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October 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes November 10th

2thepoint

Junior Member
Well, Microsoft not releasing PR for Halo 5 is very telling in itself.

They're usually screaming from the hills with success, so this seems weird - because, Halo 5 was successful....I think.

But otherwise, they are probably saving PR for NPD to detract from a humiliating PS4 Oct win in the face of Halo 5.

That thread will be nuclear if that happens, which seems ever more likely by the day.
 
If you don't have anything good to say then don't say anything at all...


Well, since I always love to play the PR Guessing game, I would assume they would have said this, OR I assume they will. There are plenty of good things to say!!




"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."
 

Boke1879

Member
I'm honestly surprised we've heard nothing on Halo sales. I expected it to do well and it seems like everyone on my friends list is playing; more so than I've ever seen for a new game launch. Puzzling. I'll be disappointed if it did poorly, as I'm a big fan.

The game didn't sell bad I'm sure. Just probably nothing worth having PR about if it didn't do on par with the previous entries in the series.
 
Well, since I always love to play the PR Guessing game, I would assume they would have said this, OR I assume they will. There are plenty of good things to say!!




"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."
Well done, 9/10.
 

A.J.

Banned
I'm really curious to see what kind of legs Halo 5 has. I've only heard negative word of mouth walking around my campus.
 

t_wilson01

Member
Well, since I always love to play the PR Guessing game, I would assume they would have said this, OR I assume they will. There are plenty of good things to say!!




"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."
Could have fooled me into thinking that was a genuine PR release.
 

cakely

Member
Well, since I always love to play the PR Guessing game, I would assume they would have said this, OR I assume they will. There are plenty of good things to say!!




"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."

Well, I'm convinced. Hire this man!

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Boke1879

Member
Well, since I always love to play the PR Guessing game, I would assume they would have said this, OR I assume they will. There are plenty of good things to say!!




"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."

If it's even remotely close to this.
 

Purest 78

Member
Well, since I always love to play the PR Guessing game, I would assume they would have said this, OR I assume they will. There are plenty of good things to say!!




"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."

Perfect
 

Boke1879

Member
I'm really curious to see what kind of legs Halo 5 has. I've only heard negative word of mouth walking around my campus.

Tough to speculate. On Friday we got COD coming out and then on the 17th we got Battlefront and we still have a large pool of people playing Destiny. Did Rainbow 6 get delayed?
 

Fat4all

Banned
Tough to speculate. On Friday we got COD coming out and then on the 17th we got Battlefront and we still have a large pool of people playing Destiny. Did Rainbow 6 get delayed?

My local GS manager said they are expecting around 500 reserves by pre-midnight, with well over 100 people showing up for the Blops 3 midnight launch.

I'm not too interested in Blops 3, but I've been hearing a lot of chatter from my friends, they seem pretty stoked for it.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
My local GS manager said they are expecting around 500 reserves by pre-midnight, with well over 100 people showing up for the Blops 3 midnight launch.

I'm not too interested in Blops 3, but I've been hearing a lot of chatter from my friends, they seem pretty stoked for it.

I have no interest in it at all but the game is definitely going to well.

The last gen version being so bare bones should definitely help people transition to PS4/XB1.
 

Fat4all

Banned
I have no interest in it at all but the game is definitely going to well.

The last gen version being so bare bones should definitely help people transition to PS4/XB1.

Honestly, last gen version not including the co-op campaign isn't really that big of a deal-breaker than I would of though. It includes both the new revamped Zombies campaign and the multiplayer stuff, that may be enough for a lot of people.
 

Boke1879

Member
My local GS manager said they are expecting around 500 reserves by pre-midnight, with well over 100 people showing up for the Blops 3 midnight launch.

I'm not too interested in Blops 3, but I've been hearing a lot of chatter from my friends, they seem pretty stoked for it.

I bought Ghosts and was underwhelmed. Always was a fan of the Black Ops series. This game looks really good. Can't wait.
 
The difference in sales between current gen and last gen versions of Blops 3 should be pretty big this time around. I think the last gen version of Advanced Warfare still performed moderately well last year.

I've never played CoD and I am not going to start but I have definitely seen a more positive response to Blops 3 compared to the last few CoDs.
 

