moment I can just star trek my ass out of there. And if I am in enough trouble, I know I will...instead of hunkering down. Some of it is difficulty, and some of it is a timesink/tedium, but without the lows, you don't get the highs. You just lose the scope of your game completely when you introduce shortcuts, whether the most disciplined of players can ignore that they exist or not. And it's disheartening to see more and more developers really cheapen the whole experience.
At the very least there should be an option when you create your character that allows you to completely disable this stuff. I can't imagine it would be that difficult to implement.
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
Wow, great post HSMP. Thanks!
Teknopathetic
Member
yeah, aka, I really doubt you can warp out of dungeons.
akascream said:
Teleportation in dungeons would suck...though a transport system that worked more like what Daggerfall had would be ideal IMO...(when out in wilderness, you can choose to traverse distances automatically, though not without time flying by in the background...allowing the gamer to also choose more dangerous (and faster) routes and travel/camping methods before they go
Hitler Stole My Potato
Banned
djtiesto said:
No one at Bethesda said that this will be "the best RPG eva", that was a quote taken from Daily Game's hands on preview. Big difference.
Diomedeskun
Member
Reading about Tamriel and rereading the Daggerfall books has put me in a mood for The Elder Scrolls games. The Real Berenziah is an awesome read. I spent more time on the Daggerfall demo than on many full games, but I never actaully got the full version. I guess I'll have to play some Morrowind.
Do The Mario
Unconfirmed Member
This is GOTY!!!
I just hope the Bug testing is Fucking A grade, and that you can download the add on's.
I just hope the Bug testing is Fucking A grade, and that you can download the add on's.
akascream said:
You realise your bitching is akin to hating a sports car because it includes a CD player, and you hate the fact that you can't control yourself you have to turn it on, and thus can't savour the sound of the engine while driving... right?
Go end yourself. Please.
Do The Mario
Unconfirmed Member
I also must give props to the updated skill development system, I am playing morrowind again on Xbox right now and there are always skills you dont use that you picked. My character was originally going to be more a Fighter/Theif but has ended up as a charismatic Knight of the Imperial Legion (who has the best quests in the game IMO).
You generally dont know what skills you will happen to need at the character creation screen.
You generally dont know what skills you will happen to need at the character creation screen.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Razoric said:
Game, set, match, folks.
For heaven's sake, aka; was the time spent by Wizardry 1 calculating the effects of moves a golden era for you or something? Does slamming WoW as beneath you grant you a +5 to your 1337ness Skill? It's just a damn horse or a damn teleport; you'd think a dude in rockin' plate mail who's got a serious rep from saving a dozen towns from God-knows-what horrors could afford a freaking beast of burden or ask an adept to get him from place to place to keep doing that. Jeez...
Anyways; thanks HSMP for the deep article. I love the cave pics; very realistic designwork on their part to make them look like a natural limestone cavern.
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
thats freakin AWESOME..
thanks, its a great thread indeed..
looking forward for this game, I didn't get to finish ESIII, but I really loved it (until I tried one freakin code that ruined the game for me)
i'm gonna buy this at day one.
I might even pre-order it
thanks, its a great thread indeed..
looking forward for this game, I didn't get to finish ESIII, but I really loved it (until I tried one freakin code that ruined the game for me)
i'm gonna buy this at day one.
I might even pre-order it
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
EmSeta said:
Cliffracers are indigenous to Vvardenfell, and are not found in Cyrodiil. In other words, there are no cliffracers in Oblivion.
wandering goat
Member
You can also download some handy mods including making the cliff racers go away. I didn't find out about that though until I was practically done with the game though. Anyway, I really don't want to have to buy an XBox 360 as I feel like having three consoles is just a waste of money/time, but damn I want this game after reading this thread. I'm not planning on updating my computer any time soon either (I don't play much PC games anyway and I have a laptop right now) so this looks to be the only choice unless they decide to release it for PS3 as well. Aghhh, it's eating me up already.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
Kurashima said:
A PS3 version will be released. Its inevitable. To stop it from eating you up inside think of all the money you will save by waiting a few months.
One of the things I really wanted to ask the executive producer at the show about (but couldn't cause some other guys were holding him up) was about the journal system and how it would be better than Morrowinds.
From what I breifly saw during the demo, it defintely was different. But I wanted to know for sure that there would be a better index of things based on both quests and time instead of just alphabetical order like Morrowind.
From what I breifly saw during the demo, it defintely was different. But I wanted to know for sure that there would be a better index of things based on both quests and time instead of just alphabetical order like Morrowind.
Do The Mario
Unconfirmed Member
Ark-AMN said:
I would love it if there was a section for each faction you are a member of.