minus_273 said:=
mark my words this will be an iconic image of the victory of the proletariat. this is our generations tank man. OWS is our generations berlin wall!
akira28 said:So are we still distracted from the fact that his head was probably opened up by a police baton? For basically embarrassing a police officer in public?
Update (2:28 p.m. EST): The cordon around the park has eased. Reports on Twitter say police are allowing people out, and Bruner confirms via text. New York Daily News tweets that the injured cop "was cut on hand by a thrown glass object during #OWS #N17 protests in NYC." As for the injured protester, rumor on the ground is that he wasn't hit by a baton, as first thought, but that he fell when police arrested him forcefully. He had reportedly been kicking barricades earlier.
But they also don't always have as much water to work with.daycru said:Wrestlers take aspirin to thin the blood before they cut their heads in order to make it more gruesome.
Once again I don't think it was deliberate in any way.Doubt that guy was trying to pay homage to the Nature Boy.
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:No, I'm saying it may have occurred when he fell or was on the ground.
eznark said:According to The Atlantic:
Alucrid said:When the cops catch you and then you resist arrest, then what?
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:No, I'm saying it may have occurred when he fell or was on the ground.
minus_273 said:=
mark my words this will be an iconic image of the victory of the proletariat. this is our generations tank man. OWS is our generations berlin wall!
Why would a cop carry a razor? Oh the cop earlier probably cut himself with his razormarrec said:I think we can apply Occam's Razor here and say that he was hit with a baton. It's a completely reasonable assumption considering the previous actions of the police today. Also, in other pictures, I cannot see other people with hair that is wet. It looks like it's all blood.
Again, head wounds bleed a lot.
Well, there you go.
eznark said:According to The Atlantic:
Which is what I'm saying and that combined with the elements (you can see the ground is wet) and his own natural body fluids made it seem far more horrific.marrec said:Well, there you go.
What about the report from the Atlantic that was just posted?akira28 said:You know police still like to put people in the back of a squad car, handcuffed and unstrapped, and give them a 'brake job', right? They're also very adept at helping people when they "fall". They may have hit him with a stick, or maybe he tripped? I guess we won't know until someone with video comes forward.
kame-sennin said:First hand account of the raid:
Me: "You understand this is an appeal right? And legally you have to uphold the latest ruling, which says let us in. Right now you're in contempt of court."
Security: "You'll be let back in soon enough and look, you'll have a nice clean park."
Me: "Yeah a little too clean. We're missing a few things."
Bloomberg and the NYPD's strategy seemed to be ignore the legality until the legality is in their favor. They didn't want to have to let us back in immediately because it would mean we could have our tents and structures. Around 5 pm the ruling came in and we lost and they announced we'd be let back in with many caveats. There
http://danielmwolff.blogspot.com/2011/11/on-november-15th.html
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:Which is what I'm saying and that combined with the elements (you can see the ground is wet) and his own natural body fluids made it seem far more horrific.
What about the report from the Atlantic that was just posted?
richiek said:Here's the video of the bloodied demonstrator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNsG1szQPqo&feature=youtu.be
minus_273 said:corporate media comes in to fill in the story and protect the police state. atlantic media company.
I'd like to confirm the theory myself so I hope so.marrec said:I'm sure there is probably some shaky video of the dude being arrested somewhere. I have no problem believeing the injury was sustained whilst he was struggling mightily to get away from the cop he just provoked.
Hex said:Yeah, with that shit I am out of here.
The stupidity factor is just far too deep in here.
Sadly it's after the fact.richiek said:Here's the video of the bloodied demonstrator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNsG1szQPqo&feature=youtu.be
Fenderputty said:Someone forgot their sarcasm detector today.
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:I'd like to confirm the theory myself so I hope so.
I never thought I could cite to Ric Flair and The Great Muta in a legal argument on an injury. lol
ClovingSteam said:The problem is he hasn't stated where he truly stands.
ClovingSteam said:The problem is he hasn't stated where he truly stands. I figured it was sarcasm a few posts ago but now I'm not sure.
eznark said:ARE YOU NOW OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A SUPPORTER OF THE 1%
marrec said:Many witnesses are saying it was done when he was put on the ground. So no Baton action it seems.
That'll teach him to kick barricades.
ClovingSteam said:No but I did support the Packers in the Super Bowl. Does that count?
marrec said:Many witnesses are saying it was done when he was put on the ground. So no Baton action it seems.
That'll teach him to kick barricades.
minus_273 said:you havent clearly stated where you stand. are you part of the 99% or the 1%?
.GqueB. said:I just now realized how close I am to Union Square. I should get down there and snap some pics... or try to anyway.
minus_273 said:I just want to say that this is my favorite gaf thread. I am really happy the OWS movement exists.