Fat4all

Banned
I bought Ghosts and was underwhelmed. Always was a fan of the Black Ops series. This game looks really good. Can't wait.

I've only ever been a fan of good CoD campaigns. I enjoyed CoD 2, MW 1, Blops 1.

I haven't played Blops 2, but if I start hearing Blops 3 campaign is well made/written, I may pick up both Blops 2 & 3 just to play through.

It'd be nice to have to play zombies with friends, as well.
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."

Pretty good.
 

Conduit

Banned
Well, since I always love to play the PR Guessing game, I would assume they would have said this, OR I assume they will. There are plenty of good things to say!!




"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."

Fair enough. Nice PR. :D
 

Rymuth

Member
"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."
That's gold, Jerry! Gold!
You'd think they'd announce sommit about Halo, though.

It's only THE most important franchise for them.
FTFY
 

RibMan

Member
Unless I'm off my rocker, a -conservative- estimate would have the PS4 (and probably XB1) north of 2m units sold each between Nov and Dec on NPD alone...

You're likely right on this. I don't know how much the PS4 is going to do in Nov and Dec NPD, but my assumption is that it won't be less than 300k.
 

Ombala

Member
Well, since I always love to play the PR Guessing game, I would assume they would have said this, OR I assume they will. There are plenty of good things to say!!




"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."
Someone is swearing at MS because he/she has to rewrite their PR statement..

BTW how did Titanfall and Destiny sell their first month according to NPD?
 
You'd think they'd announce sommit about Halo, though.

It's only one of their most important franchises.

Sure, I mean, it's odd that they haven't but at the same time perhaps that's part of the new company policy? No more sales announcements for this gen at all (hw, sw). Just game announcements and wait until next gen.
 

Javin98

Banned
So no Halo 5 PR, huh? I know the software sales are most likely significantly lower than the few previous entries, but I was expecting at least something like "The XB1 was the best selling console during Halo week". No PR at all is saying quite a lot.

"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."
You're pretty good.
 

Tratorn

Member
Maybe it was posted already somewhere in this thread before, but does someone have the NPD sales (and the tracked duration) of the previous Halo Games?
 

wapplew

Member
As long as Spencer happy with the numbers, we shouldn't care that much.
I'm sure micro transaction will make up or exceed usual Halo profit for MS.
 
As long as Spencer happy with the numbers, we shouldn't care that much.
I'm sure micro transaction will make up or exceed usual Halo profit for MS.

Yes because Spencer is gonna come right out and say Halo 5's sales were disappointing. That would totally go over fine with investors and his superiors at MS.
 

allan-bh

Member
Maybe it was posted already somewhere in this thread before, but does someone have the NPD sales (and the tracked duration) of the previous Halo Games?

Halo CE- 357k (17 days)
Halo 2- ~3.3m (19 days)
Halo 3- ~3.3m (12 days)
Halo Reach- ~3.3m (19 days)
Halo 4- ~3.3m (19 days) [Incl. Bundle]
Halo 5- ? (5 days)


Halo 3: ODST- 1.52m (12 days)
Halo CE Anniv.- ~500k (12 days)
Halo MCC- ~660k (19 days)
 
As long as Spencer happy with the numbers, we shouldn't care that much.
I'm sure micro transaction will make up or exceed usual Halo profit for MS.

Wow. You expect Spencer to say otherwise on Twitter ?

Halo CE- 357k (17 days)
Halo 2- ~3.3m (19 days)
Halo 3- ~3.3m (12 days)
Halo Reach- ~3.3m (19 days)
Halo 4- ~3.3m (19 days) [Incl. Bundle]
Halo 5- ? (5 days)


Halo 3: ODST- 1.52m (12 days)
Halo CE Anniv.- ~500k (12 days)
Halo MCC- ~660k (19 days)

So if it undewhelms, days on sale will be the new digital sale.
 

Tratorn

Member
Halo CE- 357k (17 days)
Halo 2- ~3.3m (19 days)
Halo 3- ~3.3m (12 days)
Halo Reach- ~3.3m (19 days)
Halo 4- ~3.3m (19 days) [Incl. Bundle]
Halo 5- ? (5 days)


Halo 3: ODST- 1.52m (12 days)
Halo CE Anniv.- ~500k (12 days)
Halo MCC- ~660k (19 days)

Thanks!
Sadly there is no other game in the series with so few days. But well, the most sales should be from preorders and first week anyways.