The most beautiful thing about this thread is the bunch of angry/lazy/rich hippies in a fishbowl who think they are actually making a difference in the world. the futile rants and frustration as you encounter the real world is hilarious. keep posting, please!
minus_273 said:i really dont think anyone cares about upper middle class radical squatters when there is actual news. if i didnt come into this thread i wouldnt have know about oakland and i only come in here for the entertainment value (people getting angry on the internet!! raaage!)
i think the events in syria and the EU are far more important and the only people who care are the far and left right who seem to feed off each other.
someone said that if the movement is successful (lol) i should thank them. could someone tell me what the movement is actually about because to be this is as funny as the tea party except they didnt smell as bad (i went past one of the local sqatter camps in my city recently) and werent as violent.
to real people with jobs, ows is just the latest incarnation of the anti war/anti globalism/etc generic protester with no message that wants to smash things and burn cars.
Dude Abides said:It wasn't raining very hard at all here today.
ClovingSteam said:I support the ideals of the OWS crowd but will not support violence, nor the idea that we should put a limit on how much individuals can make. I do believe something must be done legislatively and that the top earners are not paying their fair share.
Now, your turn.
I have to make changes to this Core Detail Aid so we can route to clean tomorrow. Its up in editorial so Im waiting for it to get back to me.minus_273 said:why arent you part of the direction action against the bourgeois?
Dude Abides said:His tag suggests he's a devotee of the cult of Rand. That would be consistent with his trolling. I don't think you need to inquire further.
ClovingSteam said:I support the ideals of the OWS crowd but will not support violence, nor the idea that we should put a limit on how much individuals can make. I do believe something must be done legislatively and that the top earners are not paying their fair share.
Now, your turn.
edit 2: 2:07 PM, the police are now allowing people back in and out of the park. It is still unclear why the police action happened. There was a man beaten severely by the police with blood in his hair and face, his items confiscated (I believe he was arrested but there are conflicting reports)
edit 3: 2:24 PM, The man described earlier, possibly nicknamed "Romania," was reportedly kicking/messing with the barricades, before being tackled from behind by police and beaten severely. There are reports of another person, a woman, being beaten in the face, and two believed undercover cops have been chased out. A CNN Spanish correspondent claims to have been turned away even after showing the police his press credentials (I wrote earlier that he said they told him "go practice your freedom of speech somewhere else," but I believe now thanks to parkinsg that this was not a quote from a police officer, but the reporter being facetious. Sorry for the misunderstanding)
edit 4: 2:30 PM, A man caught one of the undercovers on video, should be on youtube shortly. This is his face: http://i.imgur.com/1q7j3.png
edit 5: 3:00 PM, An estimated 1,000+ (looks much larger now) protestors are marching down Broadway toward Union Square to meet up with other protestors. Many people in traffic and storefronts are showing support for the marchers
edit 6: 3:08 PM, "Romania" reportedly has a skull fracture, and there are reports of excessive police violence against a 50-something-year-old MEDIC, as well as others
edit 7: 3:40 PM, Union Square is fucking PACKED. Just a sea of heads.
minus_273 said:I think i have clearly posted the position I support. income cap. Every man will be a king.
Angry Fork said:OH NO WW3 is going to break out for tipping off a cops hat.
Yea this is what I'm talking about. This mentality is all within the police state as well which is why I have little sympathy for them.
ClovingSteam said:So instead of debating the issues you just are looking to troll. Hmm, you should run for office as a Republican. You'd fit right in.
You can do better than that. I mean it's reddit.richiek said:http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/mfxqi/police_have_blocked_the_entrances_and_exits_to/
Correct.Yeah, it's just like blading in pro wrestling, totally harmless. The rain just makes it look worse than it really is.
3:36 PMchristinaboyleThe man injured by police was photographed by a colleague kicking police barriers and wearing a mask shortly before the incident #ows
talisayNon said:Hilarious CUNY students bitching about tuition raises. Wonder how the NYU students feel. Must be so awkward
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
That sounds like the NY POST. Especially if it had a shitty pun.BenjaminBirdie said:I'd recommend avoiding Daily News coverage. I believe they (or was it the Post?) consider OWS a (LITERAL) affront to the city's "DIGNITY".
Yup.
Dignity.
captmcblack said:Why is that so odd? Many CUNY students are/were poor immigrants and minorities looking for an affordable quality education (like me on all counts, for example). Mind you, while CUNY is the best ticket in town for affordable quality education, constant tuition hikes kind of fuck the game up on the "affordable" part, especially when those people who are trying to get educated aren't getting higher wages to cover that cost - or more jobs to try to earn that extra cost.
It also fucks the game up when the state tries to slash budgets for CUNY and SUNY, meaning that the quality of the education decreases (less teachers, less supplies, etc).
NYU kids - and pretty much every college kid in the city - should be salty about tuition hikes too. They're especially fucked, since they have to finance their educations with crazy loans or big-ass money.
Damn that's cheap. I mean seriously you be that idiot women from MTV's True Life I Drink To Much who couldn't even hold down a part time job at a strip club well and still afford that. That said there is nothing wrong with low cost college. I mean it's how immigrants and poorer Americans have helped to better themselves for decades.talisayNon said:2500 and if you're poor you're eligible for financial aid. *tiniest violin gif*
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:That sounds like the NY POST. Especially if it had a shitty pun.
The thing is though that it gels with what the Atlantic said stating that the kid feel on the ground and was not hit and kicking barriers. The detail is more that he was wearing a mask.
talisayNon said:2500 and if you're poor you're eligible for financial aid. *tiniest violin gif*