I knew that before, but it's still pretty funny to see Halo 2-4 and Reach selling practically the same amount of copys in their first month.
 

Mrbob

Member
Crazy how all the previous sequels sold basically the same in the first 12 to 20 days despite user base differences. Guess Obliterator is on the money in the UK sales thread.
 

Chris1

Member
Yes because Spencer is gonna come right out and say Halo 5's sales were disappointing. That would totally go over fine with investors and his superiors at MS.

Yea I wouldn't read too much into that tweet lol, he's never going to come out and say a game sold poorly let alone one that's the consoles flagship game. UK sales were surprisingly low, I'm curious to see how the game fares in US now.
 

allan-bh

Member
I knew that before, but it's still pretty funny to see Halo 2-4 and Reach selling practically the same amount of copys in their first month.

Yeah, pretty steady, the X360 installed base growth after Halo 3 doesn't changed the picture, franchise hit their maximum potential.
 
As long as Spencer happy with the numbers, we shouldn't care that much.
I'm sure micro transaction will make up or exceed usual Halo profit for MS.

We don't have MS sales expectations on hand but surely anything below 1.5million has to be considered disappointing especially looking at the Halo numbers above.

The install base argument won't fly either seeing as XB1 is doing better than the 360 at the same point in time.

Of course for an exclusive game the sales are fantastic but context is key.
 
I don't think Halo 5 moved a lot of consoles or sold a lot. I think MS will do a big marketing push this holiday when Forge and BTB launch. Halo 5 marketing hasn't been nearly as aggressive as former halo's, even ODST.
 

allan-bh

Member
It's interesting that Black Ops III launch is very close, but Fallout 4 remains ahead in Amazon's hourly.

Right now:

01) PS4 Fallout 4
02) XBO Fallout 4
03) PS4 Black Ops 3
04) XBO Black Ops 3

In october:

05) PS4 Fallout 4
06) XBO Fallout 4
15) XBO Black Ops 3
17) PS4 Black Ops 3


In the other hand, PS4 Black Ops bundle is doing much better than XBO Fallout 4 bundle.
 

Tubie

Member
Yea Fallout 4 will sell incredibly well. I think it will be right up there with CoD and Battlefront on best selling games of the year.
 

Alo0oy

Banned
It's interesting that Black Ops III launch is very close, but Fallout 4 remains ahead in Amazon's hourly.

Right now:

01) PS4 Fallout 4
02) XBO Fallout 4
03) PS4 Black Ops 3
04) XBO Black Ops 3

In october:

05) PS4 Fallout 4
06) XBO Fallout 4
15) XBO Black Ops 3
17) PS4 Black Ops 3


In the other hand, PS4 Black Ops bundle is doing much better than XBO Fallout 4 bundle.

Amazon software sales are very unreliable, you see games like Bloodborne or Bayonetta hang with the big sellers on Amazon even when they don't sell anywhere near them.

Black Ops will still vastly outsell Fallout, FO4 will do better than FO3 of course, but it will be closer to FO3 than Blops imo. Maybe ~2 million (NPD debut month).
 
Well with no PR, Sony won October. As people have said, MS will be saving their damage control for their NPD PR to ease the flames and add in an extra week or so of Halo stats to help boost the numbers further. And 3rdamention's "PR" might as well be a preview of the real thing.

October thread is going to be a bloodbath if all that is true.
 
"The end of October, we celebrated the launch of the highly anticipated, best selling franchise Halo 5, with you our fans. Halo 5 debuted with the biggest launch of any Xbox Exclusive game in the history of the Xbox One. XBL users showed continued growth as they logged more minutes online with Halo 5 than any other Xbox Game. The Halo Limited Edition Bundle was the highest selling Xbox system for the month of October. But, we are not done. This Holiday Season, we will continue to release more titles from the Greatest Lineup in Xbox History, proving once again, the Xbox One is the "best place to play" this Holiday."
Nice. But I'm sure they would add the exclusive Tomb Raider, COD, Fallout and Battlefront.
 
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